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NardDogNation
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6/10/2018 11:49 AM LAST EDITED: 6/10/2018 12:07 PM
1.) I hope the Knicks bring in Jason Kidd to be a consultant for our PG's during the offseason and training camp. I think Frank Ntilikina, in particular, could benefit from his tutelage. The role Jason Kidd played for us during the 2012-2013 season is exactly what I'd like to see from Ntilikina moving forward (phenomenal outlet passer, ball mover, defender and shooter).
I doubt Mudiay ever lives up to the hype that made him the seventh pick in the 2015 draft but having arguably the greatest PG of all-time breaking down game film and technique for him could not hurt. If Mudiay could be a poor man's version of Kidd on the break during his prime and Ntilikina as the best version of Kidd after he aged, I think we'd have a pretty compelling backcourt moving forward.
"If we build it, they will come". If we have a solid floor AND cap space, we can create a narrative that is compelling enough to sign any all-star with Porzingis already in-tow. Do you think if we had implored this type of strategy sooner and had two max contract spots that we wouldn't be favored to sign both LeBron James and Paul George? We may have missed the window for those two but more disgruntled stars will be available in the future. Moving forward we need to look at any and all options that give us more picks to select "safe picks" in the draft whether that be trading down, acquiring short-term bad contracts with picks attached, etc. I don't care how badly we mangle the cap in the immediate, so long as ALL non-rookie contracts more than $6 million/yr expire BEFORE the 2020-2021 season; aside from Porzingis, obviously.
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NardDogNation
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6/10/2018 12:48 PM
Because of Briggs, I think I'm on team Kevin Huerter as well. I wouldn't take him with the 9th pick but would look into facilitating a trade with the Clippers to acquires picks 12 and 13. With one of those picks, I'd definitely take Huerter.
I was thinking of different strategies to further incentivize the Clippers to make the deal and thought that taking back Danilo Gallinari's awful contract could work. It expires the same year as Noah and Lee's, so I don't think it would hurt us too badly. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycmmg65x The Clippers would get the 8th pick, the Cavs would get the 9th pick, the Thunder would get the 36th pick and we'd get picks 12 and 13. The Clippers do it because they can move up in the draft and get one of the more ballyhooed picks, while replacing a dead contract (Danilo Gallinari) with a serviceable player in Patrick Patterson. The Cavs do the deal because they are also replacing a dead contract (JR Smith) with a serviceable player (Tim Hardaway Jr). The Thunder also do it to save money and replace dead money (Abrines and Singler) with a rotation player, Courtney Lee. I'd also try to engage the Sixers and see if we could flip either 12 or 13 for 10th. They want to create as much cap room as possible, so moving down in the draft would make perfect sense. Swapping Jerryd Bayless, who makes twice as much as Ron Baker, would also encourage them to make a deal. I think Ron Baker, $4.5 million worth of cap space and pick 13 for Jerryd Bayless and pick 10, makes perfect sense for both teams. At 10, I select Mikal Bridges and at 13, I take Kevin Huerter. |
NardDogNation
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6/10/2018 1:01 PM LAST EDITED: 6/10/2018 1:01 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Because of Briggs, I think I'm on team Kevin Huerter as well. I wouldn't take him with the 9th pick but would look into facilitating a trade with the Clippers to acquires picks 12 and 13. With one of those picks, I'd definitely take Huerter. The deal could also be re-structured to maximize the amount of money the Clippers save. If we took JR Smith's contract instead and sent them Lance Thomas, it would save them about $8 million per season and $24 million over the course of the deal. For a lottery team that is close to paying the luxury tax, I don't this is anything to scoff at when considering how few teams can absorb salary without sending money back. |
fwk00
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6/11/2018 12:16 AM
NardDogNation wrote:1.) I hope the Knicks bring in Jason Kidd to be a consultant for our PG's during the offseason and training camp. I think Frank Ntilikina, in particular, could benefit from his tutelage. The role Jason Kidd played for us during the 2012-2013 season is exactly what I'd like to see from Ntilikina moving forward (phenomenal outlet passer, ball mover, defender and shooter). Good observations. 1.) I don't see Kidd being a good influence. He's a power hungry kind of guy and although he could theoretically teach PG skills, chances are he'd teach bad basketball behavior as well. I'm not a fan. IMO, Ron Baker has the makings of a very good coach without assuming the title. I think Mudiay will surprise. Mudiay/Ntilikina may click well this year. 2.) I'm of the opinion that there are no "safe" picks but merely utilitarian picks. The rule generally is "taller is always tradable for smaller" (these days "More athletic always tradable for less athletic"). "Two-way player always superior to one-dimensional", "Younger riskier than old known quality", and so on. Mikal probably won't be there for us but if he is, just do it. He won't be a superstar but he'll be sufficient (a good thing). Also, there's nothing obvious about Porzingis. His injury is severe and he wasn't all that to begin with. Knicks need to just build a team. If KP comes back healthy - fine. If he's still mediocre and an A-hole, trade him off quickly - for god's sake don't do a MELO-esque contract. 3.) Yes to Hezonja. 4.) Yes to Baker. Trade Burke for an additional second-rounder. Baker gives you a hard-nosed bench player, Burke a fifth-wheel PG - noise. You want to concentrate on Mudiay and Ntilikina, not guys like Burke. 5.) KP should be preparing a comeback for the playoffs, not much sooner. 6.) Sanely speculative trades - unlikely but *something* along those trade lines will evolve. |
NardDogNation
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6/11/2018 1:27 AM
fwk00 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:1.) I hope the Knicks bring in Jason Kidd to be a consultant for our PG's during the offseason and training camp. I think Frank Ntilikina, in particular, could benefit from his tutelage. The role Jason Kidd played for us during the 2012-2013 season is exactly what I'd like to see from Ntilikina moving forward (phenomenal outlet passer, ball mover, defender and shooter). I do think that Jason Kidd can be a bit of a distraction but the right monetary incentives would force him to be a good-soldier. After-all, former athletes tend to live a certain lifestyle that demands a steady stream of income and with most coaching vacancies filled, I could see Kidd biding his time with us. Considering his relationship with players around the league and the job he did developing Giannis, I think he'd be worth the investment. And I use the term "safe pick" loosely because we all know there is inherent risk with any selection. However, there are always college juniors and seniors that regularly fall in the draft that can be serviceable role players in the league. Those are the types of guys we should be looking to recruit despite their ceilings being low. And given the trends of past drafts, I think Bridges will be available late because he fits this description. |
elmaestro33
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6/11/2018 2:31 PM
NardDogNation wrote:1.) I hope the Knicks bring in Jason Kidd to be a consultant for our PG's during the offseason and training camp. I think Frank Ntilikina, in particular, could benefit from his tutelage. The role Jason Kidd played for us during the 2012-2013 season is exactly what I'd like to see from Ntilikina moving forward (phenomenal outlet passer, ball mover, defender and shooter). There's no way Kidd is taking a job as PG consultant of the Knicks... LOL. The guy is a head coach and won't accept anything less. He'll get his shot. What is your rationale for that trade? Seems like we're giving up Timmy and Dotson for T. Ferguson and a bunch of old throw-ins. |