TripleThreat wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Just to be clear, I've been a proponent of the youth movement and building through the draft in general...but if Giannis becomes available, I think I'd sacrifice whatever we've collected (outside of KP), our 2019 first round pick (unprotected) and future picks for him. I think what we have in Knox, Mitchell, Ntilikina and assets are compelling enough to be a competitive offer if there is a bidding war. It would deplete our team but with impending cap space, I think we could reasonably re-tool around both he and Kristaps. Worse comes to worse, we could take a swing at Kyrie, who I wouldn't mind as the 3rd star on the team. Of course all this is contingent on the Bucks underperforming this season but I don't see that as a stretch despite the addition of Budenholzer and their lack of floor spacing.
While things can change. He has shown 0 interest in leaving the Bucks. Even stated something along the lines of wanting to be a Buck for life or something like that.
What has sparked this thread to believe he would be available?
The complication for any Greek Freak trade is that the Bucks have a complicated ownership situation. A three headed monster in Edens, Lasry and Dinan. You'd need two Yes votes out of the three to trade him. The background of the three indicated that the NBA purchase was just an investment, pump and dump. No one expected them to hold onto the Bucks so long. The other issue is only one owner at a time has final veto power ( i.e. in the event of a tie vote with an abstention) This rotates every few years.
In a resale of the Bucks, a Greek Freak on the team WITH a long term extension signed makes it all the more desirable to drive up the price. Ballmer paid what he did in part because Blake Griffin and Chris Paul were there. If not, do you think he'd pay 2 billion? The resale prices of NBA franchises are skyrocketing. Good for the other owners. The fallout though is very few people left who can outright buy a team. The NBA, like the NFL and MLB, would prefer NOT to have ownership groups. But as the prices go up, and the range of guys they don't want in the league ( like Larry Ellison types) grow larger, the NBA doesn't have much of a choice.
People in the NBA really hated Paul Allen. I think this spurred more discretion in who is seen as a good fit to be a NBA owner or not. The league would certainly not take Mark Cuban now.
If he's up for trade and would sign an extension with the team he was traded too, then aside from Steph Curry and Anthony Davis, every other player and asset would be up for trade by every team in the league. If the Bucks approached the Lakers and said we went LBJ, the Lakers would do it. If the GSW had gotten Durant to sign a longer deal last year, they'd trade Durant. No player outside of Curry and Brow would be untouchable.
Rumors are that Mark Cuban is trying to angle Greek Freak's little brother into his front office ( his pan out rate to be an NBA player isn't great) over the long haul. If Greek Freak is a free agent and shopping around, if it gets to that point. He might end up a Maverick.
If Greek Freak wanted to be a Knick, Zinger would have to go in the trade. The rental price for Greek Freak from other non Knicks teams, if it got that desperate, would be worth more than any non Zinger package.
I would laugh for four years straight if the Lakers sent LBJ packing at the deadline for Greek Freak. LBJ signed a four year deal, the last year is an option year for him, but at his age profile, he'd be hard pressed to opt out. Because LBJ has no previous service time with the Lakers, he could not get a NTC. He could refuse to report, like Zo Mourning did to the Raptors. Except this would ignite small market owners versus big market owners, and the deeper issue of expanded revenue sharing. Big market owners want none of that, would **** down the networks throats, who would **** down Nike's throat, who would **** down LBJ's throat. LBJ would literally have to retire or be a Buck.
When stars never get traded for equal on-court value. We just saw Kawhi Leonard (a top-5 player when healthy according to experts) moved for a guy that is a fringe all-star that is inefficient. What leads you to believe that the offers for Giannis will be so overwhelming that we could not put together a package? What would the best package realistically look like?
I understand the ownership dynamics at play might complicate things. Seems that is how the Hawks ended up losing Al Horford and Paul Millsap for nothing despite the outcome being pretty clear. But with stuff like that as a cautionary tale and Giannis' impending free agency, I presume an ownership team would be inclined to recoup value while they still have leverage.
8/4/2018 2:53 PM