newyorker4ever wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

Well both KP and Mitchell won't be needed to play full time center since Kanter will be our full time center next year so Mitchell has a full year to work on his game and put weight on. I'm sure he's still gonna get some playing time with the Knicks since Fiz already said he's good with playing the young guys but he needs to play plenty of g-league as well.

A season of watching a post player like Kanter work, will be a good education. Defensive issues aside. Hope Kanter tries to help Robinson with his post moves. KP as well. Too bad Hakeem doesnt offer his services outside the Rockets anymore.

At least the G League Knicks is starting to make inroads developing players.

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

His limited offensive skills is why I say its important that we get a real playmaker in the backcourt that can help Robinson excel in his strengths which is catching lobs and finishing similar to Tyson Chandler....Hopefully Trey Burke can be that playmaker we need....Mos Def love the idea of a Kentucky pipeline....Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns had way more offensive skills in the the bag than they showed in college. Coach Cal mentioned that Knox has skills than he showed in college...We will see...

Don't know why, but people are really sleeping on Trey Burke. This guy is my exact size, so I understand when you have a combination of speed, first step, with a mid range. Yes, he's a backup talent...But his strength is being a playmaker. If you watch, he can basically score from anywhere on the court, especially mid range. So he's always putting pressure on the defense. Now we add Knox who can play on or off the ball....Something I wish Melo could do.

I think in the beginning of the season, people will be very surprised at how successful we might start the season. Look how many former PGs we have on the staff, including Fiz. Now look at how many PGs we have on the roster. Now take a look at who we drafted. This is startingng to look like a PG trade study....or a challenge.....See if they can turn one of these PGs into an NBA starter.

Mudiay
Frank
Burke
THj
Lee
Dotson
Trier

We have a glut of PGs and SGs.....Positionless??

I think about 10 years ago, I said the NBA will be just Guards and Forwards

BTW....Burke is the only guard on the roster with a combination of PG handles and SG offense.

Not sleeping on Burke at all....I was calling for him to start while he was sitting on the bench waiting his turn. In my eyes, he should be our starting pg next yr...Last year, Burke showed more of a scorer's mentality when coming off that pick and roll....He would pull up for the mid-range which was money, but with Robinson, at times he needs to penetrate a step deeper and recognize Robinson rolling to the hoop...

Exactly....

Burke is the mid range version of Trey Young. Hopefully with a solid year last year and a slew of PG coaches on hand, he should be able to work well with bigs, since we never had that type. KP did it a little, but more with his pick and pop game. Mitchell is the type that can get you easy transition buckets. The goal is to allow Mitchell to take the tough assignments of using his fouls or banging against big, saving KP from too much physical contact, as he works his way back.

I have high hopes that between Trey Burke and Mudiay....one of those guys will take a few steps forward....throw in Frank as well, since he's now a positionless player under Fiz.

blkexec wrote:

blkexec wrote:If you watch the press conference, notice how Perry said we had some intel from former NBA players working close to Robinson. People in my circle of friends still don't believe me what I tell them I play with all these former NBA players and current football players. So when Perry said that, I already knew a few guys that probably gave him some insight.

I know his former girlfriend, and she broke it down for me. He didn't run with the weed smokers in the gym and for the most part, was on the side working out. But the pickup games he played in was during a time when most pro athletes go.....Thats when I saw him in person. But when he said he works out 9-5, thats bull.....but you have to try and say something positive. He has a LONG WAY to go in the maturity column. I hope he works out....I played with some bone head should've been in the NBA type players all the time. Few stick like Gilbert Areanas (played against him in AZ)....others don't.

I'm 45 now...still play with semi pro athletes, nba former players and young up and coming athletes. But don't get it twisted....I had a 3 yr window of a chance (age 28-33 late bloomer) to play in an nba summer league by invite from a former nba player at that time. Now I'm only around these guys because of my gym.....Expensive as hell, but it's the top choice for ALL PRO ATHLETES. If you are ever in plano or allen texas, I get free passes all the time as a memeber.

blkexec wrote:

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

His limited offensive skills is why I say its important that we get a real playmaker in the backcourt that can help Robinson excel in his strengths which is catching lobs and finishing similar to Tyson Chandler....Hopefully Trey Burke can be that playmaker we need....Mos Def love the idea of a Kentucky pipeline....Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns had way more offensive skills in the the bag than they showed in college. Coach Cal mentioned that Knox has skills than he showed in college...We will see...

Don't know why, but people are really sleeping on Trey Burke. This guy is my exact size, so I understand when you have a combination of speed, first step, with a mid range. Yes, he's a backup talent...But his strength is being a playmaker. If you watch, he can basically score from anywhere on the court, especially mid range. So he's always putting pressure on the defense. Now we add Knox who can play on or off the ball....Something I wish Melo could do.

I think in the beginning of the season, people will be very surprised at how successful we might start the season. Look how many former PGs we have on the staff, including Fiz. Now look at how many PGs we have on the roster. Now take a look at who we drafted. This is startingng to look like a PG trade study....or a challenge.....See if they can turn one of these PGs into an NBA starter.

Mudiay
Frank
Burke
THj
Lee
Dotson
Trier

We have a glut of PGs and SGs.....Positionless??

I think about 10 years ago, I said the NBA will be just Guards and Forwards

BTW....Burke is the only guard on the roster with a combination of PG handles and SG offense.

I think at minimum Burke can be an excellent off the bench spark. He seems to have put his life on the right track and I wouldn't be surprised if he performs even better than he did last season. That's why I wasn't all that hyped about us drafting Tre Young. I feel like we may have a version of Young already on the team.

LivingLegend wrote:

Welpee wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Robinson has $100M size & athleticism but $1 maturity & fundamentals.

Hopefully we can bring the $1 up to the $10M range over next few years. Reminds me of Stromile Swift.

This is so incredibly unfair and ridiculous: 1) how do you even know anything about his fundamentals? Based on a high school all-star game from over a year ago? 2) What level of "maturity" were you expecting from an 18 year old? You probably would've made the same statement out Kevin Garnett based on the circumstances that led to him skipping college and entering the NBA draft. Johnny Manziel is $1 maturity. A kid getting caught up in typical recruiting drama (i.e. head coach takes another job, assistant coach he's close to leaves, second thoughts about wanting to go to a school, etc.) hardly qualifies as "$1 maturity."

Players getting arrested, deciding to get high/drunk or beating up women prior to joining the league are examples of "$1 maturity."

Watch some of his actual HS game tape....BRUTAL fundamentals...I am talking about being clueless defensively, not bothering to cross half court on D. Funny part is he put up 44.

He has a very smooth long distance stroke.

Jmpasq wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

Well both KP and Mitchell won't be needed to play full time center since Kanter will be our full time center next year so Mitchell has a full year to work on his game and put weight on. I'm sure he's still gonna get some playing time with the Knicks since Fiz already said he's good with playing the young guys but he needs to play plenty of g-league as well.

Knicks still need a thicker bodied frontcourt player. I really wish Hardaway jr. wasn't signed because I would love to make an offer to Randle. I would of offered Kanter money. Not sure if that would of gotten it done but that dude is the perfect compliment to KP.

I do wonder where Randle will end up if the Lakers have to renounce him- if you look at the team's with cap space on the Kanter thread, I think the only teams that might be interested would be the Mavs (if they don't land a C, possibly the sixers or hawks. He could get caught out this off season

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

His limited offensive skills is why I say its important that we get a real playmaker in the backcourt that can help Robinson excel in his strengths which is catching lobs and finishing similar to Tyson Chandler....Hopefully Trey Burke can be that playmaker we need....Mos Def love the idea of a Kentucky pipeline....Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns had way more offensive skills in the the bag than they showed in college. Coach Cal mentioned that Knox has skills than he showed in college...We will see...

Don't know why, but people are really sleeping on Trey Burke. This guy is my exact size, so I understand when you have a combination of speed, first step, with a mid range. Yes, he's a backup talent...But his strength is being a playmaker. If you watch, he can basically score from anywhere on the court, especially mid range. So he's always putting pressure on the defense. Now we add Knox who can play on or off the ball....Something I wish Melo could do.

I think in the beginning of the season, people will be very surprised at how successful we might start the season. Look how many former PGs we have on the staff, including Fiz. Now look at how many PGs we have on the roster. Now take a look at who we drafted. This is startingng to look like a PG trade study....or a challenge.....See if they can turn one of these PGs into an NBA starter.

Mudiay
Frank
Burke
THj
Lee
Dotson
Trier

We have a glut of PGs and SGs.....Positionless??

I think about 10 years ago, I said the NBA will be just Guards and Forwards

BTW....Burke is the only guard on the roster with a combination of PG handles and SG offense.

There were a ton of people sleeping on Burke when he was lighting up the G-league last season. People on this board were begging the Knicks to at least give the kid a look and he was dismissed as garbage by several people.

I think at minimum Burke can be an excellent off the bench spark. He seems to have put his life on the right track and I wouldn't be surprised if he performs even better than he did last season. That's why I wasn't all that hyped about us drafting Tre Young. I feel like we may have a version of Young already on the team.

I was one of the ones supporting T.Burke the whole way and still do and think he's still being way underestimated by many Knicks fans. I think he'd be a great backup PG but could easily start as well if you put the right players around him. I don't see him as a version of T.Young though and more like a Kemba Walker type and actually think he can do anything Kemba can do if a team gave him kind of minutes/playing time that Kemba gets.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:Can’t wait to see a line up of the future.

Frank
Dotson
Knox
KP
Robinson

I think we struck gold in this years draft Knox has a real chance to be a star in this league, Robinson was the third best talent behind Deandre and Bamba coming out of high school he too might become a foundational player.

Bench:
Burke,Mudiay
Thjr,Baker
Troy,hicks
Beasley, ?
Kanter, Kornet

One can only hope that’s how good our draft picks work out. look how it worked out for the Yankees, again fingers crossed

My only concern is Robinson is similar to KP on defense. Both players are not ready for full time center against strong defenders. BUT....If I was coaching, I rather have Robinson at center, with KP helping. And to have a 6'9 Knox as your SF, it's as simple as together they are stronger, and can make up for any lack of strength, with their length.

KP 7'3
Mitchell 7'0
Knox 6'9

Thats a lot of height that most teams will have to go against. If we play a team with limited jump shooters, it's over. KP and Mitchell are legit shot blockers.....If he sticks, I can see this combination of players deadly on both ends. Mitchell needs to work on offense, but he can be that clean up, blind side defense / lob guy right now. Summer league will really determine Mitchells fate....Best case right now is G league first.

I went to the gym consistently at lunch when they play ball and only saw him a few times....maybe 3. So when he said I workout 9-5....yeah ok. lol...you can fool the press all you want....I hope he matures quick....NY will chew him up if he doesnt develop fast (unfortunately). So far I think he did well answering those questions. Not worried about Knox....Calipari and Kentucky prepares future NBA players well. I can see a Kentucky to Knicks pipeline developing, based on clues from the press conference.

His limited offensive skills is why I say its important that we get a real playmaker in the backcourt that can help Robinson excel in his strengths which is catching lobs and finishing similar to Tyson Chandler....Hopefully Trey Burke can be that playmaker we need....Mos Def love the idea of a Kentucky pipeline....Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns had way more offensive skills in the the bag than they showed in college. Coach Cal mentioned that Knox has skills than he showed in college...We will see...

Don't know why, but people are really sleeping on Trey Burke. This guy is my exact size, so I understand when you have a combination of speed, first step, with a mid range. Yes, he's a backup talent...But his strength is being a playmaker. If you watch, he can basically score from anywhere on the court, especially mid range. So he's always putting pressure on the defense. Now we add Knox who can play on or off the ball....Something I wish Melo could do.

I think in the beginning of the season, people will be very surprised at how successful we might start the season. Look how many former PGs we have on the staff, including Fiz. Now look at how many PGs we have on the roster. Now take a look at who we drafted. This is startingng to look like a PG trade study....or a challenge.....See if they can turn one of these PGs into an NBA starter.

Mudiay
Frank
Burke
THj
Lee
Dotson
Trier

We have a glut of PGs and SGs.....Positionless??

I think about 10 years ago, I said the NBA will be just Guards and Forwards

BTW....Burke is the only guard on the roster with a combination of PG handles and SG offense.

There were a ton of people sleeping on Burke when he was lighting up the G-league last season. People on this board were begging the Knicks to at least give the kid a look and he was dismissed as garbage by several people.

I think at minimum Burke can be an excellent off the bench spark. He seems to have put his life on the right track and I wouldn't be surprised if he performs even better than he did last season. That's why I wasn't all that hyped about us drafting Tre Young. I feel like we may have a version of Young already on the team.

I was one of the ones supporting T.Burke the whole way and still do and think he's still being way underestimated by many Knicks fans. I think he'd be a great backup PG but could easily start as well if you put the right players around him. I don't see him as a version of T.Young though and more like a Kemba Walker type and actually think he can do anything Kemba can do if a team gave him kind of minutes/playing time that Kemba gets.