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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/23/2018 11:10 AM
KNICKS COULD FULFILL CONTENDER STATUS BY REALIZING HOMEGROWN TALENT, NOT SELLING OUT FOR PRESTIGIOUS FREE AGENThttps://theknickswall.com/realizing-homegrown-talent-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving/ I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29862 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
7/24/2018 12:24 PM
I'm still tryna figure out what happen with Sprewell?
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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TheGame
Posts: 26586 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/27/2018 5:42 AM LAST EDITED: 7/27/2018 6:07 AM
TripleThreat wrote:fishmike wrote:The question is what makes more sense. Hardaway at $17mm? Or Klay Thompson at $35-40mm? When you are done humping robots come back to me and talk about whether or $200 million dollars (GS's luxury tax this year) matters to a wealthy owner. Can they do better than THjr? Maybe... depends on the $$ and other pieces involved. TT, you are missing my point. If Klay Thompson says I am going to the Knicks as a FA, which is what he is going to be this summer, then the Warriors have a choice. They either let him walk for nothing or they take a package like Hardaway and a second rounder for Thompson. We have the leverage so we don't have to give up much. So the only thing is whether the Warriors value Hardaway. They are going to save a boatload ofccash because the Warriors are deep in the luxury tax so the difference in cost between Hardaway and thompson might be over $35 mil per year. That is my point. I was not saying that Hardaway is as good as Thompson. I am saying Hardaway is good enough that they might prefer taking him over losing Thompson for nothing. The other thing you have to realize is that the Warriors are over the cap, so it is not like if they lose Thompson they are going to be able to use cap space to sign another good shooting guard. They would be limited to guys willing to sit for the MLE. Now maybe they try to trade Thompson during the year. But I honestly think they are going to be more focused on winning another championship with Thompson. Trust the Process
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
7/27/2018 9:21 AM
If they miss at Klay I rather they go for Randle and if he plays well keep Supper Mario
Frank Bench Is a playoff 9 man rotation with lots of room to grow into something special. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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TheGame
Posts: 26586 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/28/2018 9:23 AM
TripleThreat wrote:TheGame wrote:TripleThreat wrote:fishmike wrote:The question is what makes more sense. Hardaway at $17mm? Or Klay Thompson at $35-40mm? When you are done humping robots come back to me and talk about whether or $200 million dollars (GS's luxury tax this year) matters to a wealthy owner. Can they do better than THjr? Maybe... depends on the $$ and other pieces involved. No you are still missing my point because you are operating under the assumption that Golden State controls where Thompson goes. That is true during the season but after the season, Thompson controls where he goes and if he decides he wants to sign with the Knicks then Golden Stateneither loses him for nothing or takes a trade with the Knicks as their only option to get compensation for Klay. I am not as convinced that Golden State would have no interest in Hardaway. A lot will depend on how Hardaway looks this year. If he improves his efficiency and scores around 19-20 per game then he would be earning right around what other shooting guards with his skill set are getting. Now if he looks to be inefficient again this season, then I would agree that the Warriors would probably pass. Trust the Process
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TheGame
Posts: 26586 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/28/2018 11:05 AM LAST EDITED: 7/28/2018 11:09 AM
TripleThreat wrote:TheGame wrote:TripleThreat wrote:TheGame wrote:TripleThreat wrote:fishmike wrote:The question is what makes more sense. Hardaway at $17mm? Or Klay Thompson at $35-40mm? When you are done humping robots come back to me and talk about whether or $200 million dollars (GS's luxury tax this year) matters to a wealthy owner. Can they do better than THjr? Maybe... depends on the $$ and other pieces involved. Well everyone has their opinion but the leverage of bird rights is irrelevant. You misapprehend their application in free agency. Thompson would be an unrestricted FA, and thus, we would have to sign him with cap space or do a sign and trade. Thompson is going to get the max so the only leverage the Warriors have is the ability to offer 5 years over four years and we might not even want to offer five years. The value of Hardaway will be determined this year. Last year he showed he was a better player than his first stint here and there are several shooting guards who I would consider inferior earning similar money. And if you think the Warriors can lose Klay Thompson and everything is just going to be alright then you have not been watching the games. Thompson is a major piece of their team and they are going to need to replace that production with someone who can create their own shot. No one questions that the Warriors could get a better deal for Thompson if they traded him before the trade deadline or that they might have concerns with Hardaway, but Hardaway is a solid shooting guard that would cost them about $34 million less a year than Thompson when you factor in luxury tax. If Kyle says I am going to go play for the Knicks then the Warriors are going to have limited options. Perhaps they would rather lose thompson for nothing and save in their tax bill, but that is going to be a loss that will hurt their team's chances in the playoffs. It really depends on who else they can get to replace Thompson as compared to Hardaway and his contract. Trust the Process
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25243 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
7/28/2018 8:25 PM LAST EDITED: 7/28/2018 8:26 PM
fishmike wrote:TripleThreat wrote:You need a hobby. The question is what makes more sense. Hardaway at $17mm? Or Klay Thompson at $35-40mm? When you are done humping robots come back to me and talk about whether or $200 million dollars (GS's luxury tax this year) matters to a wealthy owner. Can they do better than THjr? Maybe... depends on the $$ and other pieces involved.TheGame wrote:I would love to turn Hardaway into Thompson. I think that is the upgrade on offense and defense that we need and I can see the Warriors viewing Hardaway as a decent cheaper replacement for Thompson. Actually in a trade Hardaway Jr will cost them 21 million and 22 million. The Warriors would rather have nothing than to take Tim Hardaway Jr, now our 2019 draft pick thats another story Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
7/28/2018 11:27 PM
Getting back to the original topic there is no single answer to the question what is better to win by building from within of by assembling supper team.
Some people like the process, some like the results, some like both. To me supper team business is a lottery scam when one can buy million lottery tickets and sometimes claim the win. Building from within is lining up everything for lucky day which should eventually come... most of the time. And building the team from withing is not prohibiting on upgrading to supper team. And Warriors are exactly the organization which took this path. That's why they build the Dynasty. So if some group of smart people look at this why would they not take on the same blueprint? Looks like Knicks new leadership team does just that. And not only Knicks team. This is the profound influence Warriors made on our days NBA. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Jmpasq
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7/28/2018 11:44 PM LAST EDITED: 7/28/2018 11:45 PM
arkrud wrote:Getting back to the original topic there is no single answer to the question what is better to win by building from within of by assembling supper team. The best way to build a team to maximize bird rights and the cap is to get a bunch of lottery picks in a 4 year span and before you pay them what their worth you sign Max FA's. You than have a base of talent so the team isn't top heavy. You than an go over the cap to keep your home grown draft picks Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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