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smackeddog
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6/8/2019  12:12 PM
More from the Hawks board:

More juicy bits.....

Hawks want two additional 1st rounders which we got one (TP Deal). The OKC deal might be draft night or any day. It'll be Roberson and #21 into our capspace.

8 is not available. 10 is available for moving down and a future asset. Teams aren't interested at this time but he confirmed my other three guys are right, they are telling player agents that they could move up to get them, just to get them for workouts with no intent of moving up. Teams don't want to trade a 2020 pick. Especially top 10 protected with descending protections.

Cleveland is looking to add more 1st with Atlanta and take on additional years and Gilbert is willing to pay LT for 2019-20 for better players. (Hayward and Gallo). If Atlanta is trading picks with Cavs, Hawks will be looking for them to reduce the protection on the 2020 1st they owe us.

PHX talking to the Hawks about potentially moving down trade. It seems like it's still on the table. It's seemed to be based around Tyler Johnson and #6 for #10. Not sure if there is more. Seems like there is interest. I been waiting for feedback about this one for awhile. Confirmed that the Suns are interested and have recently asked the Hawks again depending on if their guy is at #6. I am guessing PHX guy is Darius Garland. From what I was told, they aren't too happy about the options at #6.

I do think OKC will move their first to get rid of Roberson's contract, would have liked us to make such a move if we miss out on free agency.

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6/9/2019  11:01 AM
smackeddog wrote:More from the Hawks board:

More juicy bits.....

Hawks want two additional 1st rounders which we got one (TP Deal). The OKC deal might be draft night or any day. It'll be Roberson and #21 into our capspace.

8 is not available. 10 is available for moving down and a future asset. Teams aren't interested at this time but he confirmed my other three guys are right, they are telling player agents that they could move up to get them, just to get them for workouts with no intent of moving up. Teams don't want to trade a 2020 pick. Especially top 10 protected with descending protections.

Cleveland is looking to add more 1st with Atlanta and take on additional years and Gilbert is willing to pay LT for 2019-20 for better players. (Hayward and Gallo). If Atlanta is trading picks with Cavs, Hawks will be looking for them to reduce the protection on the 2020 1st they owe us.

PHX talking to the Hawks about potentially moving down trade. It seems like it's still on the table. It's seemed to be based around Tyler Johnson and #6 for #10. Not sure if there is more. Seems like there is interest. I been waiting for feedback about this one for awhile. Confirmed that the Suns are interested and have recently asked the Hawks again depending on if their guy is at #6. I am guessing PHX guy is Darius Garland. From what I was told, they aren't too happy about the options at #6.

I do think OKC will move their first to get rid of Roberson's contract, would have liked us to make such a move if we miss out on free agency.

Great stuff. Thanks.

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6/11/2019  6:03 PM
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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6/11/2019  6:16 PM
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Looks like he’s our guy.

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6/11/2019  11:19 PM
hopefully not just for a few days/weeks...
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6/12/2019  5:41 AM
So RJ says he really wants to play in New York. He already knows he’s going too 5 so I understand why he’s not working out with other teams but what is a draft player supposed to say, that he doesn’t want to play here?

If that’s the case why isn’t Zion coming out and saying I don’t want to play for a super small market like New Orleans

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6/12/2019  11:22 AM
A video on Culver from a former NBA scout. This guy did a video on RJ earlier this month. Makes some compelling arguments for Culver, but I don't feel he touched on enough on his weaknesses. Still, as we're seeing, the Culver > RJ take isn't as outlandish as it seemed a few months ago. A few people have come forward with this view. I still see RJ as having the higher upside and our front office appears to feel the same way.

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smackeddog
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6/12/2019  12:08 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:A video on Culver from a former NBA scout. This guy did a video on RJ earlier this month. Makes some compelling arguments for Culver, but I don't feel he touched on enough on his weaknesses. Still, as we're seeing, the Culver > RJ take isn't as outlandish as it seemed a few months ago. A few people have come forward with this view. I still see RJ as having the higher upside and our front office appears to feel the same way.

I was more open to trading down for Culver before KD got injured. Now I think we just have to swing for the fences

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6/12/2019  4:29 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:A video on Culver from a former NBA scout. This guy did a video on RJ earlier this month. Makes some compelling arguments for Culver, but I don't feel he touched on enough on his weaknesses. Still, as we're seeing, the Culver > RJ take isn't as outlandish as it seemed a few months ago. A few people have come forward with this view. I still see RJ as having the higher upside and our front office appears to feel the same way.

I was more open to trading down for Culver before KD got injured. Now I think we just have to swing for the fences


What if a post AD deal w/ the Lakers and Suns nets the Pelicans 4&6 (Lakers and Suns's pick for Lonzo) and then the Pelicans offer us 4&6 to move up to 3?

Would you pass on Barrett to add Culver+1? I would love to add Bol or Brandon Clarke... I wonder who the Knicks would take?

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smackeddog
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6/12/2019  4:40 PM
fishmike wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:A video on Culver from a former NBA scout. This guy did a video on RJ earlier this month. Makes some compelling arguments for Culver, but I don't feel he touched on enough on his weaknesses. Still, as we're seeing, the Culver > RJ take isn't as outlandish as it seemed a few months ago. A few people have come forward with this view. I still see RJ as having the higher upside and our front office appears to feel the same way.

I was more open to trading down for Culver before KD got injured. Now I think we just have to swing for the fences


What if a post AD deal w/ the Lakers and Suns nets the Pelicans 4&6 (Lakers and Suns's pick for Lonzo) and then the Pelicans offer us 4&6 to move up to 3?

Would you pass on Barrett to add Culver+1? I would love to add Bol or Brandon Clarke... I wonder who the Knicks would take?

I’d definitely take 4th and 6th for the 3rd, but I think it makes more sense for the Pels to keep the 4th and 6th. Think they’ll be nicely set up from a lakers deal, but I suspect they’re trying to flip some of it for Beal.

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6/13/2019  8:38 AM
For sure you trade down from 3 for the 4 & 6.... I believe that's above historical premiums for trading down. I think it becomes more interesting the more picks you accumulate. It's too bad that our player development is unproven, but let's assume we solve that part (big IF). If we could turn a 3rd pick into 4 picks ranging from 10-25, I would love that. Here's a sampling of what's been available further down the draft

Kevin Huerter (pick 19, 2018)
Landry Shamet (pick 26, 2018)
Donovan Mitchell (pick 13, 2017)
OG Anunoby (pick 23, 2017)
Kyle Kuzma (pick 27, 2017)
Caris Levert (pick 20, 2016)

There's tons of value in later picks in the draft and that's where we're at right now. We need to fill out our roster to setup our next move or continue to develop. We're basically a few years behind where the Nets are, and that's if things go well

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6/13/2019  10:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2019  11:48 AM
We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

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6/13/2019  11:54 AM
A week to go!
smackeddog
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6/13/2019  11:56 AM
KnickDanger wrote:A week to go!

I was so excited for it a few weeks ago, now I'm feeling a bit flat following KD's injury

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6/13/2019  1:42 PM
smackeddog wrote:We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

Yeah, you're missing the biggest name on the list, the "Tacko King" lol. I think we also worked the scrub brother of Tobias Harris. I think he might be worse than Chris Smith judging by his college stats.

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6/13/2019  1:50 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

Yeah, you're missing the biggest name on the list, the "Tacko King" lol. I think we also worked the scrub brother of Tobias Harris. I think he might be worse than Chris Smith judging by his college stats.

Weird how few people we've worked out

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6/13/2019  2:28 PM

I’d absolutely take a gamble on Bol Bol if we had a second first rounder

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6/13/2019  2:48 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

Yeah, you're missing the biggest name on the list, the "Tacko King" lol. I think we also worked the scrub brother of Tobias Harris. I think he might be worse than Chris Smith judging by his college stats.

Weird how few people we've worked out

Yeah, makes me think it really is AD, RJ or bust.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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6/13/2019  2:56 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

Yeah, you're missing the biggest name on the list, the "Tacko King" lol. I think we also worked the scrub brother of Tobias Harris. I think he might be worse than Chris Smith judging by his college stats.

Weird how few people we've worked out

Yeah, makes me think it really is AD, RJ or bust.

Has Deandre Hunter worked out for anyone? He’s been invisible the entire draft process- no interviews or anything. same with Garland, must have promises

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6/13/2019  3:10 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:We're meeting with Ja Morant tomorrow- I would feel so much better going into our full rebuild via the young guys with him at the PG spot, but I just don't see the Griz passing on him, unless Glen Grunwald does us a solid and hypes RJ due to his canadian bball connections (he's a Griz advisor resident and CEO of Canada Basketball)

However, this news did make me realise, we haven't really worked out/met with many players this year (outside of those projected to be second rounders)- from what I can remember we've only met:

RJ
Culver
Cam Reddish
and now Ja Morant

Am I missing anyone?

Leads me to believe we won't be trading down or adding any other first round picks

Yeah, you're missing the biggest name on the list, the "Tacko King" lol. I think we also worked the scrub brother of Tobias Harris. I think he might be worse than Chris Smith judging by his college stats.

Weird how few people we've worked out

Yeah, makes me think it really is AD, RJ or bust.

Has Deandre Hunter worked out for anyone? He’s been invisible the entire draft process- no interviews or anything. same with Garland, must have promises

Are teams, players supposed to announce all workouts and interviews?

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