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PresIke
Posts: 27640 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
1/23/2019 5:52 PM LAST EDITED: 1/23/2019 5:54 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:martin wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Zion relies on his athleticism a bit too much in games. On one hand, glad to see he likes mixing it up in the paint, but on the other hand...when are we ever going to play him at PF at that height. He needs to be able to really shoot it from the outside. We need sharp shooters more than anything else. Dude has an infectious personality, but there's a few red flags. That weight worries me whats going to happen 5 years from now...is he going to turn into mike sweetney? Indeed. He does take risks trying to make steals - so shows the scouting videos as well - and I have seen him disappear, as he doesn't really have a reliable go-to game with the ball in his hands outside of the paint, and is a poor FT shooter, but shooting can be learned. I think the weight questions are not something to be ignored, but nowadays there is so much more known about diet/training that I think it will be fine as long as he aims to live a fit and healthy lifestyle. As for his height, will it matter? He has incredible strength, great reach plus I think the most otherworldly hops I've ever seen that means he doesn't really need height. However, the chances we land him are slim. Even if we are in the top 2. Everyone has a bad chance, but that's why we are more likely to not get him and I think we have to expect that reality. The draft lottery is closer to a real lottery with the new chances, and the worse part is that it also means a greater chance of dropping quite far down as well. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37500 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/23/2019 6:02 PM
PresIke wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Zion is not a finished product and no doubt will have to learn to play with less emotion and tone it down. he contests a lot of shots and might damn well kill himself trying in college. Plus, LJ was a senior when he entered the draft and was 22 in his rookie year. Zion is only 18. LJ was one of the most unique athletes I've ever seen and Zion already eclipses him athletically at the age of 18! Think about that! He also has a 6'10" wingspan. While it's not freakish, it's still solid. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
1/23/2019 7:03 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:PresIke wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Zion is not a finished product and no doubt will have to learn to play with less emotion and tone it down. he contests a lot of shots and might damn well kill himself trying in college. Yeah, I think of LJ too, althougb I remwmber LJ being pretty terrible at defense the first few years of his career. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
1/23/2019 10:39 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:martin wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Zion relies on his athleticism a bit too much in games. On one hand, glad to see he likes mixing it up in the paint, but on the other hand...when are we ever going to play him at PF at that height. He needs to be able to really shoot it from the outside. We need sharp shooters more than anything else. Dude has an infectious personality, but there's a few red flags. That weight worries me whats going to happen 5 years from now...is he going to turn into mike sweetney? lebron developed a consistent jump shot...can zion? is that a risk? yes... Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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BigRedDog
Posts: 22118 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 1/23/2004 Member: #569 |
1/23/2019 11:25 PM
Cartman718 wrote:Zion relies on his athleticism a bit too much in games. On one hand, glad to see he likes mixing it up in the paint, but on the other hand...when are we ever going to play him at PF at that height. He needs to be able to really shoot it from the outside. We need sharp shooters more than anything else. Dude has an infectious personality, but there's a few red flags. That weight worries me whats going to happen 5 years from now...is he going to turn into mike sweetney? Mike Sweetney was like a nice soft comfortable couch. Zion is a friggin tank. No comparison at all. Briggs-- Frank is 2 yrs away from being 2 years away
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
1/24/2019 8:47 AM
PresIke wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Zion is not a finished product and no doubt will have to learn to play with less emotion and tone it down. he contests a lot of shots and might damn well kill himself trying in college. I've been saying he looks like college LJ too! The only negative to that is that eventually that style of play wore LJ's body down. Even then he was still a damn good player. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
1/24/2019 9:15 AM
You know who has really grown on me as of late? Jarrett Culver. Big two way high IQ SG who can move the rock and score the rock. He isn’t explosive but he plays steady kinda like Caris Lavert. Low key rate him over Barrett who I fear will just be a chucker in the league.
The Future is Bright!
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Chandler
Posts: 25988 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
1/24/2019 10:32 AM
I'll leave it to the guys who know college hoops and drafting but I've seen a number of college "man-child" types turn into busts in the NBA when all of a sudden they have to go against a team full of grown vets all with athleticism. Some players domination in college does not translate; others do. The comparisons to LJ are interesting to me.
We also need to consider team fit; is KP a 5 or a 4 and what's the net effect if he's best at 4 but you shift him to 5 I just hope we continue with the roll; I am very happy with how they drafted this year (5)(5)
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
1/24/2019 6:26 PM
martin wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Cartman718 wrote:martin wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Zion relies on his athleticism a bit too much in games. On one hand, glad to see he likes mixing it up in the paint, but on the other hand...when are we ever going to play him at PF at that height. He needs to be able to really shoot it from the outside. We need sharp shooters more than anything else. Dude has an infectious personality, but there's a few red flags. That weight worries me whats going to happen 5 years from now...is he going to turn into mike sweetney? Story of my life, bro I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
1/24/2019 6:32 PM
PresIke wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:martin wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Zion relies on his athleticism a bit too much in games. On one hand, glad to see he likes mixing it up in the paint, but on the other hand...when are we ever going to play him at PF at that height. He needs to be able to really shoot it from the outside. We need sharp shooters more than anything else. Dude has an infectious personality, but there's a few red flags. That weight worries me whats going to happen 5 years from now...is he going to turn into mike sweetney? It's not the weight itself that I worry about. It's the risk of injury because of it. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
1/24/2019 9:44 PM
I don’t care that he twisted his ankle. I am not convinced by Ja so far. He forces the issue on every play and he does not have a consistent jumper to make his driving game easier. As of now, I still have Barrett at number 2 and I’m not really a huge RJ fan so far.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
1/25/2019 3:23 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I don’t care that he twisted his ankle. I am not convinced by Ja so far. He forces the issue on every play and he does not have a consistent jumper to make his driving game easier. As of now, I still have Barrett at number 2 and I’m not really a huge RJ fan so far. Man, the draft is tough this year- everyone has big question marks, after Zion it's all up in the air. |
meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
1/25/2019 2:09 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I don’t care that he twisted his ankle. I am not convinced by Ja so far. He forces the issue on every play and he does not have a consistent jumper to make his driving game easier. As of now, I still have Barrett at number 2 and I’m not really a huge RJ fan so far. It's our school basketball system that keeps producing ball hogging shoot first guards. And it just carries over to the NBA I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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