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2/8/2019  6:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2019  6:14 PM
Not sure if the Knicks were presented with the same offer Sixers got for Fultz.
Magic said to have reached out and told Frank was not available.
Interesting as it seems the Knicks are treating Frank like someone that is expendable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/elitesportsny.com/2019/02/08/new-york-knicks-rumors-shopped-frank-ntilikina-for-a-1st-round-pick/amp/

Hope the Knicks give Frank a chance but may not have minded two more picks for him.

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2/8/2019  6:30 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Not sure if the Knicks were presented with the same offer Sixers got for Fultz.
Magic said to have reached out and told Frank was not available.
Interesting as it seems the Knicks are treating Frank like someone that is expendable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/elitesportsny.com/2019/02/08/new-york-knicks-rumors-shopped-frank-ntilikina-for-a-1st-round-pick/amp/

Hope the Knicks give Frank a chance but may not have minded two more picks for him.


The magic probably weren't going to give up a 1st rounder for him. I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder, would be admitting defeat which is premature.
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2/8/2019  6:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2019  6:41 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Not sure if the Knicks were presented with the same offer Sixers got for Fultz.
Magic said to have reached out and told Frank was not available.
Interesting as it seems the Knicks are treating Frank like someone that is expendable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/elitesportsny.com/2019/02/08/new-york-knicks-rumors-shopped-frank-ntilikina-for-a-1st-round-pick/amp/

Hope the Knicks give Frank a chance but may not have minded two more picks for him.


The magic probably weren't going to give up a 1st rounder for him. I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder, would be admitting defeat which is premature.

As article states, they gave up a 1st and a 2nd for a kid that has probably been a bigger disappointment and is not even playing. May have hurt Knicks, Franks trade value, to have sat Frank.

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2/8/2019  6:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2019  6:49 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Not sure if the Knicks were presented with the same offer Sixers got for Fultz.
Magic said to have reached out and told Frank was not available.
Interesting as it seems the Knicks are treating Frank like someone that is expendable.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/elitesportsny.com/2019/02/08/new-york-knicks-rumors-shopped-frank-ntilikina-for-a-1st-round-pick/amp/

Hope the Knicks give Frank a chance but may not have minded two more picks for him.


The magic probably weren't going to give up a 1st rounder for him. I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder, would be admitting defeat which is premature.

As article states, they gave up a 1st and a 2nd for a kid that has probably been a bigger disappointment and is not even playing. May have hurt Knicks, Franks trade value, to have sat Frank.

Fultz has more value than Frank. Fultz's shot was completely broken probably due to thoracic outlet syndrome. Despite that he still shot better than Frank. Now that its repaired he theoretically has all the tools that made him a first overall pick. Remains to be seen whether he can do it, but Frank has no such excuse. Frank was picked 9th overall. He has been a disappointment, to put it mildly. Given that its irrational to think you are going to get multiple picks/young players greater in value than where he was drafted at.

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2/8/2019  7:03 PM
Depends on the value/potential of said first round pick.
Knicks value Frank. To what degree? Who knows. I think he gets a chance to play with Smith.
Philly freaking blew it with Fultz and then further lost in this trade. But look at how they are positioned.
Win some, lose some. Someone will harp on Mudiay costing two picks when we let him walk.
Thats progress folks!!! TRIER.
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2/8/2019  7:12 PM
Nalod wrote:Depends on the value/potential of said first round pick.
Knicks value Frank. To what degree? Who knows. I think he gets a chance to play with Smith.
Philly freaking blew it with Fultz and then further lost in this trade. But look at how they are positioned.
Win some, lose some. Someone will harp on Mudiay costing two picks when we let him walk.
Thats progress folks!!! TRIER.

Ture. Only way to build Franks value is by playing him. Just don't like the mixed signals. Still think he can get his shot right. But wont happen sitting on the bench.

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2/8/2019  8:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2019  8:19 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Nalod wrote:Depends on the value/potential of said first round pick.
Knicks value Frank. To what degree? Who knows. I think he gets a chance to play with Smith.
Philly freaking blew it with Fultz and then further lost in this trade. But look at how they are positioned.
Win some, lose some. Someone will harp on Mudiay costing two picks when we let him walk.
Thats progress folks!!! TRIER.

Ture. Only way to build Franks value is by playing him. Just don't like the mixed signals. Still think he can get his shot right. But wont happen sitting on the bench.


keep him as a draft day asset, or in any kind of trade for AD..

The more you play him, the worse he looks, especially in such a losing environment..

it's hilarious to hear FIZ talk with excitement of him playing next to DSJ as if mudiay, trier and burk weren't the same type of scoring pg

Why they continue to put him in the same situation hoping for different results

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2/8/2019  8:11 PM
Knicks were shopping him when they were looking to create cap space. Once they had it they no longer felt it was required to move him unless given a strong offer.
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2/8/2019  8:21 PM
Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him
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2/8/2019  9:03 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

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2/8/2019  9:23 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

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If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

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ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/
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2/8/2019  9:50 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

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2/8/2019  9:54 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Secondary ball handlers control the flow of the game in a structured offense? Draftexpress does have the goods. Worth your time checking some of this stuff out when you aren't too busy.
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2/9/2019  8:34 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Dude - you thought the Knicks could trade DSjr to Utah for Mitchell- where there was coverage of the fact that the Knicks reached out to Utah about a Mitchell for KP trade.

Maybe you could educate yourself a bit further before posting garbage.

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2/9/2019  8:48 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Knicks were shopping him when they were looking to create cap space. Once they had it they no longer felt it was required to move him unless given a strong offer.

This is my understanding of the situation...there is no doubt he was available at some point

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2/9/2019  11:08 AM
franco12 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Dude - you thought the Knicks could trade DSjr to Utah for Mitchell- where there was coverage of the fact that the Knicks reached out to Utah about a Mitchell for KP trade.

Maybe you could educate yourself a bit further before posting garbage.

So what? Why does Utah's refusal to trade for a heavy injury risk player with character issues preclude them from trading for a healthy player with character issues? There are people posting tweets comparing Dennis Smith Jr with Jordan with Magic. So do you think he is that good? And Utah wouldn't trade Mitchell for that?

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meloshouldgo wrote:
franco12 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Dude - you thought the Knicks could trade DSjr to Utah for Mitchell- where there was coverage of the fact that the Knicks reached out to Utah about a Mitchell for KP trade.

Maybe you could educate yourself a bit further before posting garbage.

So what? Why does Utah's refusal to trade for a heavy injury risk player with character issues preclude them from trading for a healthy player with character issues? There are people posting tweets comparing Dennis Smith Jr with Jordan with Magic. So do you think he is that good? And Utah wouldn't trade Mitchell for that?

The only person on this planet that thinks Utah giving up Mitchell in that scenario is you

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2/9/2019  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/9/2019  11:37 AM
martin wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
franco12 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Dude - you thought the Knicks could trade DSjr to Utah for Mitchell- where there was coverage of the fact that the Knicks reached out to Utah about a Mitchell for KP trade.

Maybe you could educate yourself a bit further before posting garbage.

So what? Why does Utah's refusal to trade for a heavy injury risk player with character issues preclude them from trading for a healthy player with character issues? There are people posting tweets comparing Dennis Smith Jr with Jordan with Magic. So do you think he is that good? And Utah wouldn't trade Mitchell for that?

The only person on this planet that thinks Utah giving up Mitchell in that scenario is you

Didn't suggest it had to be one for one. We have picks to offer with DSJR. Mitchell is a better player so will drive higher value. Also not suggesting wr give away every first round pick for Mitchell. But I don't think it would hurt to know what combination of DSJR and picks would dislodge Mitchell. Then we don't need to trade if it's too high an asking price. It's possible they already know, but I have no way of knowing that.

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2/9/2019  11:47 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
martin wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
franco12 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
ekstarks94 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Frank can still be a real useful player and is still very young. Unless we get a very good offer there is no reason to get rid of him

Frank is not the problem here. The fact that he has regressed under this coach who supposedly develops players shows you all you need to know about Fiz. Frank is going to be a very useful PG once a coach gives him the keys and he feels less deferential. A good kid with humility is ridiculed because he isn't being selfish chucker. Wr have neither the fans nor the coaching to appreciate what he brings to the game. Hope he gets traded soon, he deserves to play for a real coach on a team that appreciates system basketball. While we still continue 20 win seasons with Mudiay and Dennis Smith Jr has "career" seasons

100%

If he went to the spurs or gs...he would be a monster

Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/ ©DraftExpress

From Draftexpress. Not sure what the Spurs or Warriors would be doing with him at this young age but it sounds like the Knicks are following the prescribed plan for Frank.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/breaking-down-the-2017-nba-draft-39-s-loaded-guard-crop-6063/

Let's try this again. They would be using him in a structured offense which would maximize his skills in controlling the flow of the game. But never mind that. DraftExpress has the goods!!

Dude - you thought the Knicks could trade DSjr to Utah for Mitchell- where there was coverage of the fact that the Knicks reached out to Utah about a Mitchell for KP trade.

Maybe you could educate yourself a bit further before posting garbage.

So what? Why does Utah's refusal to trade for a heavy injury risk player with character issues preclude them from trading for a healthy player with character issues? There are people posting tweets comparing Dennis Smith Jr with Jordan with Magic. So do you think he is that good? And Utah wouldn't trade Mitchell for that?

The only person on this planet that thinks Utah giving up Mitchell in that scenario is you

Didn't suggest it had to be one for one. We have picks to offer with DSJR. Mitchell is a better player so will drive higher value. Also not suggesting wr give away every first round pick for Mitchell. But I don't think it would hurt to know what combination of DSJR and picks would dislodge Mitchell. Then we don't need to trade if it's too high an asking price. It's possible they already know, but I have no way of knowing that.

Except that it was reported the Knicks explored KP for Mitchell and found out he was considered untouchable. If KP doesn’t get you Mitchell why would you think DSjr and others gets that deal done? You seem to be posting without any knowledge of what has transpired, the cba etc.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
Knicks told Magic Frank was not available.

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