meloshouldgo wrote:Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:GustavBahler wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Uptown wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:Uptown wrote:For years, people on this site have been complaining about Knick coaches not holding everyone accountable. I bet if it was Melo who didn't fight through a screen and got benched most everyone on this board would have applauded. But because its Frank, people have a problem. What happened to holding EVERYONE accountable for a missed assignment? Burke was benched most of the 4th quarter for leaving a Buck player wide open in the corner. Burke was responsible for keeping us in the game during the 3rd but still got benched for missing a defensive assignment and ain't nobody said **** about that. But since Frank got benched, everybody got a problem. Pat Riley would have benched him. So would Pop. I bet Frank will learn from this especially during the film session.
not sure what melo or burke has to do with it. Its not frank vs melo/burke Lets be honest you cant compare defense with frank and those guys. Fighting through a screen isnt easy. I could understand if frank was free and hesitated going out on him but that wasnt it. Look I didnt see it so im not yelling at fiz. My issue with fiz is that he kept the successful starting unit out too long until we were in a 10 point hole
Don't be naive...you know exactly why I brought up Melo and Burke! Melo was the most hated and Trey was benched against the Bucks for a missed defensive assignment just like Frank was last night and nobody was upset about that. I get it, though...Frank is the boards darling or as Gustav said, the community pick. That's why most are upset about the benching. One poster said Frank is too sensitive to get benched! WTF! I applaud a coach for holding EVERYONE accountable regardless of the name on the back of the jersey.
You claim to call it fairly but you clearly take it personally when people defend Frank. You are intentionally making this about the benching which no one had protested that. If you follow the Knicks at all you should know Frank needs to build his confidence in being aggressive. When you are having the best game of your life you can expect to have your coach not treat you like garbage in front of the whole team and a garden crowd or to go out of his way to humiliate you. Holding EVERYONE accountable is the standard, so have you seen Fiz rip your precious Burke a new ******* and publicly humiliate him everytime he fails to fight through a screen? Or do you call for accountability then? What kind of defense did Burke, THJR and Trier play when they were in their conceding the lead? Why aren't YOU asking for them to be held accountable and benched AND humilated in the same way?
He's just a baby! 
Dont believe Frank took getting chewed out over a blown assignment as seriously as you have.
Frank was treated with kid gloves his rookie year. I didnt see Hornacek yell at Frank once. He was given regular minutes, regardless of his play, and a wide berth.
Frank isnt a rookie anymore, this might be the first time he really got chewed out since becoming a Knick.
Id rather Frank understand that the training wheels are coming off.
Thats why Fizdale started him, why he chewed him out.
And in 3, 2, 1...
You are so predictable. It's comical.
Sorry, first time Frank really gets an earful as a pro, and you make it sound like he needs a hug and a juice box.
Cmon man. Frank can handle it, if he cant then thats a problem. Lets see how Frank responds. Might surprise you 
This all I'm saying!!! My post aint anti-Frank...if anything, its Pro-Fiz! I'm excited that we finally have a coach that will seemingly hold all players accountable and ain't afraid to COACH these players. Aint afraid to get in these players faces and demand attention to details!! This is a big change from the passive-puppet Horncek, or Woodson who clearly played favorites....I feel like we finally got the coach that's going to turn this program around...
What complete BS - unless you can point out where I made it sound like he needs a hug, you are just projecting as usual. I have no issues with a coach that demands attention to details, I was responding to a post by Marv who clearly said Fiz put on a **** show on the sidelines. This isn't professional coaching behavior. So he needs to be held accountable to it. And again since neither of you can respond to what I asked let me clarify - I have no issues with Fiz chewing out Frank as long as he does it consistently to ALL the players who make defensive errors.
You both know as well as I do he has never put on a **** show for any other Knicks player for missing defensive assignments. Don't post about EVERYONE being held ACCOUNTABLE and community picks, unless you are prepared to defend it.
Projecting a hug to you right now, lol. Just the fact that this is even an issue, considering no player over the last year or so has been coddled more than Frank. I understand why, also understand why thats coming to an end.
If it was as bad as some say, it works to Frank's advantage in several ways.
Dont believe its unfair to say that while Frank has done some good things, mostly on D, he hasnt shown the kind of game you want to see from a starting PG. Frank showed some of it last night.
Yelling at Frank the way Fizdale did lets him know that he cant let up on D, even on his best night as a Knick. Just like he yelled at Knox after he made a big play, right after a defensive lapse. Its tough love.
Wouldnt be surprised if Fizdale talked to Frank later under calmer circumstances. This let him know he can wind up right back on the bench. Im sure it made an impression on Frank. All depends on how often IMO.
Fizdale screaming at Frank helps him in another way. After benching 2 starters, 2 vets, it helps Frank not to look to his teammates like he is being treated differently.
