Zion means more to a small market team than he does to us, because of the money he will bring to a team and I think those teams would be interested in offering assets for that pick. We should AT A MINIMUM look at what those assets are. For us, you have to ask is Zion better than our swapped pick plus whatever asset a team is willing to part with? That could mean swapped pick and a trade or it could mean an additional unprotected pick. Is Zion better then the 2nd -5th pick this year AND and unprotected lotto pick next year (especially if we're trading picks with a west coast team like Phoenix or Memphis? I dont think so. Even for the East coast teams i dont see any team thats going to become a playoff team because they drafted Zion.

I'm just saying we should do our due diligence.

Killa4luv wrote:1. I dont want to get all into evaluating Zion but i do not see him as a generational talent, he is a generational athelete, but he is no Lebron James.

Zion means more to a small market team than he does to us, because of the money he will bring to a team and I think those teams would be interested in offering assets for that pick. We should AT A MINIMUM look at what those assets are. For us, you have to ask is Zion better than our swapped pick plus whatever asset a team is willing to part with? That could mean swapped pick and a trade or it could mean an additional unprotected pick. Is Zion better then the 2nd -5th pick this year AND and unprotected lotto pick next year (especially if we're trading picks with a west coast team like Phoenix or Memphis? I dont think so. Even for the East coast teams i dont see any team thats going to become a playoff team because they drafted Zion.

I'm just saying we should do our due diligence.

I'm fine shopping it if it's 2 or below, but if it's number 1, keep it! Drafting zion would hopefully make it easier to recruit the top FA's this summer, plus he fits a need for us (PF), plus he's nice insurance in case we luck out in free agency. The new draft odds are so messed up, it's too much of a gamble to trade Zion for an unprotected pick next year (because it could land anywhere). Could you imagine the backlash if we got the number 1 this year then traded away Zion, drafted a role player this year, and got the number 8 pick next year?

I agree though, about doing our homework and not getting caught up in the hype- I have no scouting skills, but I trust our scouts to make sure Zion is more than hype, and there aren't any better alternatives 2-5.

GustavBahler wrote:If Zion wasnt a two way player, I would agree about the "small market" comment. Doesnt need to be LeBron James to be an impact player. What I like about Zion, is that he isnt a one trick pony. Like that Williamson is going to Duke to learn how to be a part of an offense without dominating tbe ball.

Believe it would be a mistake to pass on using the number one pick, if its ours. We have plenty of first round picks in tbe coming years, plenty of cap space. Dont want mgmt to get too cute. If Zion is there, make the piick.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If Zion wasnt a two way player, I would agree about the "small market" comment. Doesnt need to be LeBron James to be an impact player. What I like about Zion, is that he isnt a one trick pony. Like that Williamson is going to Duke to learn how to be a part of an offense without dominating tbe ball.

Believe it would be a mistake to pass on using the number one pick, if its ours. We have plenty of first round picks in tbe coming years, plenty of cap space. Dont want mgmt to get too cute. If Zion is there, make the piick.

Agreed. No need to shop it around.

We should always try to gauge the pickd value. But, realistically, what could we get that's of equal value? AD kinda makes sense, because he's arguably the best player in the league. But I agree with most of the forum. Zion is the real deal. I'd easily choose him over any package of nice players and lower value picks.

BigDaddyG wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:If Zion wasnt a two way player, I would agree about the "small market" comment. Doesnt need to be LeBron James to be an impact player. What I like about Zion, is that he isnt a one trick pony. Like that Williamson is going to Duke to learn how to be a part of an offense without dominating tbe ball.

Believe it would be a mistake to pass on using the number one pick, if its ours. We have plenty of first round picks in tbe coming years, plenty of cap space. Dont want mgmt to get too cute. If Zion is there, make the piick.

Agreed. No need to shop it around.

We should always try to gauge the pickd value. But, realistically, what could we get that's of equal value? AD kinda makes sense, because he's arguably the best player in the league. But I agree with most of the forum. Zion is the real deal. I'd easily choose him over any package of nice players and lower value picks.

Yeah, essentially, AD is all I would take for Zion. If we were to land Kawhi and AD this summer, I would be a very happy Knicks fan. Otherwise, I am happy for the pick.

If I’m trading the Knicks first this year (in a package) I want back franchise player type **** in return.

Killa4luv wrote:1. I dont want to get all into evaluating Zion but i do not see him as a generational talent, he is a generational athelete, but he is no Lebron James.

Zion means more to a small market team than he does to us, because of the money he will bring to a team and I think those teams would be interested in offering assets for that pick. We should AT A MINIMUM look at what those assets are. For us, you have to ask is Zion better than our swapped pick plus whatever asset a team is willing to part with? That could mean swapped pick and a trade or it could mean an additional unprotected pick. Is Zion better then the 2nd -5th pick this year AND and unprotected lotto pick next year (especially if we're trading picks with a west coast team like Phoenix or Memphis? I dont think so. Even for the East coast teams i dont see any team thats going to become a playoff team because they drafted Zion.

I'm just saying we should do our due diligence.

My fear is we pass and LOLKnicks stretches on for the next 20 years. If we get the Number 1 pick and trade him we better get Davis and Durant. I can live with that.