TripleThreat wrote:fishmike wrote:TripleThreat wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Right now Trier is playing like he belongs. If he could show some skill as a distributor down the road, that would really be something.
Trier is a chucker.
See... this tells me you have not watched preseason. At least youtube his highlights and come back to us.Trier has established himself as an excellent basket attacker and finisher. Yes he's hit his 3s so is that sustainable? But the rest aint chucking. IF you think so your talking ****. Thats a guy using the threat of his drive to create space and using that space to knock down jumpers like he's in a gym. Defense will adjust sure and Trier has plenty to prove, but chucker? Not so far. Not at all.
I've watched plenty of Trier this year and in previous years.
I'm considering his entire body of work in his career thus far, not just a handful of games, many of which will not approximate what he will see in live mid season NBA action.
My take is a few games does not outweigh the scope of everything he's shown thus far. Everything. His Arizona days and everything up until now. My opinion.
If you want to take the opinion that a few days/games overshadows everything in the past, that's your opinion, your right to it.
Sometimes players do change. IT'S VERY VERY VERY VERY RARE.
One day, you could be right. But the odds are against it. You'll never actually admit that.
One day, I could be right. The odds are dramatically weighed on my end. Trier is a fringe player for a reason. That he's still in contention for a roster spot says more about the Knicks overall talent situation than it does about Trier.
I want Trier to succeed. I want the Knicks to win. But odds are he won't. I'm not going to deny basic marketplace reality over a couple of games. Of course he's putting in full effort, he's a fringe guy fighting for a roster spot. Many other times I've seen him though, the effort was inconsistent. Show it your entire career ( i.e. Patrick Beverley) then you can label a guy a high energy guy. Do it sometimes when you want to make the team, and it's nice, but not an indicator of long term behavior.
It's nice to have a guy who can, at times, create his own shot. But still in the context of a free flowing team offense and knowing when to turn that off and on. Trier only plays one way. He's gotta show he can adapt consistently to really help this team.
Two thoughts:
1) perhaps different motivation now. Not a coddled college player. Now it's shape up, or play overseas
2) I didn't watch him in college but I see a lot of driving to the hope, not pure chucking. Our team sorely needs someone to pressure the D, draw fouls (still the most efficient way to score by a wide marging -- even with modern ball analytics etc.) (Not to go off on a tangent, but I've long ranted about a quasi corrupt NBA which is effectuated by refs simply having a quicker whistle sometimes than others. Shooting free throws you're looking at an expected net increase of 1.4-1.6 for foul in the act of shooting a two pointer, compare that to roughly 1 for non-call, or 1.2ish for a three point attempt from a good shooter). You only need a few bad whistles to turn a game)
If nothing else a guy like Trier can keep the refs honest