Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

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Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Fish, your way off man. You talking about Psychology do you even realize what the Knicks are selling you. If the plan is let’s be friends of the friend of the cool kids that’s f’ing ridiculous plan. You have to ask yourself Fizdale does he have a history of player development. Bud had that matter of fact he got THJ paid.

You have been saying knicks are developing players and then they hire a coach with no history of it.

Fizdale has no history of anything? LOL

I wonder why Boston hired Brad Stevens cause he had no history of developing any NBA players? lol

You can see how facetious this can get?

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

Brad Stevens has a history of development from college. He is actually taking 18 year old kids and molding them through college. Your comparing a top level player developer to a coaching failure who couldn’t get along with his Star player. Maybe that is why the Knicks got rid of Willie.

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

I’ll tell what really matters about Fizdale. Not the right hire for a developing team.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Your putting a positive spin on something(the FO) that has been historically bad. You dont like to hear nothing negative about the FO, or better yet, it's hard for you to face reality sometimes.

If the media isn't writing PUFF pieces about the KNICKS, then you have nothing positive to say about the writer, it's like why does this writer have to breakdown and exposed all of our weaknesses as a franchise.

What is the positive spin I put on it?

Historically bad? Please tell me the coaches Mills has hired in the past... lets discuss facts...

Go

Here's the thing your not getting..Mills record as pres and gm is 0 winning seasons and 6 loosing season. Can his Princeton ass Analyze that, can he put that in his analytic machine

Mills and Isiah (dolans best friends) have combined for 11 of the knicks 16 losing seasons since JVG.

the fiz hiring is ok( like picking frank over micthell), but interviewing 10 guys(2 of which were more proven than fiz and still available) for the sake of saying you did your due diligence was a absolute smoke screen/publicity stunt(didn't want to look like phil).

AT no point in any pres conference that mills and perry did after firing JH, did they say winning was on the top 3 list of Mandatory attributes. maybe that goes without saying, but it would be nice to here it coming from a loser like mills. I'm only calling him a loser because that's what his record indicates.

I stopped after the bold statement which is false. As usual people dont get your points because they dont exist. They are make believe.

you never get the point when people talk about your buddy mills, in your eyes he's the best president the knicks ever had in the league

I dont like Mills at all. I just dont make up lies and false statements to back my opinions.

Mills has been OK. We are better than we he took over but not by an impressive margin. Made some good small moves, but lets see his draft, offseason, Kanter, how Fizdale works out, etc etc... its always possible Mills phucks this up worse than Phil. But he hasnt yet. Calling you and Vmart out for backing your salty negativity with made up fake news doesnt mean I am a Mills homer... it just means I find that **** annoying. So I poke you.

Im talking to die hard knick fans, what fake news are you talking about, were voicing our opinions. I said mills has not had one winning season while holding the Gm and Prez position for the knicks, and that's FAKE NEWS.

Can you refresh my memory on that winning season the knicks had with him in charge, must have slip my mind.

Vmart wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Fish, your way off man. You talking about Psychology do you even realize what the Knicks are selling you. If the plan is let’s be friends of the friend of the cool kids that’s f’ing ridiculous plan. You have to ask yourself Fizdale does he have a history of player development. Bud had that matter of fact he got THJ paid.

You have been saying knicks are developing players and then they hire a coach with no history of it.

Fizdale has no history of anything? LOL

I wonder why Boston hired Brad Stevens cause he had no history of developing any NBA players? lol

You can see how facetious this can get?

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

Brad Stevens has a history of development from college. He is actually taking 18 year old kids and molding them through college. Your comparing a top level player developer to a coaching failure who couldn’t get along with his Star player. Maybe that is why the Knicks got rid of Willie.

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

I’ll tell what really matters about Fizdale. Not the right hire for a developing team.

Why would you say that? Also, who is the right hire? I agreed with your point about JVG being a play the vets guy but I am not sure where you are getting this with Fizdale. Your Willy comment earlier in the thread makes it a bit hard to take you seriously on this topic.

I have nothing against Fizdale. He is a great person who has a excellent social stance in the fight for equality he has leadership skills that the young player can benefit from if it is on social issues. I question his ability to develop talent. We have not seen it at any point in his career. The Pat Riley tree is one that doesn’t develop talent they are heavy veteran oriented coaches. This is where we are at a crossroad. Bud has better development skills comes from a pretty good coaching tree as well. He would have made the better choice as a stint with the Hawks was much more successful that Fizdale’s with Memphis. Already known to have turned around THJ’s career who actually was pulling for Bud.

My question to others is what has he accomplished to warrant praise and accolades. What makes people think he was the right hire. The Knicks passed up better candidates.

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Fish, your way off man. You talking about Psychology do you even realize what the Knicks are selling you. If the plan is let’s be friends of the friend of the cool kids that’s f’ing ridiculous plan. You have to ask yourself Fizdale does he have a history of player development. Bud had that matter of fact he got THJ paid.

You have been saying knicks are developing players and then they hire a coach with no history of it.

Fizdale has no history of anything? LOL

I wonder why Boston hired Brad Stevens cause he had no history of developing any NBA players? lol

You can see how facetious this can get?

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

Brad Stevens has a history of development from college. He is actually taking 18 year old kids and molding them through college. Your comparing a top level player developer to a coaching failure who couldn’t get along with his Star player. Maybe that is why the Knicks got rid of Willie.

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

I’ll tell what really matters about Fizdale. Not the right hire for a developing team.

Why would you say that? Also, who is the right hire? I agreed with your point about JVG being a play the vets guy but I am not sure where you are getting this with Fizdale. Your Willy comment earlier in the thread makes it a bit hard to take you seriously on this topic.

I have nothing against Fizdale. He is a great person who has a excellent social stance in the fight for equality he has leadership skills that the young player can benefit from if it is on social issues. I question his ability to develop talent. We have not seen it at any point in his career. The Pat Riley tree is one that doesn’t develop talent they are heavy veteran oriented coaches. This is where we are at a crossroad. Bud has better development skills comes from a pretty good coaching tree as well. He would have made the better choice as a stint with the Hawks was much more successful that Fizdale’s with Memphis. Already known to have turned around THJ’s career who actually was pulling for Bud.

My question to others is what has he accomplished to warrant praise and accolades. What makes people think he was the right hire. The Knicks passed up better candidates.

I would have had no problem with Bud as coach. The Hawks as an organization use the g league really well. But I can only think of a few specific guys that were developed by Bud (Schroder and Hardaway). Bud also had the luxury of roster continuity. Guys like Muscala have been in their system for 4, 5 years. That makes a difference as well. I think the Knicks are committed to that. Also, I would not undersell the importance of a front office that is on the same page as the head coach. The last time that happened the Knicks won 54 games.

why was he able to have that continuity, they were winning, he sent 4 guys(first timers) to the all star game in that 60 win season, including teague, millsap and korver, al are you kidding me. Not to mention BUD wanted to be here among other options he's sure to get

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Fish, your way off man. You talking about Psychology do you even realize what the Knicks are selling you. If the plan is let’s be friends of the friend of the cool kids that’s f’ing ridiculous plan. You have to ask yourself Fizdale does he have a history of player development. Bud had that matter of fact he got THJ paid.

You have been saying knicks are developing players and then they hire a coach with no history of it.

Fizdale has no history of anything? LOL

I wonder why Boston hired Brad Stevens cause he had no history of developing any NBA players? lol

You can see how facetious this can get?

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

Brad Stevens has a history of development from college. He is actually taking 18 year old kids and molding them through college. Your comparing a top level player developer to a coaching failure who couldn’t get along with his Star player. Maybe that is why the Knicks got rid of Willie.

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

I’ll tell what really matters about Fizdale. Not the right hire for a developing team.

OMG I asked twice and you gave the most pathetic answer ever

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-hired-david-fizdale-player-mind-lebron-james-article-1.3970429

Only got half way thru the article, one of the more pathetic things I read and I don't know why you posted or why I clicked on link.

I don’t like Isola but he is on point here.

of course... he fits in with your misery and salty agenda. Someone wrote a negative spin on the Knicks? Vmart endorses this message. Cosign!

VMart... which points is he spot on about?

Then you must be a glutton for punishment to be reading my posts. They say misery loves company you sure are giving me a lot of it.

Na... its like a psychology thing for me. I find your singular focus on negativity fascinating. Nothing will ever work, nothing is good, everything is bad... yet you are still here. You keep coming back to the NY Knicks fan site to share and revel in it. You clearly dislike everything about this org... yet you are here. Every day. Saying the same things. Its honestly fascinating.

Go Fiz.. somehow coaching Lebron and still being regarded by elite players around the league is a negative! Isola is selling and VMart is a buyin

Fish, your way off man. You talking about Psychology do you even realize what the Knicks are selling you. If the plan is let’s be friends of the friend of the cool kids that’s f’ing ridiculous plan. You have to ask yourself Fizdale does he have a history of player development. Bud had that matter of fact he got THJ paid.

You have been saying knicks are developing players and then they hire a coach with no history of it.

Fizdale has no history of anything? LOL

I wonder why Boston hired Brad Stevens cause he had no history of developing any NBA players? lol

You can see how facetious this can get?

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

Brad Stevens has a history of development from college. He is actually taking 18 year old kids and molding them through college. Your comparing a top level player developer to a coaching failure who couldn’t get along with his Star player. Maybe that is why the Knicks got rid of Willie.

Honest question: How much do you know about Fizdale?

I’ll tell what really matters about Fizdale. Not the right hire for a developing team.

OMG I asked twice and you gave the most pathetic answer ever

Martin, any answer I give you, you would find fault in it. Let me ask you a question. Is it true you would have signed off on any hire the Knicks made? One thing I know is you jump on any boat the Knicks put out to sail even the one with leaks in it.

CrushAlot wrote:From Kerber's article. The entire article is worth a read. Just a quote.

“It’s his ability to recollect plays and know where all 10 guys were on the floor,” said Smith, who coached Columbia for six years. “He has a photographic memory, like Larry Bird. We’d meet every day for egg sandwiches and he’d talk about practice and certain plays. We didn’t even watch film and he’d say, ‘This guy missed a rotation on this baseline drive.’ I was like, ‘My gosh.’ Then we’d watch film and see it. He’s a little bit like a savant.”

Bennett claimed “he got a snapshot in his mind” of what occurs on court.

“When we recruited him, one of the reasons we took him was because he had a high basketball IQ but his magnetism with people was exceptional,” Bennett said

“What I didn’t know is he can see things on the court that other people can’t see as a coach and as a player,” Bennett said. “A lot of guys don’t see what just happened as crystal clear as he does. A lot of people need video. He’s got a snapshot in his mind as it happens and can teach and communicate it. Teaching, patience, working with people are definitely strengths.”

https://nypost.com/2018/05/05/coaches-who-gave-david-fizdale-his-shot-know-hes-built-for-this/

There's been a lot of Puf pieces about FIZ. THE COMMUNICATION part (By far) has me rooting for him because that is what Frank and KP needs. In fact, i feel a little more better about frank.

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:From Kerber's article. The entire article is worth a read. Just a quote.

“It’s his ability to recollect plays and know where all 10 guys were on the floor,” said Smith, who coached Columbia for six years. “He has a photographic memory, like Larry Bird. We’d meet every day for egg sandwiches and he’d talk about practice and certain plays. We didn’t even watch film and he’d say, ‘This guy missed a rotation on this baseline drive.’ I was like, ‘My gosh.’ Then we’d watch film and see it. He’s a little bit like a savant.”

Bennett claimed “he got a snapshot in his mind” of what occurs on court.

“When we recruited him, one of the reasons we took him was because he had a high basketball IQ but his magnetism with people was exceptional,” Bennett said

“What I didn’t know is he can see things on the court that other people can’t see as a coach and as a player,” Bennett said. “A lot of guys don’t see what just happened as crystal clear as he does. A lot of people need video. He’s got a snapshot in his mind as it happens and can teach and communicate it. Teaching, patience, working with people are definitely strengths.”

https://nypost.com/2018/05/05/coaches-who-gave-david-fizdale-his-shot-know-hes-built-for-this/

There's been a lot of Puf pieces about FIZ. THE COMMUNICATION part (By far) has me rooting for him because that is what Frank and KP needs. In fact, i feel a little more better about frank.

I agree. Also, the tweet Knicksfilm School put out with Fiz explaining how they teach finishing at the basket has me optimistic that Mudiay might be able to improve. Mudiay falls a lot and is not a good finisher.

I looked at Mudiay's shooting percentages at the rim when he was with the Knicks and it wasn't that bad. He shot about 65%, according to Basketball-Reference. It doesn't jibe with the eye test. I wonder if it was because he had more fast break opportunities here to boost that number up.

BasketballJones wrote:I remember when Larry Brown stole Nate Robinson's joy....

one of the worst days for knicks fans, and then it was D'Antoni too. another old school coach trying to "mould" a new school player. if you remember, one of the first players to venture out beyond playing into blogging and "express himself", dancing during pre-game...loved his energy which was boundless...instead of channeling it, LB tried to suppress it.

and today, every team has a use for someone with that kinda motor.

http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=2511761