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StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Two starters and the sixth man in one draft class is pretty impressive. One or both of Dotson and Frank will be starting and the other will be in the rotation from the previous draft class. What is turning out to be a really good restricted free agent signing at the 2 guard spot and Porzingis coming back has the Knicks set up really well. Management and a coaching staff on the same page. The big picture is looking really good.

Yes i really like our Front Office. However I gotta be fair and give kudos to phil/gaines for their drafts as well. All draft picks have been or will be key pieces going forward.

This team is close, striking gold with this draft has fast forward this rebuild. I wouldn’t be surprised if we sneak into the playoffs this year if we stay healthy.

Next year we could be contending!

As much hype there is around Durant, I want Leonard his defense is unreal and would turn us into the number one defensive squad in the NBA.

Fuck it, aim for BOTH. Pump up THJr's value and see what kind of pressure Leonard can put on for a sign and trade while Durant moves in with the cap space

Lol with today’s nba players anything is possible!

Thjr is playing great basketball , if he stays healthy he’s a all star, I’d be hesitant to trade him.

I’m really excited to see Knox get back, he is a amazing talent, steal of the lottery.

Robinson looks like the steal of the draft so far, kid has superstar talent.

Trier is the steal of the year, man that kid can ball! Could he be the first undrafted rookie of the year?

Yeah I am interested to see this whole core group together. Porzingis, knox, Robinson, hardaway, trier, ntilikina, and Dotson. If Durant wants to come, great. If he doesn’t I wouldn’t be opposed to a big Rozier contract who is a good 2way player at age 24. But I’m okay with this group growing together.

Dot, THJr, Frank, Trier, Lee... why even think about Rozier?

I think some team overpays for Rozier. He turned down a Celtics extension and I have heard speculation that it is because he wants to be the man not Kyrie's backup. I believe he is looking for a deal that pays him 18-20 mil a year. I like him as a player and would not be upset if the Knicks got him in free agency but that is a lot of money.

It’s unknown what an overpay will be. Take a look at his playoff numbers from last year. He is a really good 2way guard in a league where there’s not many.

Rozier 2-way? Offensive side of things leaves a lot to be desired

I don’t disagree. Just saying he’s shown signs and is still young.

Rozier is the type of FA we should be going after...He's 24 and fits the age profile of the team...He showed and proved that he can lead a team on a deep playoff run....He averaged 16, 6 and 5. He's practicing and competing with a championship caliber team everyday, so he could serve as a mentor to some of our guys in terms of the work and commitment it will take to be elite...I feel like he's ready to break out, just needs the minutes.

Agreed. He had to be a target if we don’t land one of the top guys. He fits the plan.

What plan? You don’t sign non 2-way players to big contracts

Why is he not 2way. He’s great defensiveiy and improving offensively. He can shoot now and has improved as a playmaker. Was the leader of the team in playoffs last year. Not a great sample size but not small either. He still has borderline star potential. Why not sign a guy who can grow with the core?

Frank Trier Lee THJr Dot are all under contract.

Unless Rosier is signed to a min deal his contract will prevent you from signing an actual impact player.

KD and Anthony Davis, imo, should be our top two FA priorities....If we strike out on KD which is a high probability, I wouldn't mind waiting it out for Davis the following summer....However, I wouldn't mind if management decides to take a look at Rozier but I definitely dont want to blow the bank on him....If he will come on a discounted rate but with a promise to compete for a starting spot that he will never get in Boston, why not listen?

Before this could happen, or course we need to move Lee's contract...As of right now, its looking like Burke is being fazed out, and Mudiay is probably gone this summer, so the only pg we will have on the roster is Frank. Any interest in Rozier will come down to our coaching staff's evaluation of Frank and is he the answer as out future pg? If not, how much better is Rozeir than Frank (Rozier is better IMO), can Fiz continue to develop Rozier and can he lead a team on a deep playoff run?

Hahah.....chicken crap might be a overstatement. But Utah overachieved bigtime last year.

They did

martin wrote:

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martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

martin wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Two starters and the sixth man in one draft class is pretty impressive. One or both of Dotson and Frank will be starting and the other will be in the rotation from the previous draft class. What is turning out to be a really good restricted free agent signing at the 2 guard spot and Porzingis coming back has the Knicks set up really well. Management and a coaching staff on the same page. The big picture is looking really good.

Yes i really like our Front Office. However I gotta be fair and give kudos to phil/gaines for their drafts as well. All draft picks have been or will be key pieces going forward.

This team is close, striking gold with this draft has fast forward this rebuild. I wouldn’t be surprised if we sneak into the playoffs this year if we stay healthy.

Next year we could be contending!

As much hype there is around Durant, I want Leonard his defense is unreal and would turn us into the number one defensive squad in the NBA.

Fuck it, aim for BOTH. Pump up THJr's value and see what kind of pressure Leonard can put on for a sign and trade while Durant moves in with the cap space

Lol with today’s nba players anything is possible!

Thjr is playing great basketball , if he stays healthy he’s a all star, I’d be hesitant to trade him.

I’m really excited to see Knox get back, he is a amazing talent, steal of the lottery.

Robinson looks like the steal of the draft so far, kid has superstar talent.

Trier is the steal of the year, man that kid can ball! Could he be the first undrafted rookie of the year?

Yeah I am interested to see this whole core group together. Porzingis, knox, Robinson, hardaway, trier, ntilikina, and Dotson. If Durant wants to come, great. If he doesn’t I wouldn’t be opposed to a big Rozier contract who is a good 2way player at age 24. But I’m okay with this group growing together.

Dot, THJr, Frank, Trier, Lee... why even think about Rozier?

I think some team overpays for Rozier. He turned down a Celtics extension and I have heard speculation that it is because he wants to be the man not Kyrie's backup. I believe he is looking for a deal that pays him 18-20 mil a year. I like him as a player and would not be upset if the Knicks got him in free agency but that is a lot of money.

It’s unknown what an overpay will be. Take a look at his playoff numbers from last year. He is a really good 2way guard in a league where there’s not many.

Rozier 2-way? Offensive side of things leaves a lot to be desired

I don’t disagree. Just saying he’s shown signs and is still young.

Rozier is the type of FA we should be going after...He's 24 and fits the age profile of the team...He showed and proved that he can lead a team on a deep playoff run....He averaged 16, 6 and 5. He's practicing and competing with a championship caliber team everyday, so he could serve as a mentor to some of our guys in terms of the work and commitment it will take to be elite...I feel like he's ready to break out, just needs the minutes.

Agreed. He had to be a target if we don’t land one of the top guys. He fits the plan.

What plan? You don’t sign non 2-way players to big contracts

Why is he not 2way. He’s great defensiveiy and improving offensively. He can shoot now and has improved as a playmaker. Was the leader of the team in playoffs last year. Not a great sample size but not small either. He still has borderline star potential. Why not sign a guy who can grow with the core?

Frank Trier Lee THJr Dot are all under contract.

Unless Rosier is signed to a min deal his contract will prevent you from signing an actual impact player.

You really don’t think he’s an impact player ? Did you watch him in playoffs. He was the 2nd or 3rd best player on an ECF team.

BigDaddyG wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Ira wrote:It just seems that Celtics players who leave either by trade or free agency don't play as well with their next teams.

That certainly was the case for Crowder and Thomas. Crowder seems to be bouncing back a bit in Utah but he again is playing for one of the best coaches in the league in a non dysfunctional situation.

Yeah, Snyder and Stevens have shown they can occasionally make chicken stew out of chicken crap. Smart and Rozier are very flawed players who would get killed on a daily basis if they played in NY. Rozier has been to up and down in his career to throw big bucks at. I'd like to see us show some restraint if we strike out in 2019 free agency.

If a player is available, it's usually for a reason. Occasionally you'll get a situation like Harden, Irving, Shaq to the Lakers, but it's rare.

The more talent you have, the more you can hide the flaws/trade offs for some of your players.

Melo, if he got drafted instead of Darko with the Pistons, it could have been a whole different story ( that team was built to defend and needed a volume scorer) Even when the Bulls ( with younger Noah, Rose, Deng) were decently suited for Melo's skill set.

Rozier is playing with a lot of talent around him. Take that away, and ask the player to do more, and things start to look differently.

Knicks would better off "renting" the cap space out to take in a short term bad contract for more draft picks. But those kind of deals are drying up as more and more teams enter the tax zone.

arkrud wrote:

Nalod wrote:Timmy would look much better if he was not the 1st option.
JR smith looked good for a while next to love and Lebron.

Timmy have to be the first and the last option on some lineups we are playing.
He is not a superstar and not paid like one.
He get an opportunity to gun and he does.
When Knox will be back and when KP will return this all will settle back to normal.
There is only one ball...

Yes Hardaway at the very least will be eventually be our 3rd option. KP regains first option status next season and Knox probably takes over #2 by year 3.