TripleThreat wrote:knicks1248 wrote:
I'm sorry, who on the Knicks played good defense under JH and Rambust. Last time i heard, fiz isn't looking for a traditional pg in his system.
lets be honest, for a every team there are about 2 or 3 solid defenders, the rest are halfway decent,but the system and philosophy is what matters most. we had almost no atlectic players on the roster last season other than KP(half of season)THJ (miss 2 months) and troy.
Do we have a better option ahead of him?
when you say he looks for his shot way to much, do you mean more then CURRY,IRVING, WESTBROOK, CP3, ect, the average to above average Guard in the NBA takes 17 to 20 shots per game, burke avg 13 attempts.
can we also add the way they jerked him around with his minutes and role on the team, 15 min one game, 41 the next, no minutes the next, 20 minutes the next, started the next, played in only the 4th qtr the next game..cmon dude, give him a break.
Burke could play under Pop, Stevens, Atkinson, Spolestra. He could play for a mix of Chuck Daly brought back from the dead and Coach K along with some Terminator parts and he'd still be a lousy net negative defender.
"System and philosophy" can hide a player if
A) He can at least defend at a league average level for his position
or more rarely
B) The other 4 guys are plus defenders, with one at least a legit yearly DPOY candidate
"Better options" will depend on who gets bought out, who gets cut and what's left in Tier 5 of free agency before the season starts.
Burke looks for his own shot too much considering GAME FLOW. His job is to run the offense, not just run his own individual offense. A point guard might take 20 shots in a game. Or he might take 5. Depends on what the defense is giving you and the matchups for your entire team. Burke has shown to be able to play exactly one way. Which is be a chucker. He is not efficient enough on offense nor dominant enough to play his style of ball all the time. If you want to compare him to future HOF players, have at it. If you can't see the difference between four future HOF players and Burke, then no one can help you.
He was AVAILABLE FOR A REASON. Every other team had a chance at him when he was a free agent and NO ONE WANTED HIM. What does that tell you?
He might be a better option RIGHT NOW than some other options, but he might not be and likely would not be the option that offers the most potential for the future, however slight.
A 20 year old UDFA with no real NBA game experience might not give you what Burke can give you for a few games, but over the LONG HAUL, there's at least potential for that 20 year old to make leaps in his development. At this point, what you see is about what you get with Burke.
There is AN ACTUAL OPPORTUNITY COST ASSOCIATED WITH EVERY ROSTER SPOT AND EVERY MINUTE YOU CAN HAVE A PLAYER ON THE FLOOR OR NOT.
Someone will say, but the Knicks can raise his trade value! A ball dominant chucker who is a zero on defense and lacks true NBA length and athleticism. If they wanted him, other teams, they would have gotten him for FREE, why then trade for him? Esp when they will have other trade options and signing guys who were bought out?
Your not doing your home work dude, burke had 3 to 4 teams interested in him, but he chose the knicks G league to develop his game. Thats what I love about his story
“It was a path I chose, I had offers coming into this season, but I think I wanted to recreate myself,” Burke told Basketball Insiders. “[And] show what I can do on a consistent basis, night in, night out, with consistent minutes, so that’s why I chose that route.”
There are very few 20 point scoring guards who are efficient. When your minutes are erratic, so will your game. Frank and Lance barely ever shot the ball even when wide open, and Lee(as efficient as he was) also turned down good open looks, it was actually a breath of fresh air seeing burke play aggressive and look for his shot., like most pg's today.
There's no way in hell I'm starting frank or Mudiay(both shoot below 40% if your talk efficiet) over bukre, unless they come to camp and flat out crush it.
Most players game is what it is once they get to the NBA, they just get stronger, faster and smarter.
your not a chuker when you shoot 50% frrm 2's and 36%(league avg) from 3, and only take 13 shots. i guess you feel that after 3 yrs in the NBA there's no hope for a player, I guess we can't expect much more from kp uh?