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7/26/2018  8:06 PM
TheGame wrote:It only seems logical that the Knicks would make Frank the starting pg, and by February, we should know if he has enough skills to competently run the team.

It ain't logical if he doesn't earn it!

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7/27/2018  5:28 AM
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TheGame wrote:It only seems logical that the Knicks would make Frank the starting pg, and by February, we should know if he has enough skills to competently run the team.

It ain't logical if he doesn't earn it!

The two weaknesses I saw from Frank last year were high turnovers and lack of aggression on offense. He spent the summer working on his handles and the summer league games showed he has improved in cutting down on bad turnovers. Regarding offense, he looks better and I feel he is going to score 13-15 pts a game as a starter this year. Mudiay is trash and Burke is always going to be limited as a defender. So Frank right now is the best pg option. Plus, logically, the Knicks need to figure out if this kid can be the future pg or whether they need to keep looking. As Frank is the best defender on the team. You want to give him starters minutes, so you either start him at point or at small forward, but having him on the bench while opposing point guards overpower Burke makes no sense and I think we have all had our fill of Mudiay starting.

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7/27/2018  7:05 AM
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Uptown wrote:
TheGame wrote:It only seems logical that the Knicks would make Frank the starting pg, and by February, we should know if he has enough skills to competently run the team.

It ain't logical if he doesn't earn it!

The two weaknesses I saw from Frank last year were high turnovers and lack of aggression on offense. He spent the summer working on his handles and the summer league games showed he has improved in cutting down on bad turnovers. Regarding offense, he looks better and I feel he is going to score 13-15 pts a game as a starter this year. Mudiay is trash and Burke is always going to be limited as a defender. So Frank right now is the best pg option. Plus, logically, the Knicks need to figure out if this kid can be the future pg or whether they need to keep looking. As Frank is the best defender on the team. You want to give him starters minutes, so you either start him at point or at small forward, but having him on the bench while opposing point guards overpower Burke makes no sense and I think we have all had our fill of Mudiay starting.

I think one of the Arizona guards will take mudiay place. Trier or Allen

I doubt Frank will ever average 15pts a game. .. but that's ok. As long as he becomes a lock down defender who's also unselfish and keeps the ball moving.... hes fine. Anything more is a plus.

I think Burke was the best PG last year....But both frank and burke right now are solid backups. one of them will fill the void at PG. Next season I'm guessing both will come off the bench if we can land a solid PG in free agency.....or decide if a PG is needed after watch burke and Frank for another year.

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7/27/2018  9:48 AM
TheGame wrote:
Uptown wrote:
TheGame wrote:It only seems logical that the Knicks would make Frank the starting pg, and by February, we should know if he has enough skills to competently run the team.

It ain't logical if he doesn't earn it!

The two weaknesses I saw from Frank last year were high turnovers and lack of aggression on offense. He spent the summer working on his handles and the summer league games showed he has improved in cutting down on bad turnovers. Regarding offense, he looks better and I feel he is going to score 13-15 pts a game as a starter this year. Mudiay is trash and Burke is always going to be limited as a defender. So Frank right now is the best pg option. Plus, logically, the Knicks need to figure out if this kid can be the future pg or whether they need to keep looking. As Frank is the best defender on the team. You want to give him starters minutes, so you either start him at point or at small forward, but having him on the bench while opposing point guards overpower Burke makes no sense and I think we have all had our fill of Mudiay starting.

I don't think the Knicks see Frank as a full time point guard. He doesn't put pressure on the defense when he is running the team. We saw that all of last year and for the first of the two summer league games he played. The Knicks may continue to give him minutes at the point in preseason and maybe even during next season but I think he will get most of his minutes off the ball like he did at the end of last season.
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Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.
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7/27/2018  11:40 AM
Lots of If's.
Kid is young. I don't have him pegged as anything. For all I know he grows to 6-7 and fills out to be a Small forward. in two years.
High IQ, more than willing to pass. Good rebounder and defender.
Recall he statistically was quite good in Steals!!!
Offensive aggression he needs work on. I agree with all the "Questions". I just don't agree with "He won't/Can't" and some of you have pegged his trajectory. Or lack of one.
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7/27/2018  12:24 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

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7/27/2018  1:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/27/2018  4:29 PM
I'd make an argument that Frank Ntilikina is ALREADY worth a 10m/yr, if not more. (he'll cost the Knicks $4.1m this coming season)

Here are a few defensive-oriented comps and their contracts:
Andre Roberson - 3yrs/$30m - the highest scoring average of his career is 6.6ppg; career .257% 3pt shooter (he covers this by rarely shooting from the perimeter, making him a spacing vacuum)
Robert Covington - 4yrs/$62m - career .399 FG% (to be fair, he probably mostly takes 3's; his 3pt % is .358%!)
Marcus Smart - 4yrs/$53m - career .360%fg, .293 %3pt. (Smart has fairly beefy career assist and rebounding numbers, averaging close to 4/gm for each over 29mpg)

If he shows even mild improvement on offense (let's say 40%fg, 33% 3pt%), he's going to be worth $15m+/yr after his rookie contract as he'll still be so young and teams will still bet on even more upside.

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7/27/2018  1:43 PM
Smart plays almost 30 min a gave vs. 21 avg for frank.
Nitty's pt avg was climbing by seasons end to 5.9 vs. 10 for smart, Assists 4.8 vs. 3.2 for frank. Smart Avg 50% more minutes a game.
Good comparison.
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7/27/2018  3:52 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.

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7/27/2018  4:42 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.


offensive stats
donovan mitchell - 33.5 mins - 20 pts - 3.7 assists 2.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.37
dennis smith jr - 30 mins - 15 pts - 5.2 assists 2.8 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.85
frank ntilikina - 22 mins - 6 pts - 3.2 assists 1.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.88

mitchell 22
dsjr - 21
frank - 19

so yes go ahead and think what you want. but this FO is going to be patient with a 19 year old kid who has already shown flashes of brilliance on the court and didn't mind standing up to the best player in the NBA. he has the IT factor and you cannot teach that.

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7/27/2018  4:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/27/2018  4:56 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.


offensive stats
donovan mitchell - 33.5 mins - 20 pts - 3.7 assists 2.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.37
dennis smith jr - 30 mins - 15 pts - 5.2 assists 2.8 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.85
frank ntilikina - 22 mins - 6 pts - 3.2 assists 1.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.88

mitchell 22
dsjr - 21
frank - 19

so yes go ahead and think what you want. but this FO is going to be patient with a 19 year old kid who has already shown flashes of brilliance on the court and didn't mind standing up to the best player in the NBA. he has the IT factor and you cannot teach that.

DSJ is 20. Mitchell is 21. Pretty sure DSJ and DM had a better handle, and were more aggressive ballers at the same age.

Different backgrounds, maybe different mindset when it comes to scoring. Thats what we should find out this season.

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7/27/2018  4:56 PM
How much better do you want him to be? :) I've just argued he'll be (easily) worth $10/yr when his rookie contract ends.

If he gains a little bit of an edge to his "rookie" game, he can be a truly special player - we might even mention him in the same breath as Donovan Mitchell. Ntilikina is turning 20 TOMORROW (7/28). At least from an age perspective, going into his 2nd season, he'll still be 10 months younger than Mitchell was as a rookie.

AND... Ntilikina is 6'6" now. You can't teach height. I bet his wingspan grew at least half an inch too.

In all seriousness, I just realized San Antonio's Dejounte Murray was part of the All-NBA 2nd team as a second year player. Yep, another tall, long PG-hybrid. He only averaged 21.5mpg! If there's a Vegas bet for Ntilikina getting on an all-D team in 2018-2019, I'd put money on it. He just needs more hype.

Here's a link to the voting:
https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2018/06/2017-18-all-defensive-voting-totals.pdf

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7/27/2018  5:01 PM
technomaster wrote:How much better do you want him to be? :) I've just argued he'll be (easily) worth $10/yr when his rookie contract ends.

If he gains a little bit of an edge to his "rookie" game, he can be a truly special player - we might even mention him in the same breath as Donovan Mitchell. Ntilikina is turning 20 TOMORROW (7/28). At least from an age perspective, going into his 2nd season, he'll still be 10 months younger than Mitchell was as a rookie.

AND... Ntilikina is 6'6" now. You can't teach height. I bet his wingspan grew at least half an inch too.

In all seriousness, I just realized San Antonio's Dejounte Murray was part of the All-NBA 2nd team as a second year player. Yep, another tall, long PG-hybrid. He only averaged 21.5mpg! If there's a Vegas bet for Ntilikina getting on an all-D team in 2018-2019, I'd put money on it. He just needs more hype.

Here's a link to the voting:
https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/46/2018/06/2017-18-all-defensive-voting-totals.pdf

When I can get through games without yelling at the screen "shoot Frank shoot!" for most of his time on the court. Ill know he's getting better in that dept.

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7/27/2018  5:02 PM
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BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.


Not making excuses. Just giving a balanced take on where Frank stands. Look up Scottie Pippens stats. He increased his scoring aggressiveness. Look up Jeff Hornacek's aggressiveness from his rookie year to his third and fourth year. I can go on and on. But to say that players can't become more aggressive offensively isn't true. Some players do, some players don't. Sometime it goes the other way. A player might come into the league to shot happy and they learn to settle down. There are no absolutes. It's possible to say what Frank is at this point.
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7/27/2018  7:50 PM
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nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

Lack of explosiveness doesn't mean you can't be a PG. Grevious Vasquez once led the NBA in assists and was pretty darn slow. But the combination of all the others does. Explosiveness is more than just physically moving into the paint area as well. Why try and force him into the PG slot if Burke or whoever can run the offense better? It just seems stubborn and hampers the development of everyone else on the team.

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7/27/2018  8:47 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.


offensive stats
donovan mitchell - 33.5 mins - 20 pts - 3.7 assists 2.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.37
dennis smith jr - 30 mins - 15 pts - 5.2 assists 2.8 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.85
frank ntilikina - 22 mins - 6 pts - 3.2 assists 1.7 TOs - assist to turnover ratio - 1.88

mitchell 22
dsjr - 21
frank - 19

so yes go ahead and think what you want. but this FO is going to be patient with a 19 year old kid who has already shown flashes of brilliance on the court and didn't mind standing up to the best player in the NBA. he has the IT factor and you cannot teach that.

DSJ is 20. Mitchell is 21. Pretty sure DSJ and DM had a better handle, and were more aggressive ballers at the same age.

Different backgrounds, maybe different mindset when it comes to scoring. Thats what we should find out this season.

Frank turns 20 tomorrow.
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7/28/2018  4:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/28/2018  10:03 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nykshaknbake wrote:Not really we know he can D up already. But if the opposing team doesn't have to worry about the lead guard penetrating or shooting it still means he's a specialist off the bench. If he can develop a decent 3 and confidence he'll make a very good SG...even a star. He can't be the lead guard...his handles are bad, he turns it over at a ferocious rate and he doesn't have the explosiveness to collapse the defense.

I think the explosiveness thing is overblown. He's shown he can get in the paint when he wants. Doesn't matter how he does it. I expect the three to get better. He was slightly below average, which is common for most Euros in their first year. I think Chris Herring wrote a good article a couple of years ago. Plus, Frank shot 38 % from the corner three, which shows-at the minimum-he should be able to carry a 3@D role in the future. That number is close to what Bruce Bowen shot for his career. The turnovers we're bad, but that's common for nearly every rookie guard. I think the key here for him is aggressiveness. We also need to see major improvement in the mid-range are, which he showed in the second summer league game this year. He doesn't necessarily need to be more explosive, he just needs to learn how to take advantage of his length inside. I'm not sure I need to see Frank start this season. I just want to see improvement and consistent minutes.

The excuses for this kid are getting ridiculous.

Lee can get to the paint when he wants, but does he do it into his 11th season. Dude made 53 straight FT, but went 4 games without taking 1 in the middle of that streak. As efficient as lee was, we all wanted him to shoot more, draw contact, be aggressive, and he just doesn't do it all that much.

Some players are who they are no matter the potential to do more.

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7/29/2018  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/29/2018  11:29 AM
IMO, Frank just needs to develop the mindset that this is his team and he is going to take it where it needs to go. Distribute the ball but don't be so worried about getting everyone their shots that he is not getting his shots. The summer league showed that he has worked on using his height to score by backing down smaller guards and then shooting over them. He has to carry that same aggression into the regular season and stop deferring to other guys so much. Once he develops that mindset, all these other issues will take care of themselves. The kid defends, he can shoot, he can finish with either hand, and he has a post up game and a decent cross over. There is really not much this kid cannot do other than he does not have explosive athleticism, but he is athletic. We just need to be patient.
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7/29/2018  12:12 PM
TheGame wrote:IMO, Frank just needs to develop the mindset that this is his team and he is going to take it where it needs to go. Distribute the ball but don't be so worried about getting everyone their shots that he is not getting his shots. The summer league showed that he has worked on using his height to score by backing down smaller guards and then shooting over them. He has to carry that same aggression into the regular season and stop deferring to other guys so much. Once he develops that mindset, all these other issues will take care of themselves. The kid defends, he can shoot, he can finish with either hand, and he has a post up game and a decent cross over. There is really not much this kid cannot do other than he does not have explosive athleticism, but he is athletic. We just need to be patient.

It's probably going to happen naturally with him getting more experience and the squad getting younger. He's still one of the young guys, but there are less vets on the roster now compared to the previous season and he's got one full season under his belt. We should see a more confident and less deferent Frank this season. 10ppg, a better shooting %, more penetration leading to drawing more FTs and very good defense is what I'm hoping for.

If Frank makes the NBA all defensive team......

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