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4/20/2018  8:33 PM
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Cartman718 wrote:Why is cleanthony early still on twitter

Why not? He has access to Twitter in Turkey, Puerto.Rivo or whatever. I'm glad to see he's doing OK.

it was a joke. lighten up

I can't let this go. Early's Knick career was no joke. He was a warrior, a good teammate off the bench and a model citizen who just happened to be at the wrong strip club at the wrong time. You want to shut him up and sweep him under the rug? Well guess what? You'll never succeed. Early will always be a step ahead of you haters.

guys... its happy Friday. No Cleanthony Early fights. At least not before noon.

A little late to be defending Early isnt it? Besides my phone wont display tweets anymore. Hope it was good news.


Naw, just trying to keep Early name circulated in the fandom lol No idea what he's up to, but hope he's doing well. Once a Knick....

Once a knick.......A future coaching prospect!!!
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4/21/2018  12:30 PM
I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

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4/21/2018  12:49 PM
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

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4/21/2018  12:57 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

16-5-5 on 50% shooting with some stls and blks. If he tops out in that range with All NBA defense accolades. We hit a home run. Especially since he would probably putting up those numbers while sliding thru 3 positions probably guarding the opponents best offensive perimeter weapon

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4/21/2018  1:06 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

16-5-5 on 50% shooting with some stls and blks. If he tops out in that range with All NBA defense accolades. We hit a home run. Especially since he would probably putting up those numbers while sliding thru 3 positions probably guarding the opponents best offensive perimeter weapon


Knicks stated that they wanted 2Way Players!!! They went with a young kid with versatile defensive stud potential, passing and raw offensive talent. Seems like a very real commitment to me. In addition they did the same with Dotson who is another 2Way player. You keep doing that as a Franchise and it will add up to a legit winning roster.
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4/21/2018  1:44 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

16-5-5 on 50% shooting with some stls and blks. If he tops out in that range with All NBA defense accolades. We hit a home run. Especially since he would probably putting up those numbers while sliding thru 3 positions probably guarding the opponents best offensive perimeter weapon

Lol, is that all? Might want to take a look at the players over the last 40 years who've put up those kinds of numbers in a season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&year_min=1980&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=16&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=5&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=fg_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=.5&order_by=ws

Pretty much the entire list is made up of HOF and most of the list is the greatest players of all time. In fact, of the 50 player seasons over the last 40 years almost half of them were by Lebron, Jordan, and Magic. Kind of interesting, our former coach put that up in 91-92.

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4/21/2018  2:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2018  2:37 PM
VCoug wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

16-5-5 on 50% shooting with some stls and blks. If he tops out in that range with All NBA defense accolades. We hit a home run. Especially since he would probably putting up those numbers while sliding thru 3 positions probably guarding the opponents best offensive perimeter weapon

Lol, is that all? Might want to take a look at the players over the last 40 years who've put up those kinds of numbers in a season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&year_min=1980&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=16&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=5&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=fg_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=.5&order_by=ws

Pretty much the entire list is made up of HOF and most of the list is the greatest players of all time. In fact, of the 50 player seasons over the last 40 years almost half of them were by Lebron, Jordan, and Magic. Kind of interesting, our former coach put that up in 91-92.

Those are the numbers he put up his last 2 games which is why I put them up. Said if he tops out in that range so not expecting those exact numbers.

I'll settle for 15-4-4 with 1.5stls on 46% shooting if I get elite defense and efficient 3 pt shooting.

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4/21/2018  4:32 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
VCoug wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nixluva wrote:I'm very happy with how Frank ended the Season. He has a boatload of Upside. Frank finished the season a +2 in On/Off Court. I know it's hard to accept what Donovan Mitchell has turned out to be this year but we have to remember that he's 21 and it's yet to be determined how much better Frank will be in 2 years. My guess is that the gap will close significantly as Frank continues to develop his body and his skills. They're not the same kind of player so for some it won't matter how much better Frank gets.

Frank will probably always be more of a Pass 1st player even if he does gain more confidence in his scoring. I'm fine with that. I can't wait to see how he develops this summer.

People who constantly whine about Frank after talking about rebuilding are about as relevant as Trump is. I just ignore the negativity, mean ass people who can't root for a 19 year old kid to succeed because they need to see a 32 win season instead of a 22 win season. Oddly enough the same people latch on to Trey Burke as the "savior". Pathetic hypocrites.

16-5-5 on 50% shooting with some stls and blks. If he tops out in that range with All NBA defense accolades. We hit a home run. Especially since he would probably putting up those numbers while sliding thru 3 positions probably guarding the opponents best offensive perimeter weapon

Lol, is that all? Might want to take a look at the players over the last 40 years who've put up those kinds of numbers in a season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=per_game&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&year_min=1980&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=16&c2stat=trb_per_g&c2comp=gt&c2val=5&c3stat=ast_per_g&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=fg_pct&c4comp=gt&c4val=.5&order_by=ws

Pretty much the entire list is made up of HOF and most of the list is the greatest players of all time. In fact, of the 50 player seasons over the last 40 years almost half of them were by Lebron, Jordan, and Magic. Kind of interesting, our former coach put that up in 91-92.

Those are the numbers he put up his last 2 games which is why I put them up. Said if he tops out in that range so not expecting those exact numbers.

I'll settle for 15-4-4 with 1.5stls on 46% shooting if I get elite defense and efficient 3 pt shooting.

I think everyone would be happy with that.

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4/22/2018  12:23 PM
martin wrote:

Yeah Frank really quietly did his thing on D. He's got even more upside as he matures too. Just getting stronger with better conditioning should help him a lot.

I was really happy with how he looked to close the season. He seemed to finally play more care free and fearless on offense. He did stuff that i'm sure he always knew he could do but was holding back. I felt a lot of his struggles were mental more than physical. The hesitance and self doubt made him look slow. You could see that he's quick enough when he plays confident and aggressive.

Frank back in France gettin love from the fans.

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4/24/2018  2:08 PM
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More metrics that show his incredible defense. His poor offense this season made a lot of people really underestimate him as a prospect, particularly those who just follow the basis stats. Jrue Holiday (who has played mostly SG this season) is a great long-term goal for Ntilikina in terms of potential and impact. Frank is going to be really good, people just need to give his offense time to catch up.

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4/26/2018  12:24 AM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:

More metrics that show his incredible defense. His poor offense this season made a lot of people really underestimate him as a prospect, particularly those who just follow the basis stats. Jrue Holiday (who has played mostly SG this season) is a great long-term goal for Ntilikina in terms of potential and impact. Frank is going to be really good, people just need to give his offense time to catch up.

It’s crazy how Frank blocks shots.

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4/26/2018  8:44 AM
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:

More metrics that show his incredible defense. His poor offense this season made a lot of people really underestimate him as a prospect, particularly those who just follow the basis stats. Jrue Holiday (who has played mostly SG this season) is a great long-term goal for Ntilikina in terms of potential and impact. Frank is going to be really good, people just need to give his offense time to catch up.

I thought JH was the worst coach for Frank, and i think the way this roster was put together made it even worse. He did look a little better(offensively) playing the 2g with Burke at the point.

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4/26/2018  9:01 AM
JH is gone. The roster was very fluid last year. (Lots of changes)
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4/26/2018  9:08 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
martin wrote:

More metrics that show his incredible defense. His poor offense this season made a lot of people really underestimate him as a prospect, particularly those who just follow the basis stats. Jrue Holiday (who has played mostly SG this season) is a great long-term goal for Ntilikina in terms of potential and impact. Frank is going to be really good, people just need to give his offense time to catch up.

I thought JH was the worst coach for Frank, and i think the way this roster was put together made it even worse. He did look a little better(offensively) playing the 2g with Burke at the point.

Coach Bud would do wonders for him.

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5/3/2018  4:44 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:

Liked the windmill dunk. Looks like Frank is getting a little more elevation. Hope to see clips like tbat at Rucker or Drew. That will get fans pumped for next season.

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newyorknewyork wrote:

Liked the windmill dunk. Looks like Frank is getting a little more elevation. Hope to see clips like tbat at Rucker or Drew. That will get fans pumped for next season.

I don't think I've ever said this about a wing player, but I want to see Frank dunk more

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5/3/2018  4:46 PM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:

Liked the windmill dunk. Looks like Frank is getting a little more elevation. Hope to see clips like tbat at Rucker or Drew. That will get fans pumped for next season.

I don't think I've ever said this about a wing player, but I want to see Frank dunk more

Ditto

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5/3/2018  5:01 PM
Yea, one of the hopes is that since he never really weight trained in France. That he has a another level of athleticism he can reach after heavy NBA strength and conditioning training.

The windmill is a solid sign

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