With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

What you are cleaning cap for?
For KD who will not come?
This kind of moves are done when team has a verbal agreement with the star to come as FA.
Otherwise it is useless.
We need assets not blank cap space.

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

Adding Frank would be overkill. I think that you're trade is perfectly fine otherwise.

Dell Demps is on the hotseat and history shows he is willing to mortgage the future to save his job (see the CP3 trade to LAL). With his back against the wall, I think he'll take on long-term salary to make the team only incrementally better. After all, the Pelicans seem to be averse to developing players so I doubt that first round pick will have much value to them especially in a weak draft.

TLover wrote:Or expand the trade to Hardaway,Kanter, & Burke for
Nicola Mirotec (expiring), Wesley Johnson (expiring), Solomon Hill & 1st

Mirotic is a more valuable player than Kanter. Why would the Pelicans do that deal?

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

Stupid ass post. New Orleans has the 7th WORST record in the league. They are NOT trading a 1st rnd pick for Tim Hardaway. NO F'in WAY! Ainge would somehow sleeze in and make a trade to get this pick.

What's tricky here is that Jackson is a bit older. But if he rehabbed back to his previous self, he'd take the heat off Frankie and backcourt crew for a few years and allow them to develop. There's no cost savings in this trade. RJ becomes the starting PG for a year or two or until he wears out the welcome. It's a risky deal in some ways but an interesting accelerator of the rebuild if it worked.

Detroit maybe saves its season with the addition of Lee and loses little in RJ's departure.

fwk00 wrote:The other player who might be available is Detroit's Reggie Jackson who is choking there. Would they take Lee and Mudiay in straight exchange?

What's tricky here is that Jackson is a bit older. But if he rehabbed back to his previous self, he'd take the heat off Frankie and backcourt crew for a few years and allow them to develop. There's no cost savings in this trade. RJ becomes the starting PG for a year or two or until he wears out the welcome. It's a risky deal in some ways but an interesting accelerator of the rebuild if it worked.

Detroit maybe saves its season with the addition of Lee and loses little in RJ's departure.

I think Reggie Jackson has no value in this league and will likely be relegated to accepting one-year minimum deals for the rest of his career, if he intends on staying in the NBA. Courtney Lee might be an older player but he still has value to a contender.

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NardDogNation wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

I don't think you get a first-rounder back either.

I keep watching the Chandler Parsons drama in Memphis. Timmy and Hezonja for Parsons works more or less.

Not sure what Parsons has left in the tank but I'd roll those dice. And if not Timmy then maybe Kanter and an expendable.

Why would we give up the better player and take on worse money? What you're suggesting would be a coup for the Grizzlies.

It's a risky deal but it does move Timmy to a contender and kinda sorta allows the FO to package Hezonja without losing face.

Iff (If and only if) Parsons still has some game it might be a trade worth making.

Parson hasn't played in nearly 2 full seasons. Why is there any expectation he has any game left? And why would we add nearly $7 million to our payroll to find out?

NardDogNation wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

I don't think you get a first-rounder back either.

I keep watching the Chandler Parsons drama in Memphis. Timmy and Hezonja for Parsons works more or less.

Not sure what Parsons has left in the tank but I'd roll those dice. And if not Timmy then maybe Kanter and an expendable.

Why would we give up the better player and take on worse money? What you're suggesting would be a coup for the Grizzlies.

It's a risky deal but it does move Timmy to a contender and kinda sorta allows the FO to package Hezonja without losing face.

Iff (If and only if) Parsons still has some game it might be a trade worth making.

Parson hasn't played in nearly 2 full seasons. Why is there any expectation he has any game left? And why would we add nearly $7 million to our payroll to find out?

This is just me talking aloud but $7M is a cheap cost to get rid of THJ and Hezonja or Kanter and filler, IMO. I'm not buying into the MAX FA fantasies. Don't want any.

fwk00 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

ankurk wrote:Tim for Solomon Hill and their first

With the pressure of AD potentially wanting out on the pels - is it too far fetched that they look to make a move and part with their first rounder to get more firepower into their lineup and make a playoff push?

Worst case - they make a playoff run and the first rounder sucks but we shed tim
Best case - they suck even with tim and we get a late lottery pick in addition to a salary dump

If im being an unrealistic fan how about adding frank to it and taking back the expiring of wesley johnson?

I don't think you get a first-rounder back either.

I keep watching the Chandler Parsons drama in Memphis. Timmy and Hezonja for Parsons works more or less.

Not sure what Parsons has left in the tank but I'd roll those dice. And if not Timmy then maybe Kanter and an expendable.

Why would we give up the better player and take on worse money? What you're suggesting would be a coup for the Grizzlies.

It's a risky deal but it does move Timmy to a contender and kinda sorta allows the FO to package Hezonja without losing face.

Iff (If and only if) Parsons still has some game it might be a trade worth making.

Parson hasn't played in nearly 2 full seasons. Why is there any expectation he has any game left? And why would we add nearly $7 million to our payroll to find out?

This is just me talking aloud but $7M is a cheap cost to get rid of THJ and Hezonja or Kanter and filler, IMO. I'm not buying into the MAX FA fantasies. Don't want any.

We're getting rid of THJr to get a more expensive player that is also a worse asset. That logic doesn't make sense. I'm not a proponent of trying to sign anyone to the max but that doesn't mean we should be a charity, either.