BigRedDog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:I don't buy the chalk it up to youth excuse. Yes that accounts for certain things, e.g., Adam's tricks on Mitch to seal him off from a rebound

But youth should also mean fresh legs, hunger etc.

We are in a serious rut at the moment and IMHO at the moment we have no idea what we are trying to accomplish on offense or defense, as in zero.

Good coaches know how to extract a player's strengths and hide their weaknesses. Exhibit A on this should be players like Harden and DeRozan who I am certain if they were in a Knick uniform would be one dimensional offensive bums, but with a good organization are superstars. Exhibit B could be someone like Capella who was one dimensional defense. Exhibit C could be Steve Novak under Woodson.

Honestly, every player in the league has flaws including Lebron (e.g., his ego and his coach issues)

Coaches are like chefs, the players are ingredients. Even with the humble egg, some make dried out scrambled eggs and others soufflé's

Our "good" guys are not playing right, and not being put into positions to succeed.

We also need the humility to concede that certain personnel decisions however well intended were not wise. If Hezonja still can't figure it out, let's give that slot and those minutes to someone who might, same too re Burke, and IMHO Mudiay

100% agree

I like fiz, but he maybe like the rest of the coaches we have encountered, A GOOD ASSISTANT.

The fact that our last 3 coaches(Fiz,JH, FISHER) have had very little to no HEAD coaching experience, says a lot about MILLs, although JH and fisher was more on phil

Also, Mills was well aware (even after perry and mills stated) that you should never put together a squad as young and as inexperience as these guys are and expect development to progress.

You cant win with young players because they don't how, they don't really care as much, and it's so easy for them to lose confidence.

Young guys will always fall back on bad habits.

No leadership, No legit PG, and no worth while veterans, will get you no where fast..

Fiz game plan is being executed by a bunch of clueless cast off players who have a ton of bad habits, and low confidence.

Waiving Noah without at least seeing what kind of impact he could of had was pretty stupid. If kanter goes down, all we have is Mitch and kornet..really

To state that Fiz at this point is only a good assistant is ridiculous. Brad Stevens, who I think is one if not the best coach in the NBA , 1st yr with the Celtics record was 25-57. He had much better players on that team than we do. We may not see it the last 2 games but the Knicks are hustling and playing better defense than I have seen a Knick team do in many yrs. We need to be patient. I guarantee this team will be better as the yr progresses. Fiz is a good young coach who we need to give him time here.

Oh i'm not on board with firing him, but the front office has to stop thinking that they can make moves to get him better players.

The celtics at least got ISaiah thomas via trade to set off there winning culture, they gave fiz mudiay,

why the hell is burke getting DNP's, while trier, frank, THJ, mudiay, mario don't even avg 6 assist combine

Nalod wrote:Weird right, Lance goes out and two blow outs. He was not the answer but his absence is notable.

Lance isn't injured. He's handling covert negotiations with Zion's team.

JamesKPolk wrote:I think we can all agree that this team needs more talent. A lot more.

Knox, we have no idea what he’ll be. He’s very raw now. He doesn’t do anything but shoot. Can’t play defense, pass or rebound. He’ll need a minimum 2 years to come along.

Mitchell has some God given athletic talents that can’t be taught. Now he just needs to learn the fundamentals. I think the sky is the limit for him. Out of everyone on our roster, he’s the guy I believe in the most (KP aside).

Trier is a nice Lou Williams iso player but needs to develop some passing skills to be potent. He has a good 6th man career in this league if he can improvd his court vision.

Frank is going to be a solid player in the league. He’ll never be a star and he’ll never score a lot. He’ll be a nice role player - even a starter - on a good team because of his elite defense. That can’t be taught.

Dotson is a bench guy at best but he’s shown some signs. He should be back next year.

Vonleh has been a great find. He’s a nice diamond in the rough role player to have on a small deal.

Hezonja is awful. Not deserving of an NBA roster spot.

Mudiay/Burke - fringe NBA players at best. Not worthy to be in any future discussion.

I can’t thibk of anyone else who matters.

Baker, Luke, Lance, Kanter, and Lee are all irrelevant to the future of the team.

Hardaway Jr is the brick master. A 6th man for any other team but on ours he’s the first option with KP out. Props to Mills for the awful contract given to Brickaway. It ensures he’ll never be traded for the duration of his deal.

See... even casual fans can see who is who.
Fiz is doing great job get into the clear with what we have and what we need.
Good job.

BigRedDog wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:I don't buy the chalk it up to youth excuse. Yes that accounts for certain things, e.g., Adam's tricks on Mitch to seal him off from a rebound

But youth should also mean fresh legs, hunger etc.

We are in a serious rut at the moment and IMHO at the moment we have no idea what we are trying to accomplish on offense or defense, as in zero.

Good coaches know how to extract a player's strengths and hide their weaknesses. Exhibit A on this should be players like Harden and DeRozan who I am certain if they were in a Knick uniform would be one dimensional offensive bums, but with a good organization are superstars. Exhibit B could be someone like Capella who was one dimensional defense. Exhibit C could be Steve Novak under Woodson.

Honestly, every player in the league has flaws including Lebron (e.g., his ego and his coach issues)

Coaches are like chefs, the players are ingredients. Even with the humble egg, some make dried out scrambled eggs and others soufflé's

Our "good" guys are not playing right, and not being put into positions to succeed.

We also need the humility to concede that certain personnel decisions however well intended were not wise. If Hezonja still can't figure it out, let's give that slot and those minutes to someone who might, same too re Burke, and IMHO Mudiay

100% agree

I like fiz, but he maybe like the rest of the coaches we have encountered, A GOOD ASSISTANT.

The fact that our last 3 coaches(Fiz,JH, FISHER) have had very little to no HEAD coaching experience, says a lot about MILLs, although JH and fisher was more on phil

Also, Mills was well aware (even after perry and mills stated) that you should never put together a squad as young and as inexperience as these guys are and expect development to progress.

You cant win with young players because they don't how, they don't really care as much, and it's so easy for them to lose confidence.

Young guys will always fall back on bad habits.

No leadership, No legit PG, and no worth while veterans, will get you no where fast..

Fiz game plan is being executed by a bunch of clueless cast off players who have a ton of bad habits, and low confidence.

Waiving Noah without at least seeing what kind of impact he could of had was pretty stupid. If kanter goes down, all we have is Mitch and kornet..really

To state that Fiz at this point is only a good assistant is ridiculous. Brad Stevens, who I think is one if not the best coach in the NBA , 1st yr with the Celtics record was 25-57. He had much better players on that team than we do. We may not see it the last 2 games but the Knicks are hustling and playing better defense than I have seen a Knick team do in many yrs. We need to be patient. I guarantee this team will be better as the yr progresses. Fiz is a good young coach who we need to give him time here.

JamesKPolk wrote:

arkrud wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:I think we can all agree that this team needs more talent. A lot more.

Knox, we have no idea what he’ll be. He’s very raw now. He doesn’t do anything but shoot. Can’t play defense, pass or rebound. He’ll need a minimum 2 years to come along.

Mitchell has some God given athletic talents that can’t be taught. Now he just needs to learn the fundamentals. I think the sky is the limit for him. Out of everyone on our roster, he’s the guy I believe in the most (KP aside).

Trier is a nice Lou Williams iso player but needs to develop some passing skills to be potent. He has a good 6th man career in this league if he can improvd his court vision.

Frank is going to be a solid player in the league. He’ll never be a star and he’ll never score a lot. He’ll be a nice role player - even a starter - on a good team because of his elite defense. That can’t be taught.

Dotson is a bench guy at best but he’s shown some signs. He should be back next year.

Vonleh has been a great find. He’s a nice diamond in the rough role player to have on a small deal.

Hezonja is awful. Not deserving of an NBA roster spot.

Mudiay/Burke - fringe NBA players at best. Not worthy to be in any future discussion.

I can’t thibk of anyone else who matters.

Baker, Luke, Lance, Kanter, and Lee are all irrelevant to the future of the team.

Hardaway Jr is the brick master. A 6th man for any other team but on ours he’s the first option with KP out. Props to Mills for the awful contract given to Brickaway. It ensures he’ll never be traded for the duration of his deal.

See... even casual fans can see who is who.
Fiz is doing great job get into the clear with what we have and what we need.
Good job.

Casual fans?

Gtfo.

I know we are all great basketball minds here on UK, especially knicks1248...
He knows the stuff...

Kanter is a massive liability on this team. Any talk of improving defense absolutely must include a deeper bench role for Kanter. Robinson and Kornet need to be tested in the paint. If we're going to lose, learn while you lose.

Burke and Hezonja need to be released immediately if not sooner. Complete waste of learning minutes. Promote Jenkins from the G-League.

Play Mudiay and Frank as often as possible Vonleh has earned a starting spot. Bring Hicks in for the second squad.

Anyone not cutting the mustard should get moved.

Expect reinjury with Porzingis, he's a bone-head that doesn't learn.

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