GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:How am i bashing this kid by being frustrated that he doesn't do jack sht on offense.

What I'm suppose to pat him on the back for giving us nothing on offense.

Hey FRANK great job taking zero shots and no free throws, your doing a hell've a job.

Do you pat guys on the back for scoring 30, and giving up 40. Mario hasn't earn the right to be a starter, Dotson has, but there is no way in hell you Play 6 6" frank and 6 6" Dotson in your front court.

if thats not a bias against frank, i dont know what is. lol not worth the trouble.

Would you trade for somebody thats going to give you 5 pts, 33% shooting 27% from downtown and hardly ever takes FT.

If your ok with players like that, then that's your preference, just don't talk about your love for two players in your next sentence

can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

I dont necessarily agree. I mean saying he doesnt want to be a good offensive player is impossible unless we are in their heads. Also according to many sources teams ask about frank more than anyone and Perry hasnt been interested. So it shows while his offense is a work in progress he is still well regarded around the league and by the knicks

Often in the first split second Frank gets the ball, there is an opportunity to attack the rim, shoot, or pass.

Then a few seconds more until Frank has another opportunity, usually passes.

When Frank starts taking that first opportunity to score, before the defense has time to react, I'll know Frank is taking offense more seriously.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:How am i bashing this kid by being frustrated that he doesn't do jack sht on offense.

What I'm suppose to pat him on the back for giving us nothing on offense.

Hey FRANK great job taking zero shots and no free throws, your doing a hell've a job.

Do you pat guys on the back for scoring 30, and giving up 40. Mario hasn't earn the right to be a starter, Dotson has, but there is no way in hell you Play 6 6" frank and 6 6" Dotson in your front court.

if thats not a bias against frank, i dont know what is. lol not worth the trouble.

Would you trade for somebody thats going to give you 5 pts, 33% shooting 27% from downtown and hardly ever takes FT.

If your ok with players like that, then that's your preference, just don't talk about your love for two players in your next sentence

can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

I dont necessarily agree. I mean saying he doesnt want to be a good offensive player is impossible unless we are in their heads. Also according to many sources teams ask about frank more than anyone and Perry hasnt been interested. So it shows while his offense is a work in progress he is still well regarded around the league and by the knicks

Often in the first split second Frank gets the ball, there is an opportunity to attack the rim, shoot, or pass.

Then a few seconds more until Frank has another opportunity, usually passes.

When Frank starts taking that first opportunity to score, before the defense has time to react, I'll know Frank is taking offense more seriously.

Frank takes everything seriously. I think last year was definetly accurate to what you are saying. This year he hasnt been as passive. Unfortunetly the shots just havent gone down yet...but they will I have a feeling

Not seriously enough on O. How many times has Frank been to the line this season? Trier might have more trips to the line in one game than Frank has as a Knick. Thats concerning.

The longer it goes on, the harder it is to paper over. There is a reason Frank gets looked off. Not because they dont respect his effort, they dont respect his offense. Only Frank can change that.

Has to be able to go on offense as soon as he gets the ball. See it from Burke, Trier, THJ, Knox, not so much from Frank. At some point it will cost him PT. In spite of the other things he does well. Especially when Knox gets back.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:How am i bashing this kid by being frustrated that he doesn't do jack sht on offense.

What I'm suppose to pat him on the back for giving us nothing on offense.

Hey FRANK great job taking zero shots and no free throws, your doing a hell've a job.

Do you pat guys on the back for scoring 30, and giving up 40. Mario hasn't earn the right to be a starter, Dotson has, but there is no way in hell you Play 6 6" frank and 6 6" Dotson in your front court.

if thats not a bias against frank, i dont know what is. lol not worth the trouble.

Would you trade for somebody thats going to give you 5 pts, 33% shooting 27% from downtown and hardly ever takes FT.

If your ok with players like that, then that's your preference, just don't talk about your love for two players in your next sentence

can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

I dont necessarily agree. I mean saying he doesnt want to be a good offensive player is impossible unless we are in their heads. Also according to many sources teams ask about frank more than anyone and Perry hasnt been interested. So it shows while his offense is a work in progress he is still well regarded around the league and by the knicks

Often in the first split second Frank gets the ball, there is an opportunity to attack the rim, shoot, or pass.

Then a few seconds more until Frank has another opportunity, usually passes.

When Frank starts taking that first opportunity to score, before the defense has time to react, I'll know Frank is taking offense more seriously.

Frank takes everything seriously. I think last year was definetly accurate to what you are saying. This year he hasnt been as passive. Unfortunetly the shots just havent gone down yet...but they will I have a feeling

Not seriously enough on O. How many times has Frank been to the line this season? Trier might have more trips to the line in one game than Frank has as a Knick. Thats concerning.

The longer it goes on, the harder it is to paper over. There is a reason Frank gets looked off. Not because they dont respect his effort, they dont respect his offense. Only Frank can change that.

Has to be able to go on offense as soon as he gets the ball. See it from Burke, Trier, THJ, Knox, not so much from Frank. At some point it will cost him PT. In spite of the other things he does well. Especially when Knox gets back.

Frank will be fine. I mean burke and trier are known for their offense but not much else. Frank is still a kid basically and it was always projected his offense would take some time. Limiting his playing time isnt gonna help us especially on the defensive end

I understand its early. Frank is playing about 8 more minutes per game, and is taking just one more shot. Averaging 1 more point with those 9 extra minutes, on his season average. Was hoping for a stronger start out of the gate.

The fact that Frank has yet to get to the line and playing almost 30 minutes a game now, is not good news.

If Franks PT is limited by Fizdale, it will be because Frank is limiting himself on offense. Some good two-way players on the bench look ready to compete with Frank for minutes this season.

Fizdale said, its about production, not where you were picked, or your salary. Right approach.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:How am i bashing this kid by being frustrated that he doesn't do jack sht on offense.

What I'm suppose to pat him on the back for giving us nothing on offense.

Hey FRANK great job taking zero shots and no free throws, your doing a hell've a job.

Do you pat guys on the back for scoring 30, and giving up 40. Mario hasn't earn the right to be a starter, Dotson has, but there is no way in hell you Play 6 6" frank and 6 6" Dotson in your front court.

if thats not a bias against frank, i dont know what is. lol not worth the trouble.

Would you trade for somebody thats going to give you 5 pts, 33% shooting 27% from downtown and hardly ever takes FT.

If your ok with players like that, then that's your preference, just don't talk about your love for two players in your next sentence

can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

I dont necessarily agree. I mean saying he doesnt want to be a good offensive player is impossible unless we are in their heads. Also according to many sources teams ask about frank more than anyone and Perry hasnt been interested. So it shows while his offense is a work in progress he is still well regarded around the league and by the knicks

Often in the first split second Frank gets the ball, there is an opportunity to attack the rim, shoot, or pass.

Then a few seconds more until Frank has another opportunity, usually passes.

When Frank starts taking that first opportunity to score, before the defense has time to react, I'll know Frank is taking offense more seriously.

Frank takes everything seriously. I think last year was definetly accurate to what you are saying. This year he hasnt been as passive. Unfortunetly the shots just havent gone down yet...but they will I have a feeling

Not seriously enough on O. How many times has Frank been to the line this season? Trier might have more trips to the line in one game than Frank has as a Knick. Thats concerning.

The longer it goes on, the harder it is to paper over. There is a reason Frank gets looked off. Not because they dont respect his effort, they dont respect his offense. Only Frank can change that.

Has to be able to go on offense as soon as he gets the ball. See it from Burke, Trier, THJ, Knox, not so much from Frank. At some point it will cost him PT. In spite of the other things he does well. Especially when Knox gets back.

Frank will be fine. I mean burke and trier are known for their offense but not much else. Frank is still a kid basically and it was always projected his offense would take some time. Limiting his playing time isnt gonna help us especially on the defensive end

I understand its early. Frank is playing about 8 more minutes per game, and is taking just one more shot. Averaging 1 more point with those 9 extra minutes, on his season average. Was hoping for a stronger start out of the gate.

The fact that Frank has yet to get to the line and playing almost 30 minutes a game now, is not good news.

If Franks PT is limited by Fizdale, it will be because Frank is limiting himself on offense. Some good two-way players on the bench look ready to compete with Frank for minutes this season.

Fizdale said, its about production, not where you were picked, or your salary. Right approach.

Again I think Fizdale means effort. Fiz knows he always brings it and his presence is important out there which is why fiz plays him a lot. Although I agree I want to see Frank score I dont just look at the scoresheet to evaluate how important a player is. Lets be honest for 15 years we have had plenty of those players who light up the scoresheet but thats it and our win total hasnt been pretty lol

Again with the false choice of where Frank is now. and John Wall. Its not one or the other. There is a middle ground.

Frank can also help his case by cutting more, not camping on the arc. Burke found Frank, when he cut to the rim last game. Wouldnt mind seeing more of that as well.

Give the defense more to worry about. Makes Frank less predictable.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:How am i bashing this kid by being frustrated that he doesn't do jack sht on offense.

What I'm suppose to pat him on the back for giving us nothing on offense.

Hey FRANK great job taking zero shots and no free throws, your doing a hell've a job.

Do you pat guys on the back for scoring 30, and giving up 40. Mario hasn't earn the right to be a starter, Dotson has, but there is no way in hell you Play 6 6" frank and 6 6" Dotson in your front court.

if thats not a bias against frank, i dont know what is. lol not worth the trouble.

Would you trade for somebody thats going to give you 5 pts, 33% shooting 27% from downtown and hardly ever takes FT.

If your ok with players like that, then that's your preference, just don't talk about your love for two players in your next sentence

can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

I dont necessarily agree. I mean saying he doesnt want to be a good offensive player is impossible unless we are in their heads. Also according to many sources teams ask about frank more than anyone and Perry hasnt been interested. So it shows while his offense is a work in progress he is still well regarded around the league and by the knicks

Often in the first split second Frank gets the ball, there is an opportunity to attack the rim, shoot, or pass.

Then a few seconds more until Frank has another opportunity, usually passes.

When Frank starts taking that first opportunity to score, before the defense has time to react, I'll know Frank is taking offense more seriously.

Frank takes everything seriously. I think last year was definetly accurate to what you are saying. This year he hasnt been as passive. Unfortunetly the shots just havent gone down yet...but they will I have a feeling

Not seriously enough on O. How many times has Frank been to the line this season? Trier might have more trips to the line in one game than Frank has as a Knick. Thats concerning.

The longer it goes on, the harder it is to paper over. There is a reason Frank gets looked off. Not because they dont respect his effort, they dont respect his offense. Only Frank can change that.

Has to be able to go on offense as soon as he gets the ball. See it from Burke, Trier, THJ, Knox, not so much from Frank. At some point it will cost him PT. In spite of the other things he does well. Especially when Knox gets back.

Frank will be fine. I mean burke and trier are known for their offense but not much else. Frank is still a kid basically and it was always projected his offense would take some time. Limiting his playing time isnt gonna help us especially on the defensive end

I understand its early. Frank is playing about 8 more minutes per game, and is taking just one more shot. Averaging 1 more point with those 9 extra minutes, on his season average. Was hoping for a stronger start out of the gate.

The fact that Frank has yet to get to the line and playing almost 30 minutes a game now, is not good news.

If Franks PT is limited by Fizdale, it will be because Frank is limiting himself on offense. Some good two-way players on the bench look ready to compete with Frank for minutes this season.

Fizdale said, its about production, not where you were picked, or your salary. Right approach.

Again I think Fizdale means effort. Fiz knows he always brings it and his presence is important out there which is why fiz plays him a lot. Although I agree I want to see Frank score I dont just look at the scoresheet to evaluate how important a player is. Lets be honest for 15 years we have had plenty of those players who light up the scoresheet but thats it and our win total hasnt been pretty lol

Again with the false choice of where Frank is now. and John Wall. Its not one or the other. There is a middle ground.

Frank can also help his case by cutting more, not camping on the arc. Burke found Frank, when he cut to the rim last game. Wouldnt mind seeing more of that as well.

Give the defense more to worry about. Makes Frank less predictable.

he Actually has cut and been open but they havent really gotten him the ball.

At some point you are going to run out of excuses. Its the coach, its his teammates, it never ends. As I said, Frank wont get looked off if he shows he's worth passing to.

A starter who still has not gotten to the line once this season, tells Frank's teammates that he is risk averse. That does not inspire confidence in his offense. Only Frank can do that with his play.

Means more shooting, more driving, more cutting. All of it. Otherwise he's going to lose PT to someone who does, and plays D. Fizdale would be foolish to do otherwise.

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

Agree with you that he needs sense of urgency to become a good offensive player. No denying that. Also no denying that he has a potential to get there based on shown flashes this season and last.

Frank is never in a hurry. That's good sometimes, but sometimes it's soooo baaaad. One looks at his deficient O and says "when is this guy going to get better on offense"?
I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone's notion that he won't.

Read through the remaining posts on this thread. Absolutely agree that Dotson is playing better than Frank right now. Dotson is also 24. Burke 25. Timmy 26. Trier and Mudiay 22.

Everyone is indicting Mudiay at 22 and saying Trier's got the IT factor at the same age. It doesn't mean that Mudiay cannot develop or that Trier cannot develop some trigger happy bad habits.

Frank's got at least 2 years on his closest in age competition on the team. I am not saying that lets not pass judgment until he turns 22, but dude did turn 20 this July. His progression out the gate this season has been slow or visually non-existent. In my opinion, Frank understands that the season is a marathon and that he needs more stamina to play good on both ends of the floor. I remember there were some posts / threads from Nix last season where he showed how an opposing guard did against Frank in the first head-to-head vs the next head-to-head, the latter being in Frank's favor.

This shows me that he's watching film, student of the game, intent on improving. I do think that where he was towards the end of last season, the beginning of this season seems a little regressed compared to that. That's not a good sign at the moment.

Put this way...20 games into the season if he's playing exactly like he is right now, it should be disappointing.
Similarly, 70 games into the season, if he's playing like he played 20 games into the season, again it should be disappointing.

The only thing that with Frank you can preach to the fan base is...patience for now.

The FO has faith that 2 years from now, he'll be a baller compared to any of the other players I mentioned in this post.
I dont think Timmy, Burke are going to develop good D all of a sudden (harder to change those bad habits on D vs changing bad habits on O)
Dotson I have high hopes for to become a good SG and hopefully one day take over the starting SG role on this team, unless we draft a stud at that position or if KD is coming our way.

GustavBahler wrote:Lance earned the starter's job, but it looks like Mario is about to take it from him. He's earning it. Not as out of control at times, as he was to start the season.

Good thing about Thomas, there wont be any drama if he does get sent to the bench.

As someone pointed out, Frank and Thomas are both glue guys. Thomas isnt shooting 3s at the clip he used to. Been a while. Together thats not a lot of Offense.

Impressive that the Knicks are in it right to the end despite having so little offense on tap, to start the game. And no KP, and now no Knox.

Fizdale getting the team to play like this all season, no matter who plays, would be quite an achievement.

Not really worried about this 4 games into the season. I agree Frank needs to pick it up, but I wasn't expecting him to become Steph Curry. That said, I don't think Mario is the guy Frank needs to worry about. Mario's defense and intensity are still too inconsistent. Dot on the other hand has shown consistent overall effort and is physical enough for the "SF" spot. I can definitely see him getting a look at starting SF if he keeps it up.

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:can you please name me great offensive players who developed good D after being in the league for 5 years?
can you then please name great defensive players who developed good O after being in the league for 5 years? or even less years for that matter?

if you are so blind that you cannot see frank gets a pass simply because he is in his sophomore season, then no one can reason with your idiocy.
ok he's not jason tatum.... great. he's not kyrie or steph...great. but everything about him states that he has the potential to become great. and that he's working towards realizing that potential. just because that's too slow FOR YOU!!!!, does not mean it isn't happening. smh.

Dont see someone who wants to be a good offensive player, let alone a great one. Not about talent. Frank's first instinct is to defer. Sometimes thats not a good idea.

Frank needs a sense of urgency when it comes to offense. Might not be traded anytime soon, but could find himself on the bench and losing PT to teammates who play D and who wont hesitate to pull the trigger, when they have a good look.

Agree with you that he needs sense of urgency to become a good offensive player. No denying that. Also no denying that he has a potential to get there based on shown flashes this season and last.

Frank is never in a hurry. That's good sometimes, but sometimes it's soooo baaaad. One looks at his deficient O and says "when is this guy going to get better on offense"?
I wholeheartedly disagree with anyone's notion that he won't.

Read through the remaining posts on this thread. Absolutely agree that Dotson is playing better than Frank right now. Dotson is also 24. Burke 25. Timmy 26. Trier and Mudiay 22.

Everyone is indicting Mudiay at 22 and saying Trier's got the IT factor at the same age. It doesn't mean that Mudiay cannot develop or that Trier cannot develop some trigger happy bad habits.

Frank's got at least 2 years on his closest in age competition on the team. I am not saying that lets not pass judgment until he turns 22, but dude did turn 20 this July. His progression out the gate this season has been slow or visually non-existent. In my opinion, Frank understands that the season is a marathon and that he needs more stamina to play good on both ends of the floor. I remember there were some posts / threads from Nix last season where he showed how an opposing guard did against Frank in the first head-to-head vs the next head-to-head, the latter being in Frank's favor.

This shows me that he's watching film, student of the game, intent on improving. I do think that where he was towards the end of last season, the beginning of this season seems a little regressed compared to that. That's not a good sign at the moment.

Put this way...20 games into the season if he's playing exactly like he is right now, it should be disappointing.
Similarly, 70 games into the season, if he's playing like he played 20 games into the season, again it should be disappointing.

The only thing that with Frank you can preach to the fan base is...patience for now.

The FO has faith that 2 years from now, he'll be a baller compared to any of the other players I mentioned in this post.
I dont think Timmy, Burke are going to develop good D all of a sudden (harder to change those bad habits on D vs changing bad habits on O)
Dotson I have high hopes for to become a good SG and hopefully one day take over the starting SG role on this team, unless we draft a stud at that position or if KD is coming our way.

Very True. Despite being a fan of his I NEVER have said that his offense is gonna be or is great. Ive said countless times that he needs to be more aggressive and improve. However I also do talk positively about what he brings while still working on his offensive game. My problem is really one person who I feel is being overly crtical in every aspect.

I wouldn't want nothing more for this kid but success. It's like being around a super smart dude, but all he does is smoke weed and play video games all day and he's broke.

I think if we are trying to change the culture, he has to be accountable for his lack of offense, I don't think he should be rewarded more minutes for less offensive production, unless he's playing boarder line DPOY type defense.

The fact that we use THJ on Tatum and Le vert to defend the last shot, makes me wonder how much faith fiz really has in franks defense. Isn't he suppose to be our best perimeter defender? I know fiz took responsibility for his decision making and it's all a learning process. I don't want to sacrifice wins for development, especially if we're not learning from our mistakes. What I mean by that is, THJ is not a very good defender, you saw that and one night, and went back to him the next night and he failed again, like you didn't learn your lesson

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The fact that we use THJ on Tatum and Le vert to defend the last shot, makes me wonder how much faith fiz really has in franks defense. Isn't he suppose to be our best perimeter defender? I know fiz took responsibility for his decision making and it's all a learning process. I don't want to sacrifice wins for development, especially if we're not learning from our mistakes. What I mean by that is, THJ is not a very good defender, you saw that and one night, and went back to him the next night and he failed again, like you didn't learn your lesson

“I want you guys to look at it like this,” he said. “There was a day I played. If I was in a game playing against a college teammate, and we’ve been going tit for tat — 28, 29 (points), back and forth, back and forth. And the last play of the game, coach goes ahead and says, ‘I’m gonna put him [somebody else] on LeVert], I might lose Timmy. That could crush him.”

also...how do you make this about frank lol or are you not making it about frank.

knicks1248 wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:The fact that we use THJ on Tatum and Le vert to defend the last shot, makes me wonder how much faith fiz really has in franks defense. Isn't he suppose to be our best perimeter defender? I know fiz took responsibility for his decision making and it's all a learning process. I don't want to sacrifice wins for development, especially if we're not learning from our mistakes. What I mean by that is, THJ is not a very good defender, you saw that and one night, and went back to him the next night and he failed again, like you didn't learn your lesson

“I want you guys to look at it like this,” he said. “There was a day I played. If I was in a game playing against a college teammate, and we’ve been going tit for tat — 28, 29 (points), back and forth, back and forth. And the last play of the game, coach goes ahead and says, ‘I’m gonna put him [somebody else] on LeVert], I might lose Timmy. That could crush him.”

also...how do you make this about frank lol or are you not making it about frank.

Look, i know the season is young, but you gotta to be careful of racking up a string of losses. You start losing faith in yourself, the coaching staff, you confidence takes a hit.

Frank doesn't shoot because he's scared of failure, once he misses a few shots, he's done shooting. There will always be a role for him on any team, but will he be able to take on more on his plate in the time of need (like when injuries and foul trouble play a role).

thanks for answering my question....NOTTTTT