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TripleThreat
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4/30/2018  10:38 PM
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of


Melo technically qualifies, just barely, under the new Over 38 Rule. Meaning he can get one last four year contract if he opts out this offseason. Since OKC has his Bird Rights, technically they can give him the most money possible.

For example, 1 for 28 versus 4/60. I'm not saying a team will offer 4/60, nor am I saying he'd take it if it was offered, I am saying however that he will have to weigh out can he get 3/30 or better after this year, if the issue is total dollars.

Why would team offer 4/60? It depends on the team, it's cap space and it's general attendance trend. Melo is not a good player anymore, not even close, but he's still a draw for fans and a draw to get some more national TV broadcasts.

Teams with cap space and attendance problems

Hawks
Mavericks
Kings
Nets

Things I see happening

Situation A) He opts in and then gets bought out, then signs at the vet minimum to ring chase with a contender.

Situation B) He opts out and signs a 4 year deal, at a much lower AAV, to guarantee total years. This is most likely the case with the Clippers. I'm not saying they want him, I am saying that team is more of a fit in this situation than most would imagine. It fits his idiotic desire to be "branding" oriented.

Situation C) He opts out and signs a 2 year deal with the Lakers with a player option for Year 2. The AAV would be 15 million a year, the reasoning being he'd have to leave 15 on the table anyway to get a OKC buyout. LBJ will be a Laker and he is that stupid as to sign Melo to any kind of deal.

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5/1/2018  10:43 AM
TripleThreat wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of


Melo technically qualifies, just barely, under the new Over 38 Rule. Meaning he can get one last four year contract if he opts out this offseason. Since OKC has his Bird Rights, technically they can give him the most money possible.

For example, 1 for 28 versus 4/60. I'm not saying a team will offer 4/60, nor am I saying he'd take it if it was offered, I am saying however that he will have to weigh out can he get 3/30 or better after this year, if the issue is total dollars.

Why would team offer 4/60? It depends on the team, it's cap space and it's general attendance trend. Melo is not a good player anymore, not even close, but he's still a draw for fans and a draw to get some more national TV broadcasts.

Teams with cap space and attendance problems

Hawks
Mavericks
Kings
Nets

Things I see happening

Situation A) He opts in and then gets bought out, then signs at the vet minimum to ring chase with a contender.

Situation B) He opts out and signs a 4 year deal, at a much lower AAV, to guarantee total years. This is most likely the case with the Clippers. I'm not saying they want him, I am saying that team is more of a fit in this situation than most would imagine. It fits his idiotic desire to be "branding" oriented.

Situation C) He opts out and signs a 2 year deal with the Lakers with a player option for Year 2. The AAV would be 15 million a year, the reasoning being he'd have to leave 15 on the table anyway to get a OKC buyout. LBJ will be a Laker and he is that stupid as to sign Melo to any kind of deal.

Interesting take. One thing that might make it hard for Melo to catch on somewhere was the way he went out this season. Arguing with HOFer Mo Cheeks, because he got called out for his D. And making demands about starting next season, in spite of being mostly AWOL in the playoffs. Not the way you want teams to remember you going into the offseason.

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5/1/2018  10:49 AM
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newyorknewyork wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of

He may retire after this contract runs out.

he's not opting out of that contract, he would be damn fool.

I said 5 yrs ago he would never win a ring until he was role player, like 7th man role player.

He'll be brought next feb, and hatch on to where ever Labron is at

LeBron wants no part of Melo. He Lready knows he has a losing type game.

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5/1/2018  11:02 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of


Melo technically qualifies, just barely, under the new Over 38 Rule. Meaning he can get one last four year contract if he opts out this offseason. Since OKC has his Bird Rights, technically they can give him the most money possible.

For example, 1 for 28 versus 4/60. I'm not saying a team will offer 4/60, nor am I saying he'd take it if it was offered, I am saying however that he will have to weigh out can he get 3/30 or better after this year, if the issue is total dollars.

Why would team offer 4/60? It depends on the team, it's cap space and it's general attendance trend. Melo is not a good player anymore, not even close, but he's still a draw for fans and a draw to get some more national TV broadcasts.

Teams with cap space and attendance problems

Hawks
Mavericks
Kings
Nets

Things I see happening

Situation A) He opts in and then gets bought out, then signs at the vet minimum to ring chase with a contender.

Situation B) He opts out and signs a 4 year deal, at a much lower AAV, to guarantee total years. This is most likely the case with the Clippers. I'm not saying they want him, I am saying that team is more of a fit in this situation than most would imagine. It fits his idiotic desire to be "branding" oriented.

Situation C) He opts out and signs a 2 year deal with the Lakers with a player option for Year 2. The AAV would be 15 million a year, the reasoning being he'd have to leave 15 on the table anyway to get a OKC buyout. LBJ will be a Laker and he is that stupid as to sign Melo to any kind of deal.

Interesting take. One thing that might make it hard for Melo to catch on somewhere was the way he went out this season. Arguing with HOFer Mo Cheeks, because he got called out for his D. And making demands about starting next season, in spite of being mostly AWOL in the playoffs. Not the way you want teams to remember you going into the offseason.


Yep. Even if he is able to convince a team this past season is a fluke, he still has that repuation as a team cancer, fair or unfair. But just the fact that his game has been declining for the past three year would make me hesitate to give him a multi-year deal. The NTC is the real killer. I think OKC is stuck.
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5/1/2018  1:08 PM
Vmart wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of

He may retire after this contract runs out.

he's not opting out of that contract, he would be damn fool.

I said 5 yrs ago he would never win a ring until he was role player, like 7th man role player.

He'll be brought next feb, and hatch on to where ever Labron is at

LeBron wants no part of Melo. He Lready knows he has a losing type game.

It's his best friend..

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5/1/2018  2:08 PM
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TripleThreat wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of


Melo technically qualifies, just barely, under the new Over 38 Rule. Meaning he can get one last four year contract if he opts out this offseason. Since OKC has his Bird Rights, technically they can give him the most money possible.

For example, 1 for 28 versus 4/60. I'm not saying a team will offer 4/60, nor am I saying he'd take it if it was offered, I am saying however that he will have to weigh out can he get 3/30 or better after this year, if the issue is total dollars.

Why would team offer 4/60? It depends on the team, it's cap space and it's general attendance trend. Melo is not a good player anymore, not even close, but he's still a draw for fans and a draw to get some more national TV broadcasts.

Teams with cap space and attendance problems

Hawks
Mavericks
Kings
Nets

Things I see happening

Situation A) He opts in and then gets bought out, then signs at the vet minimum to ring chase with a contender.

Situation B) He opts out and signs a 4 year deal, at a much lower AAV, to guarantee total years. This is most likely the case with the Clippers. I'm not saying they want him, I am saying that team is more of a fit in this situation than most would imagine. It fits his idiotic desire to be "branding" oriented.

Situation C) He opts out and signs a 2 year deal with the Lakers with a player option for Year 2. The AAV would be 15 million a year, the reasoning being he'd have to leave 15 on the table anyway to get a OKC buyout. LBJ will be a Laker and he is that stupid as to sign Melo to any kind of deal.

Interesting take. One thing that might make it hard for Melo to catch on somewhere was the way he went out this season. Arguing with HOFer Mo Cheeks, because he got called out for his D. And making demands about starting next season, in spite of being mostly AWOL in the playoffs. Not the way you want teams to remember you going into the offseason.

ahh... the Melo we know and love.
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5/1/2018  4:23 PM
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5/1/2018  7:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/1/2018  7:45 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.

I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!

cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of


Melo technically qualifies, just barely, under the new Over 38 Rule. Meaning he can get one last four year contract if he opts out this offseason. Since OKC has his Bird Rights, technically they can give him the most money possible.

For example, 1 for 28 versus 4/60. I'm not saying a team will offer 4/60, nor am I saying he'd take it if it was offered, I am saying however that he will have to weigh out can he get 3/30 or better after this year, if the issue is total dollars.

Why would team offer 4/60? It depends on the team, it's cap space and it's general attendance trend. Melo is not a good player anymore, not even close, but he's still a draw for fans and a draw to get some more national TV broadcasts.

Teams with cap space and attendance problems

Hawks
Mavericks
Kings
Nets

Things I see happening

Situation A) He opts in and then gets bought out, then signs at the vet minimum to ring chase with a contender.

Situation B) He opts out and signs a 4 year deal, at a much lower AAV, to guarantee total years. This is most likely the case with the Clippers. I'm not saying they want him, I am saying that team is more of a fit in this situation than most would imagine. It fits his idiotic desire to be "branding" oriented.

Situation C) He opts out and signs a 2 year deal with the Lakers with a player option for Year 2. The AAV would be 15 million a year, the reasoning being he'd have to leave 15 on the table anyway to get a OKC buyout. LBJ will be a Laker and he is that stupid as to sign Melo to any kind of deal.

Options A is the only feasible scenario. Any scenario that has Melo opting out of $27 Mil is not happening. Still, with Option A you have to wonder why any legitimate contender would want him?

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5/2/2018  1:32 PM
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Bam!

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"You always bring the weather with you".............
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5/2/2018  2:25 PM
i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks
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5/2/2018  2:33 PM
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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5/2/2018  4:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2018  4:16 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

He should be retired next after Marbs.
Steph had much more memorable Knicks moments (track, Vaseline, Isiah... ).
Melo was just boring.

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5/2/2018  5:35 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

Nuggets should absolutely retire his number. Would be good for their brand regardless.

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5/2/2018  6:11 PM
lol i love this gem from Berman's article just posted...
"The Knicks still have a vacancy at the starting small-forward position."
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5/2/2018  6:33 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

i agree. Allan was never the scorer melo was but he had bigger moments. Obviously the game winner against miami tops it all
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5/2/2018  6:36 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

Well said.
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5/2/2018  9:25 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
martin wrote:

Bam!

priceless!

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5/3/2018  5:02 AM
Only highlight of NYK in the past 15 or so years is Linsanity, and Melo forced him out.

Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:i wonder if anyone will retire melo's number and if it will be nuggs. it better not be knicks

I read Presti's comments and he is a real pro. He is saying mostly nice things about Melo in a professional and calculated manner.

As for Melo, I say no to him being a retired knicks. Allan Houstan accomplished more and he is not there. Melo scored points. There was no significant moment or TEAM achievement. He led the league in scoring. Its a nice honor. Not enough for his number to be retired.
Bernard King is in the HOF but not a knick retired number. He was not here long enough.
Im not knocking Melo, there was no finals run, no playoff moments, no "big games", etc. Im not blaming him, the rosters in his era's were not deep. He'll be a HOF.
If Nuggs want to retire him, that's their choice.

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