So, I'd say for the Knicks, where there's a general lack of talent, the age-old strategy of "best player available" suits here. The Knicks need to increase the overall talent of their top rotation players. I don't believe Knox will be the best player available at 9, so it may be a poor choice to take him at that slot.

The clip on the bottom of page 1, started watching at the 3 minute mark. Nice handle for a big, and using it effectively to get through traffic. Almost like a checkers move,lol.

Would be another big who knows how to play small, like KP. We get enough of that type of player on the roster, and teams are going to have a hard time matching up.

Dont know about Knox's D. If its decent, I wouldnt have a problem with Knox being selected, based on this limited info. Also depends who is available at 9. Would rather draft Knox than Mikal Bridges, or Porter jr.

GustavBahler wrote:There is a good article on P&T about Knox on the front page. When we hear the details of what Perry/Mills think of a potential pick, you hope its not Walsh all over again, as others have brought up.

The clip on the bottom of page 1, started watching at the 3 minute mark. Nice handle for a big, and using it effectively to get through traffic. Almost like a checkers move,lol.

Would be another big who knows how to play small, like KP. We get enough of that type of player on the roster, and teams are going to have a hard time matching up.

Dont know about Knox's D. If its decent, I wouldnt have a problem with Knox being selected, based on this limited info. Also depends who is available at 9. Would rather draft Knox than Mikal Bridges, or Porter jr.

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:There is a good article on P&T about Knox on the front page. When we hear the details of what Perry/Mills think of a potential pick, you hope its not Walsh all over again, as others have brought up.

The clip on the bottom of page 1, started watching at the 3 minute mark. Nice handle for a big, and using it effectively to get through traffic. Almost like a checkers move,lol.

Would be another big who knows how to play small, like KP. We get enough of that type of player on the roster, and teams are going to have a hard time matching up.

Dont know about Knox's D. If its decent, I wouldnt have a problem with Knox being selected, based on this limited info. Also depends who is available at 9. Would rather draft Knox than Mikal Bridges, or Porter jr.

I agree with all of your points. I do like Miles at 9 but the front office has been thorough and had Knox and Miles go against each other in their workout.

My main concern with Knox is that he is built to look good in a workout. The knocks against him come more from being in a team setting. Like lack of motor and loses focus if he isn't the feature. Does he have the quickness to guard the perimeter or is he best as a PF. For his size and length his 5 rebounds per game is pretty trash. And he offered limited defensive stats.

If he is just gonna provide points and little of anything else then he isn't what we need. We need a guy that gets after all the little things away from the ball with a high motor. Who also has potential offensively.

Knox is 18, looks like he's still growing. Looks like he could be a front line player, who can also play the perimeter.

Between his Dad's influence, and being in a blue chip program, where you're expected to make a splash right off the bat. Playing in the pros might be somewhat liberating. Give him a chance to be more of his own man.

GustavBahler wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:There is a good article on P&T about Knox on the front page. When we hear the details of what Perry/Mills think of a potential pick, you hope its not Walsh all over again, as others have brought up.

The clip on the bottom of page 1, started watching at the 3 minute mark. Nice handle for a big, and using it effectively to get through traffic. Almost like a checkers move,lol.

Would be another big who knows how to play small, like KP. We get enough of that type of player on the roster, and teams are going to have a hard time matching up.

Dont know about Knox's D. If its decent, I wouldnt have a problem with Knox being selected, based on this limited info. Also depends who is available at 9. Would rather draft Knox than Mikal Bridges, or Porter jr.

I agree with all of your points. I do like Miles at 9 but the front office has been thorough and had Knox and Miles go against each other in their workout.

My main concern with Knox is that he is built to look good in a workout. The knocks against him come more from being in a team setting. Like lack of motor and loses focus if he isn't the feature. Does he have the quickness to guard the perimeter or is he best as a PF. For his size and length his 5 rebounds per game is pretty trash. And he offered limited defensive stats.

If he is just gonna provide points and little of anything else then he isn't what we need. We need a guy that gets after all the little things away from the ball with a high motor. Who also has potential offensively.

Knox is 18, looks like he's still growing. Looks like he could be a front line player, who can also play the perimeter.

Between his Dad's influence, and being in a blue chip program, where you're expected to make a splash right off the bat. Playing in the pros might be somewhat liberating. Give him a chance to be more of his own man.

Now the question is. If he is a front line player, does he now force KP to have to play center full time in order to work defensively? Or does he offer the flexibility to allow KP to slide to the 4? With him at the 3, while we still maintaining good offensive pace, but also offering an overwhelming size and length advantage? If we are to contend in the future we need to be on that type of level. Where our lineup is imposing with size and length without having to sacrifice pace & space. Does he have the ability to guard centers himself down the road? Does he have the motor to be an effective front line player and do the dirty work? KP will get volume as a go to scorer. Would that take away from Knox effectiveness? As a lot of his buckets playing with KP will have to come from hustle like Kanter offers.

KP also isn't a great passer at this point in his career. Can Knox offer that ability to allow himself to be more of a feature with KP being more of a finisher? As we can't have 2 front court players who aren't good passers getting majority of the touches. But would we be forced to have to feed Knox to make him effective? Draymond and Durants guard like abilities are devastating from the forward/Big spots as they combine for over 10 ast per game.

Also ideally in a dream scenario. KP & Knox would emulate Ben Wallace and Sheed Wallace defensively. KP being an elite rim protector and Knox being an beast man-man defender. Covering ground all over the court. With both of them offering spacing and ability to put the ball on the floor. With the ability to go even bigger if Fizz wanted to with Knox at the 3, KP at the 4, and another big man for a devastating rotation option. Especially with a 6'5 7ft wing space G with #1 PNR defense ability.

Knox clearly has the raw measurements and athletic tools to accomplish all of this. Would be putting a ton of pressure on Fizz to get him to reach that level of production. And would also probably be a few seasons away from realizing all that he could bring. But if he was able to offer the things mentioned above. To go along with Franks similar potential on the perimeter and of course KP's unicorn traits.

Then the Knicks would be in business.

fwk00 wrote:If its a choice of Porter or Knox, I think you roll with Knox.

I'd definitely go with Porter. Much higher upside and their games are pretty similar.

ccinflushing wrote:If Knox is our guy, I wouldn't be surprised if we traded pick #9 to the Sixers for #10 and #26 and used #10 on Knox.

There are a number of reasons why I think this could happen:

1. Sixers have 6 drafts picks in this draft - don't really have that many roster slots available
2. As they've already maxed out on receivable cash for 2017-18, they can only realistically sell one or two of their draft picks ($5.2Mn max cash receivable can realistically get you picks #38 and #56) and complete this transaction in early July after agreeing to the trade in principle
3. They may have a strong preference for Mikal or Miles and want to pre-empt the Knicks choosing those players
4. Trading #10 and #26 for #9 is fairish value based on historical precedence. It also saves them about $0.9Mn in cap space. (Note: actual saving is $1.5MM as they would already have 12 roster slots accounted for)
5. The international draft and stash pool this year is pretty poor

Anyway take that for what it's worth even if you don't take that for data!

Good article from Keith Pompey of the Philly Inquirer laying out the different options for the Sixers

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/sixers-nba-draft-76ers-kawhi-leonard-mikal-bridges-trade-rumors-76ers-brett-brown-20180616.html