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Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

newyorknewyork wrote:

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Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

Remember, there are three sides to every story.
(Triangle reference)

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1049765419400261632

Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

You are really starting to make yourself look foolish. If you honestly think that a team was just offering a **** return for frank then you are really lost.

He knows better. He just went on a little emotional tantrum since Frank triggers these emotions for some reason. Then he will play victim.

The deals negotiated were probably when Knicks tried to dump Noah or Lee and teams would demand Frank be apart of the deal to take on the players contract. Or if the Knicks seeked out a stud player doing due diligence. That team would ask for Frank as part of any deal to aquire said player. Those would be the most logcial scenarios.

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1049765419400261632

Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

You are really starting to make yourself look foolish. If you honestly think that a team was just offering a **** return for frank then you are really lost.

seriously I like the kid but he is the only draft pick we have had in 15 yrs with a projected minus win pct

ESTIMATED WINS ADDED AVERAGE

Out of every pick we had, Frank is the worse on this list and KP and D Lee are the best since 2003. Now I'm not sure what goes into these stats, but he is the only player in RED

http://www.draftexpress.com/clubhouse/Knicks-3/draft-picks-and-trades

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1049765419400261632

Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

You are really starting to make yourself look foolish. If you honestly think that a team was just offering a **** return for frank then you are really lost.

seriously I like the kid but he is the only draft pick we have had in 15 yrs with a projected minus win pct

ESTIMATED WINS ADDED AVERAGE

Out of every pick we had, Frank is the worse on this list and KP and D Lee are the best since 2003. Now I'm not sure what goes into these stats, but he is the only player in RED

http://www.draftexpress.com/clubhouse/Knicks-3/draft-picks-and-trades

Your not only stupid, your lazy. At least your not color blind.

From John Hollinger:

EWA = Estimated Wins Added is Value Added divided by 30, giving the estimated number of wins a player adds to a team’s season total above what a "replacement player" would produce.

BTW, how does one quantify this number? You don't understand it but you use it? Who did he replace?
Since the rookies don't have a rating, and Frank's scoring average is not high, is it that simple?
Don't use stuff you don't understand.

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Ira wrote:Frank has improved, but he still has a way to go on offense. But he's a hard worker and a smart player, so he should continue to improve offensively, while playing very good d.

Of Course. Thats a very fair assessment. We all know his defense is his biggest strength and the offense will take some time to blossom. The reason i have been happy since the SL is because he looks much more aggresive, not passing up shots,and even taking it to the hoop. He still such a young kid but with more experience things should start to get easier for him

you really think it takes 164 games to get through to someone.

I watch frank every single time he is giving the ball to bring up court, after a make or miss, 99 out of 99 times he is giving the ball up as soon as he passes half court.

Were talking over 500 possessions, and you want me to believe he is going to grow out of doing that, he has blown more fast break opportunities than any player i have seen in the NBA in the last 5 yrs. Fiz has already ruled him out of playing PG or starting, he will bring him off the bench as a 2 or 3.

I fully understand your train of thought and your optimism, but ask yourself this, Is frank the kind of player you acquire in a speed ball attack system?

If fiz is the coach and you had to redo the draft would still take frank over DSJ?

Yes he would. This has been confirmed. I love when you argue with your alternative facts. You so silly!

his track record for being right isnt too good lol. Also says "you CANT rebuild through the draft and its better to trade picks for guys like butler even though ,99 percent of fans know that is stupid

you can't build through the draft ALONE, the suns, kings, and magic have proven that. You draft, trade, and sign FA..that's how you build. Anything else your just putting all your eggs in one basket

You still have to draft the right player, which is harder than you would care to admit

I NEVER said it was easy. I also NEVER said that you shouldnt sign free agents. However the core has to be through the draft. Hell even before KD went to Golden State they were a champion BECAUSE of the draft. Look at Philly now. They are loaded with young talent and already made a big step forward BECAUSE of the draft.

They have picks that are NBA ready despite the injuries that held them back. They also drafted players that fit their system. You think phil would have drafted KNOX..Hell NO, in his first press conference he said he was looking for players who can jump out the building.

would you trade frank for the spurs 1st rnd pick and another player?

I would see what they would be willing to give up for frank and Lee, they are pretty desperate at this point

How do you know Phil wouldnt of picked Knox? He did pick KP. Obviously I know thats a big reason you dont like frank. Also as much as you are begging for it the Knicks arent trading Frank. So you might as well prepare yourself that next year out of the 3 ,guards he is the only lock to be here

Dude cmon on man

“We know what we want, and we are interested in developing that and turning away from just say this guy can jump out of the gym, this guy can do a triple-double game or dunk the ball,’’ Jackson said. “That is not what we are interested in. We are interested in skill players that know how to play together in team form.”

That's more so the frank type than Knox

You know damn well that this current regime/coach would not have drafted frank so cut it out.

We drafted a suppose pg at #8 and are still searching for a better one.

There's a few of you on here that wouldn't trade frank for labron or durant. I have no problem keeping him, just not at the position you would like

Knox wouldn't fit the skilled team player mold?

The trend during the Phil era when it came to draft picks was he will take the player who had superior physical size/length with largest boom or bust potential. Knox workout over Bridges was supposedly pretty epic and dominant from skill shown to physicality. Would have been hard for any GM/Prez witnessing to pass him up after that.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19711837/knicks-1st-rounder-frank-ntilikina-draws-rave-reviews-phil-jackson

This was Phil's first interview after selecting Frank. Not once did he mention him for any position. At the time of the draft we didn't sign Tim Hardaway Jr and Phil was looking to dump Melo. So at the time of the draft we had no PG, SG, SF, or Center of the future (Unless you considered KP that).

"We like the size of this young man, we like his aptitude for the game, athleticism, actually the ability to incorporate himself in a winning type of a situation," Jackson said shortly after the Knicks took Ntilikina with their first-round pick.

"Top-10 picks are all really young guys," Jackson said. "You have to understand that when you go in the draft these particular years. ... We know this is a project-type of atmosphere where we have to build a player that is going to develop. We hope he jumps out and helps our team this year."

"It was a pick that we had to think about and argue about as a staff and discuss merits," Jackson said.

"A lot, it has a lot to do with it," Jackson said. "He's up court playing full-court defense. He's aggressive. He likes to do that. He thinks that's a big part of who he is."

"The reality is, we have to grow a team together," said Jackson, who would prefer to trade veteran Carmelo Anthony this summer. "One of the things that I thought about was my own experience and the Knicks' experience when they had success in the late '60s and early '70s, where five or six players were all within one, two years experience in the NBA. Different time. College matriculated out into the NBA. I think we have to start growing our own kids."

They took a player who they liked his foundation and wanted to develop his game.

Excellent Post Newyork. You along the rest of us are presenting facts BUT I guess he just believes what he wants to believe

That is an excellent point, I remember after that draft arguing on a different forum how Frank was a Nic Batum player (and maybe here too) who would be great at SG due his handle, but the next (current) knick regime came in during FA and paid a SG which meant either they force Frank to be a PG or they admit to the fact that in spite having a ton of holes on the roster all they did was create a SG glut.

To make matters worse (or better) Frank looks like a NBA player so they can't just say welp we were right in signing Timmy, they got to find minutes for both. So then the Frank at PG experiment started and here we are.

The best course would be for the knicks to get a PG in FA, put Timmy next to him at SG (to have a two ballhandler backcourt) and let Timmy come off the bench to score buckets to his hearts content. That however is an ideal world where egos and snarky reporters don't exist to stir the pot and make Drama.

Frank was drafted to be a point guard. Mills was a part of that draft and then signed Tim. I agree that Frank might be better served playing the 2 and acting as a secondary ball handler. I think if you are going to argue regime change you get into the area where some say Frank was drafted to be a triangle point guard by the previous regime.

Exactly,You draft according to the system your running, so if Mills(who had very little say)Scott, and Fiz had basically no say in the draft of frank, and running nothing close to a triangle, how is he a good fit?

Some just feel like we're going to make him fit, we're going to squeeze the triangle into that circle.

Kinda getting tired of this "he is a triangle player" bs. I also love how you make these crazy assumptions like fizdale is "stuck" with him. The organization and fiz have had had nothing but good things to say about him and his future. So once again the front office,coach,and most fans are behind him and he is is apart of this young core....get over it

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1049765419400261632

Got this from realgm.

Looks like our triangle that nobody runs anymore pg has a lot of teams interested in him. But y would that be? What is it about this triangle specific player that has teams interested. I cant put my finger on it?

Not only that, but the Knicks haven't had any interest in trading him. Despite a regime change. Y would they want this triangle player when there is no more triangle?

It don't make no sense?

there you have it.

When your being offered 2nd round picks and longer contracts, basically pure trash in return of course your going to Hang up the phone just like they did with offers for KOQ, Lee, Noah, THJ.

Besides I never said trade frank, I said if there's was an opportunity to get a better player that fits or a higher pick they should entertain it.

You are really starting to make yourself look foolish. If you honestly think that a team was just offering a **** return for frank then you are really lost.

seriously I like the kid but he is the only draft pick we have had in 15 yrs with a projected minus win pct

ESTIMATED WINS ADDED AVERAGE

Out of every pick we had, Frank is the worse on this list and KP and D Lee are the best since 2003. Now I'm not sure what goes into these stats, but he is the only player in RED

http://www.draftexpress.com/clubhouse/Knicks-3/draft-picks-and-trades

Your not only stupid, your lazy. At least your not color blind.

From John Hollinger:

EWA = Estimated Wins Added is Value Added divided by 30, giving the estimated number of wins a player adds to a team’s season total above what a "replacement player" would produce.

BTW, how does one quantify this number? You don't understand it but you use it? Who did he replace?
Since the rookies don't have a rating, and Frank's scoring average is not high, is it that simple?
Don't use stuff you don't understand.

Honestly I dont know why I even bother with that guy. If he wont at least be upfront with his dissatisfaction with Frank and his selection then he should at least present credible facts to justifywhy frank doesnt fit in our future plan. I mean everyone else seems to be fair,objective, but still excited that frank is apart of the future. So either knicks 1248 knows more than all of us and the knicks organization or maybe he should reassess what he is saying

you 2 sound like you have wet dreams about this kid...lol

You more obsess than Nix was about the triangle

Nolad, most of the time your not even worth responding to your such a narrow mind bafoon.

knicks1248 wrote:I think frank shots selection is his number 1 problem, those long ass 2's(that he would take in a triangle set) are very low percentage shots, and it doesn't help his confidence when they brick off the rim. Every player has a sweet spot, whats his?

One thing is for certain..he's not a 2g or a Pg so maybe his best position is Sf

Thjr only thing for certain is you have an axe to grind. Go right for Dallas and Dennis Smith Jr.