Ben McLemore, Kosta Koufas, Georgios Papagiannis, Deyonta Davis, Frank Mason III, and Willie Cauley-Stein are all players that the Knicks don't need to pay moving forward. I don't think they'd include Davis or Willie. But I guy like Ben McLemore would fit in nicely here - former lotto pick that hasn't quite lived up to expectations. We cut zbo and get a free look at someone that in theory could play our way into our future

Uptown wrote:A move to open up minutes for Kornet and Robinson in the middle...at the same time move a vet on an expiring who has made it known that he is unhappy with his new role. Kanters unhappiness will only get worse after the allstar break if he gets a few DNPs....good to trim the fat now if we can.

The Kings have like 9 second round picks over the course of the next few years. Even if all those picks panned out, which is unlikely,they won't have the necessary roster space. I think we can take a few off their hands in possible deal. Don't care if Kanter is happy or not, but this move makes sense for both sides.

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:A move to open up minutes for Kornet and Robinson in the middle...at the same time move a vet on an expiring who has made it known that he is unhappy with his new role. Kanters unhappiness will only get worse after the allstar break if he gets a few DNPs....good to trim the fat now if we can.

The Kings have like 9 second round picks over the course of the next few years. Even if all those picks panned out, which is unlikely,they won't have the necessary roster space. I think we can take a few off their hands in possible deal. Don't care if Kanter is happy or not, but this move makes sense for both sides.

Trading a asset for nothing in return, makes sense?

Thats my problem with this FO, they get nothing or very little in all of their trades. They will just waive Kanter soon so he can sign with a PO team.

They really think they have what it takes to sign major FAs

You think by superimposing their current play is the linear restraint by which they will play always? No, they will play off each other and things will open up. Chemistry and a system of play will. Timmy as the 3rd or 4th option on a good team will no doubt work. What if he puts up 18 but shoots 45%? How does he do that? No chucking. Why? Cuz he won't have to.

I like Rubio, and he'd do well for Hardaway. He does well for Mitchell! Kinda makes sense now.
Rubio a pass first euro with limited shooting ability. On this team he'd be a mess and we'd be calling for his head.
Mitchell would be a high volume shooter and we'd be bitching about him.
The logic Rainman1248 presents makes me more confident the FO is looking beyond the moment. Im not confident about anything other than:

This team is a mess, we have KP, a likely top 5 pick, cap space and non stop rumors about KD, and two blue chip rookies that are still going thru puberty. As mentioned by Stephan A, the knicks have a functional FO, better publicity policy and team now, and a new coach that has a great reputation. How good and how fast this happens I don' t know.
But things are different, just not on the floor this season.

JamesKPolk wrote:Degree of improvement?

The guy is shooting 39% from the field! He’s straight garbage.

A contingent of people here think that THJ is better than Bradley Beal.

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:This is a stupid trade for the Knicks. Bees is younger and should fetch a pick at least Zack has a foot out the door and will be cut probably. Still need a pick in return. This trade basically says Melo had no damn value. Which we knew.

Not sure how Kanter fetches a pick. He is owed 18 mil and his contract is expiring. If the Knicks wanted to take back a longer deal for Kanter they could probably get a pick but the want to be players in free agency. ZBO has a good rep as a veteran mentor type. The Knicks don’t want aka tee after this year. He opted in for a pay day. Moving him and keeping the cap space makes sense. I have heard some suggest the Knicks might just buy him out

Why can't they just trade for a use full player and stop worrying about cap space. I mean you want to leave some cap space for a possible star, but to think your going to fill every spot with viable options is putting all your eggs in one basket and ending up with (AA, NOAH, KOQ, and DWILL)

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:This is a stupid trade for the Knicks. Bees is younger and should fetch a pick at least Zack has a foot out the door and will be cut probably. Still need a pick in return. This trade basically says Melo had no damn value. Which we knew.

Not sure how Kanter fetches a pick. He is owed 18 mil and his contract is expiring. If the Knicks wanted to take back a longer deal for Kanter they could probably get a pick but the want to be players in free agency. ZBO has a good rep as a veteran mentor type. The Knicks don’t want aka tee after this year. He opted in for a pay day. Moving him and keeping the cap space makes sense. I have heard some suggest the Knicks might just buy him out

Why can't they just trade for a use full player and stop worrying about cap space. I mean you want to leave some cap space for a possible star, but to think your going to fill every spot with viable options is putting all your eggs in one basket and ending up with (AA, NOAH, KOQ, and DWILL)

Who will trade useful player for useless Kanter?
And what is useful for Knicks? Please elaborate.

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:This is a stupid trade for the Knicks. Bees is younger and should fetch a pick at least Zack has a foot out the door and will be cut probably. Still need a pick in return. This trade basically says Melo had no damn value. Which we knew.

Not sure how Kanter fetches a pick. He is owed 18 mil and his contract is expiring. If the Knicks wanted to take back a longer deal for Kanter they could probably get a pick but the want to be players in free agency. ZBO has a good rep as a veteran mentor type. The Knicks don’t want aka tee after this year. He opted in for a pay day. Moving him and keeping the cap space makes sense. I have heard some suggest the Knicks might just buy him out

Why can't they just trade for a use full player and stop worrying about cap space. I mean you want to leave some cap space for a possible star, but to think your going to fill every spot with viable options is putting all your eggs in one basket and ending up with (AA, NOAH, KOQ, and DWILL)

Build a case perhaps using precedent to justify Kanters value beyond your personal view that Front office is incompetent at all levels
Kanter has trade value beyond "cuz that's what I think". Don't worry about what we think, it has no baring on what Management does. We don't enable them at any level. If fans do they should be fired. Dolan is the won to worry about!!