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smackeddog
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4/11/2019  4:15 PM
Crazy that the Celtics could have 4 first round picks in this draft
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4/11/2019  4:21 PM
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Is he even allowed to?

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4/11/2019  5:35 PM
It's over, but how can you rationally explain this. We are one of the biggest markets in the league and we finish with the worse record...can't believe it. Something has got to change.
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4/11/2019  10:32 PM
ccch wrote:It's over, but how can you rationally explain this. We are one of the biggest markets in the league and we finish with the worse record...can't believe it. Something has got to change.

The team is rebuilding. The rational explanation is that the team was horribly mismanaged by a former player and hof coach for three plus years. Seven first round picks over the next five years, cap room for 2 max players and one of the youngest teams in the nba to me means this is not the same old Knicks. This offseason is going to be huge for Perry/Mills. If they don’t land the Ks I think they use the cap space to take on bad contracts and acquire assets. Maybe they sign some high character vets like DEAndre to one year deals.
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4/11/2019  10:40 PM
The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.
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4/12/2019  3:03 AM
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

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4/13/2019  9:56 AM
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.

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4/13/2019  10:25 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.

I think that part of the true process is what scouting to get Mitch and Zo was. I think part of the true process is acquiring assets like 7 first round picks in 5 years. Having assets and tremendous cap flexibility is a part of the process. I think committing to a rebuild, having the youngest team in the league and ending up with a chance at a franchise cornerstone player in the lottery is a part of the process. Having the worst record to guarantee a top 5 pick is a part of the process that has been happening. This isn't the same old Knicks.
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4/13/2019  4:02 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.

I think that part of the true process is what scouting to get Mitch and Zo was. I think part of the true process is acquiring assets like 7 first round picks in 5 years. Having assets and tremendous cap flexibility is a part of the process. I think committing to a rebuild, having the youngest team in the league and ending up with a chance at a franchise cornerstone player in the lottery is a part of the process. Having the worst record to guarantee a top 5 pick is a part of the process that has been happening. This isn't the same old Knicks.

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4/13/2019  7:50 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.

I think that part of the true process is what scouting to get Mitch and Zo was. I think part of the true process is acquiring assets like 7 first round picks in 5 years. Having assets and tremendous cap flexibility is a part of the process. I think committing to a rebuild, having the youngest team in the league and ending up with a chance at a franchise cornerstone player in the lottery is a part of the process. Having the worst record to guarantee a top 5 pick is a part of the process that has been happening. This isn't the same old Knicks.

We agree.

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4/14/2019  8:14 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:The Rangers did jump from #6 to #2 to land a generational player, they had a 7.8% chance at the second pick.

I'm so anxious about May 14th, it's the most important date for us, more important than what happens in free agency. If we land the 1st or 2nd and luck out in free agency we're still good.

I would like to see the mindset of a true "process", not letting a roll of the dice -- or bounce of a ping pong ball -- affect a solid rebuilding vision that isn't tailored to the bipolar fan base or media piranhas. Unlikely I know, but I just can't have my happiness -- even just as a Knick fan -- be contingent on getting Zion or Morant. Especially since we most likely won't.

I think that part of the true process is what scouting to get Mitch and Zo was. I think part of the true process is acquiring assets like 7 first round picks in 5 years. Having assets and tremendous cap flexibility is a part of the process. I think committing to a rebuild, having the youngest team in the league and ending up with a chance at a franchise cornerstone player in the lottery is a part of the process. Having the worst record to guarantee a top 5 pick is a part of the process that has been happening. This isn't the same old Knicks.

Well said.
THe process is you have the 5th or better. The tank was largely in part getting reps to the yoot.
You create more opportunity by having yoot grow up or out. More opportunity to draft Zion even if its not the odds of the past.
Control KP rather than be controlled.
Pull Zo and Mitch from nowhere.
Able to sustain forward growth even is a pick does not pan out. Denver whiffed on Mudiay and finished a 2nd seed out west. They and Portland traded centers that improved both teams. Some trades are Win-win.

This is not the same old knicks.

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4/14/2019  9:04 AM
Anyone who has followed Bol Bol prior to his injury. Would he be able to play PF or is he a pure Center?
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4/14/2019  11:11 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Anyone who has followed Bol Bol prior to his injury. Would he be able to play PF or is he a pure Center?

I don't think he's quick enough to defend PF, probably a pure center at least defensively. Offensively, he could probably play either position.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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4/14/2019  3:51 PM
Bol BOl’s build just raises too many questions for me.
Could not make half a college season. Does he come out for the draft or stay in school and get his body right to prove otherwise.
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4/14/2019  4:44 PM
So I was just thinking how throughout these draft discussions that I’ve never really considered what it might be like if we actually got Zion. I’ve been considering the 85%+ odds that we pick 2-5.

But if we were somehow fortunate to get #1, wow... how it’d transform the organization. How he’s fit alongside our players. How there did be no logical reason why we’d toy with bringing Hezonja back. Another unicorn. And the perfect trade bait for Anthony Davis if that’s the route we choose to explore.

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4/14/2019  5:39 PM
Nalod wrote:Bol BOl’s build just raises too many questions for me.
Could not make half a college season. Does he come out for the draft or stay in school and get his body right to prove otherwise.

He was unbelievably slow before he got hurt.

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4/15/2019  11:58 AM
VCoug wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Anyone who has followed Bol Bol prior to his injury. Would he be able to play PF or is he a pure Center?
I don't think he's quick enough to defend PF, probably a pure center at least defensively. Offensively, he could probably play either position.
He is like a taller Thon Maker.
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4/15/2019  12:32 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
VCoug wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Anyone who has followed Bol Bol prior to his injury. Would he be able to play PF or is he a pure Center?
I don't think he's quick enough to defend PF, probably a pure center at least defensively. Offensively, he could probably play either position.
He is like a taller Thon Maker.

Taller, skinnier, more injury prone, more skilled Thon Maker

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4/15/2019  1:57 PM
martin wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
VCoug wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Anyone who has followed Bol Bol prior to his injury. Would he be able to play PF or is he a pure Center?
I don't think he's quick enough to defend PF, probably a pure center at least defensively. Offensively, he could probably play either position.
He is like a taller Thon Maker.

Taller, skinnier, more injury prone, more skilled Thon Maker

Agree, He is his dad but a better athlete and far more fundamentals.
Translate to the NBA? I did not see that. But im not an expert.

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4/15/2019  1:59 PM
Cam Reddish declared.
Be ready to boo. Nalod not convinced he is as bad as some of you say.
He'll be process and evaluated. Always interesting.
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