- younger
- more physical/explosive body better suited to NBA game
- like his potential as a post & iso player given his explosiveness, strength and use of both hands around the rim
- feel like NBA game may open up more of his offense than we witnessed at MSU
- feel like he could potentially grow into 2nd (Robin) scorer to KP --- like that he has scorers mentality
- like that he gets buckets in numerous ways - catch/shoot, pull-up off dribble, driving, back to basket in post, back-cuts...etc

Again -- either kid along with the Zhaire Smith kid (who could really rise late) would be fun to think about (throw Sexton in there as well).

I'd say Miles Bridges. Explosive on offense, NBA ready body and will be able to bang down low and defend in the paint, better handle, ability to create space between himself and defender, sort of like a young Melo on offense.

Miles' defense: 6'9 wingspan which is decent but unable to withstand pump fakes and still recover. Would he be able to play D against undersized PFs? I absolutely believe he can. Would he ever be able to defend 7 ft'ers...no, unless they bring their arms down.

Moving on to Mikal...definitely more balanced on O and D. Rotates well on D, hops, 7'2 wingspan, could be absolute terror on D, that is...until he faces a wide body who iso-plays him. He definitely needs to get stronger, forget Lebron, I don't see him TODAY being able to defend even PG13 or Morris brothers or Thaddeus Young or Lance Stephenson types. He definitely needs a weight gain plan like KP and Frank, which is fine...since we are a couple of seasons from playoffs IMO.

His ceiling...? A Durant type ace shooter with good D and great hops. As of today, I think he's still inconsistent on offense, streaky like JR but with less shiftiness. Unable to create space and needs to be in the right position or come off curls but will probably be unable to create his own shot in the first couple of seasons.

Overall, I think Mikal for long term prospect and Miles for immediate gains. I'd say why not go for both!! I like both options. Trade Lee or Hardaway to net a mid first-round where Miles is expected to fall

Cartman718 wrote:well first of all...great video. If you asked me today, who's better today...

I'd say Miles Bridges. Explosive on offense, NBA ready body and will be able to bang down low and defend in the paint, better handle, ability to create space between himself and defender, sort of like a young Melo on offense.

Miles' defense: 6'9 wingspan which is decent but unable to withstand pump fakes and still recover. Would he be able to play D against undersized PFs? I absolutely believe he can. Would he ever be able to defend 7 ft'ers...no, unless they bring their arms down.

Moving on to Mikal...definitely more balanced on O and D. Rotates well on D, hops, 7'2 wingspan, could be absolute terror on D, that is...until he faces a wide body who iso-plays him. He definitely needs to get stronger, forget Lebron, I don't see him TODAY being able to defend even PG13 or Morris brothers or Thaddeus Young or Lance Stephenson types. He definitely needs a weight gain plan like KP and Frank, which is fine...since we are a couple of seasons from playoffs IMO.

His ceiling...? A Durant type ace shooter with good D and great hops. As of today, I think he's still inconsistent on offense, streaky like JR but with less shiftiness. Unable to create space and needs to be in the right position or come off curls but will probably be unable to create his own shot in the first couple of seasons.

Overall, I think Mikal for long term prospect and Miles for immediate gains. I'd say why not go for both!! I like both options. Trade Lee or Hardaway to net a mid first-round where Miles is expected to fall

Neither Lee or Hardaway would yield a mid-first rounder. Plus, Miles will definitely go in the lottery i think. He's a good prospect and i'm sure will do very well in workouts.

SupremeCommander wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Either kid is fun to imagine playing for Knicks -- its a tough call but I would go Miles over Mykal for a few reasons.

- younger
- more physical/explosive body better suited to NBA game
- like his potential as a post & iso player given his explosiveness, strength and use of both hands around the rim
- feel like NBA game may open up more of his offense than we witnessed at MSU
- feel like he could potentially grow into 2nd (Robin) scorer to KP --- like that he has scorers mentality
- like that he gets buckets in numerous ways - catch/shoot, pull-up off dribble, driving, back to basket in post, back-cuts...etc

Again -- either kid along with the Zhaire Smith kid (who could really rise late) would be fun to think about (throw Sexton in there as well).

I disagree. Miles is a PF in a SF's body. Those types of tweeners tend to not pan out in the NBA. The Knicks need a guy who can play on the wing. That's Mykal.

Miles is a combo forward. I think what matters is who you play next to him. He definitely has the strength and speed for either position defensively. Offensively his skills are more special at the 4. Mitchell is an undersized 2, which is one of the reasons he dropped in the draft. Miles is probably the closest thing to Mitchell in this draft, in terms of issues preventing him from being a top 5 pick.

SupremeCommander wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Either kid is fun to imagine playing for Knicks -- its a tough call but I would go Miles over Mykal for a few reasons.

- younger
- more physical/explosive body better suited to NBA game
- like his potential as a post & iso player given his explosiveness, strength and use of both hands around the rim
- feel like NBA game may open up more of his offense than we witnessed at MSU
- feel like he could potentially grow into 2nd (Robin) scorer to KP --- like that he has scorers mentality
- like that he gets buckets in numerous ways - catch/shoot, pull-up off dribble, driving, back to basket in post, back-cuts...etc

Again -- either kid along with the Zhaire Smith kid (who could really rise late) would be fun to think about (throw Sexton in there as well).

I disagree. Miles is a PF in a SF's body. Those types of tweeners tend to not pan out in the NBA. The Knicks need a guy who can play on the wing. That's Mykal.

Miles is a combo forward. I think what matters is who you play next to him. He definitely has the strength and speed for either position defensively. Offensively his skills are more special at the 4. Mitchell is an undersized 2, which is one of the reasons he dropped in the draft. Miles is probably the closest thing to Mitchell in this draft, in terms of issues preventing him from being a top 5 pick.

I've had to explain this multiple times in depth on this board... I don't have it in me to do it again... there is a huge difference between being a combo guard and a combo forward. End of the day, a combo guard is on the perimeter. What's needed between a SF and at PF are in contrast with each other

Also, I couldn't disagree more with a Miles/Mitchell comp. You do realize I wanted the Knicks to draft Mitchell last year? Please explain the similarities between Miles and Mitchell because frankly I see no similarities other than athleticism

Both are soph's lost in a world of top freshman, who have been productive college players, but their position and size concerns make them an afterthought. Miles is the type of player who drops outside of the top 10, and then contributes right away, and everyone wonders how he fell so far, much like Mitchell. Bridges is one of the best athletes in the draft, and can shoot and defend. He was a good college player for 2 years too. Not saying he will be anywhere near as successful, but the similarities are obvious.

Obviously I hope we move up to a top 3 but barring that kind of luck I think we walk away with a good rotation player

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:We scouted well under Phil and I expect more of the same. We will get a good player. The best? Cant count on that but I think we draft a good player. I like the Nova kid and have all year. I think you can build a defense around Frank/Bridges/KP. The kind of team that can go out and ruin your offense on a nightly basis. Need more parts but those would be the foundation.

Obviously I hope we move up to a top 3 but barring that kind of luck I think we walk away with a good rotation player

I think we will get a decent player... the 'problem' that I see is that the best prospects that will be available to us will be PGs. Collin Sexton is a baller and a half... it's possible that Trae Young falls (i don't love him but I can see why people would). I thought SGA was the best player on Kentucky and there's a lot to like there.

Mikal Bridges would certainly fill a need for us and he can play. He would be my preffered SF. That said, i don't see him getting much better than he is now and he's not really a 'take the game over' type of player.

I am not opposed to a PG, so long as its the right one. Its hard to have interest in Sexton or Young with Burke already here. The guy who fascinates me SGA. He and Frank give me too long combo guards who can guard 3-4 positions.

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:We scouted well under Phil and I expect more of the same. We will get a good player. The best? Cant count on that but I think we draft a good player. I like the Nova kid and have all year. I think you can build a defense around Frank/Bridges/KP. The kind of team that can go out and ruin your offense on a nightly basis. Need more parts but those would be the foundation.

Obviously I hope we move up to a top 3 but barring that kind of luck I think we walk away with a good rotation player

I think we will get a decent player... the 'problem' that I see is that the best prospects that will be available to us will be PGs. Collin Sexton is a baller and a half... it's possible that Trae Young falls (i don't love him but I can see why people would). I thought SGA was the best player on Kentucky and there's a lot to like there.

Mikal Bridges would certainly fill a need for us and he can play. He would be my preffered SF. That said, i don't see him getting much better than he is now and he's not really a 'take the game over' type of player.

probably not... but making that a requirement at pick 9 is tough.

I am not opposed to a PG, so long as its the right one. Its hard to have interest in Sexton or Young with Burke already here. The guy who fascinates me SGA. He and Frank give me too long combo guards who can guard 3-4 positions.

Yeah i think at number 9 our goal should be a good long-term starting player. I think Mikal or Miles will both be good long-term starters for sure.

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:We scouted well under Phil and I expect more of the same. We will get a good player. The best? Cant count on that but I think we draft a good player. I like the Nova kid and have all year. I think you can build a defense around Frank/Bridges/KP. The kind of team that can go out and ruin your offense on a nightly basis. Need more parts but those would be the foundation.

Obviously I hope we move up to a top 3 but barring that kind of luck I think we walk away with a good rotation player

I think we will get a decent player... the 'problem' that I see is that the best prospects that will be available to us will be PGs. Collin Sexton is a baller and a half... it's possible that Trae Young falls (i don't love him but I can see why people would). I thought SGA was the best player on Kentucky and there's a lot to like there.

Mikal Bridges would certainly fill a need for us and he can play. He would be my preffered SF. That said, i don't see him getting much better than he is now and he's not really a 'take the game over' type of player.

probably not... but making that a requirement at pick 9 is tough.

I am not opposed to a PG, so long as its the right one. Its hard to have interest in Sexton or Young with Burke already here. The guy who fascinates me SGA. He and Frank give me too long combo guards who can guard 3-4 positions.

normally I would agree making it a requirement at #9 would be foolish, but I don't think so in this case. Right now the projection is Seton at #9. I watched a lot of him during the SEC tournament and the NCAA tourney. He was the best player on the court versus Kentucky -- easily. I think SGA took some games over that I watched. If you listen to Briggs, Trae Young can walk on water.

Those guys can take games over. I don't think we're good enough to say no to Sexton if he is available. I wouldn't be pissed if the Knicks draft Mikal, that said, I feel like having three PGs is like having three QBs. I would rather draft Sexton and let him play PG with Trey and then let Frank and THJ play SG. Maybe Mudiay surprises us, maybe he doesn't.

Conversely, I'm not really sure how Bridges stacks up against the best SFs in the game. Even if he ends up exactly as projected, is he good enough to be one of the 16 best SFs in the game?