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Nalod
Posts: 68654 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/13/2018 2:59 PM
Did Choo make the deal for Willy??
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Nalod
Posts: 68654 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/13/2018 3:45 PM
JVG has not coached in 11 years.
His tenure with rockets was riddled with 3 first round exits in 4 years. Injuries sabotaged his run. His last year the team finishes strong but they got bounced in first round and was FIRED. His teams were deemed offensively not up to the task. Does that mean he can't coach? Im sure he could and adapt to the modern game. He is a very smart fellow. His rants don't make him smarter or a better coach, its entertainment. I find them tiring actually. I was a big JVG fan and loved those exhausted press conferences after playoff games where he looked like he had not slept in days and slugged down diet cokes!!!! But that was then. 11 coaches later, we still pining for him? Of course, he represents our last link to success era. Fact is the franchise would have been better off keeping Nelson, trading Ewing and moved forward. but we did not, I enjoyed the era never the less but bring him back? |
blkexec
Posts: 27828 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
4/13/2018 4:33 PM
Bring on Sam Cassel...who will have Kenny Smith as an advisor.
I would feel safe having this combination part of our coaching staff. Never been a JVG fan. Mark Jackson like Kenny Smith are NY guys. But from listening to Mark Jackson vs Kenny Kenny has the best of both worlds....I trust his basketball IQ. And he's a true NY'er born and raised. If we hire Mark Jackson, I think he needs JVG on his staff for that to work. I doubt they both leave ESPN together. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
4/13/2018 4:52 PM
Nalod wrote:JVG has not coached in 11 years. Pointing out how he left the game is important. I doubt he would do it, but considering how long he has been out, it would be great if JVG came back as an asst to someone like Vogel as technomaster pointed out. Mark Jackson feels like Isiah part deux. I would be concerned about Rivers trying to remove Perry from the equation. Getting back the control he had in LA, for a while. Fizdale would have to deal with the NY media over his stance on some issues, as others have pointed out. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23778 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
4/13/2018 6:06 PM
I go
Blatt of currently available guys -- Clifford I like but when watching Hornets this year never got sense they were fully locked in. Give Blatt a shot. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23778 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
4/13/2018 6:07 PM
Nalod wrote:JVG has not coached in 11 years. JVG runs BRUTAL offense and he quit on the franchise (his own team). That said -- I still like him because he is focused/driven/defensive minded. |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
4/13/2018 6:26 PM
NYKBocker wrote: I would love to have JVG back. Listening to McGrady praise him like that was awesome. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
4/13/2018 6:32 PM
LivingLegend wrote:I thought the death of his friend in 9/11 was why Jeff left.Nalod wrote:JVG has not coached in 11 years. http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/fallen-friend-inspiration-van-article-1.932920 I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29860 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
4/13/2018 6:38 PM
We have a lot of young players on the roster. And will probably be bringing in more. Need a coach that will develop skills sets first and foremost. Then after he gets fired. We can bring in a coach that knows how to win games with a roster that was already developed by the previous coach.
If we can find a coach that can do both then even better. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
4/13/2018 6:44 PM
I want Phil Jackson to coach
I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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Markji
Posts: 22753 Alba Posts: -4 Joined: 9/14/2007 Member: #1673 USA |
4/13/2018 7:09 PM LAST EDITED: 4/13/2018 7:11 PM
No to Mark Jackson - too contentious. Too big of a name and ego for our young developing team.
I agree with the premise that we should strongly consider hiring a black coach. At least make that one of the variables that potential coaches are graded on. I think it is a plus, especially if they can relate to the young players. But obviously everything else has to be taken into account as well. My 2 top choices right now - both being equal are Others to consider: The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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Paris907
Posts: 21146 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2015 Member: #6099 USA |
4/13/2018 8:13 PM
Perry says he wants someone to deal with the media and who has experience :
If Fizdale heads to Hornets I can seeneither JVG or Jackson step up. Both experienced and both capable. Listen to McGrady re : JVG and how he envisions Jeff’s relationship w KP. Excellent |
arkrud
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4/13/2018 8:36 PM
Markji wrote:No to Mark Jackson - too contentious. Too big of a name and ego for our young developing team. Why being black make coach relate better to the young players? "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Markji
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4/14/2018 6:50 AM LAST EDITED: 4/14/2018 6:53 AM
arkrud wrote:Markji wrote:No to Mark Jackson - too contentious. Too big of a name and ego for our young developing team. You didn't read my post very carefully. Being a black coach is "ONE" variable which I would rate as a positive. Not the only variable. My top 2 choices as of now are Fizdale and Blatt(who is not Black). So isn't it obvious that I also grade my choices on other qualities, like the qualities you have said. P.S. I am not black. The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.
Tom Clancy - author
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Swishfm3
Posts: 23225 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2003 Member: #392 |
4/14/2018 8:05 AM
Doesn't matter who the coach is. This roster is flawed, always has been, and too much money is tied up on mediocre players to be able to move "the needle". KP is NOT an "alpha" player and no real PG, with nothing significant coming in through the draft or free agency.
Knicks will be in the lottery again for the next 2 years (at least)...at that time, fans and media will again be wondering who will the Knicks bring in to be that next magical coach that will finally make KP into the MVP he is destined to be and turn Frank into a world class point guard. |
LivingLegend
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4/14/2018 8:28 AM
CrushAlot wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I thought the death of his friend in 9/11 was why Jeff left.Nalod wrote:JVG has not coached in 11 years. Not how I remember the situation and if it was does that really sound like a legit reason for you. What if we hire h8m and someone else close passes...is he gone again? Not a JVG hater...just worry we have been there done that...don’t recall many of these reach into the past and pull out a miracle coach th8ngs happening. Almost every franchise does it...reaches for ex that had good run and ultimately things level off. |
LivingLegend
Posts: 23778 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
4/14/2018 8:29 AM
I do think JVG would bring max out of KP....that may be his biggest +
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
4/14/2018 8:50 AM
It should be Stackhouse.
The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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Nalod
Posts: 68654 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/14/2018 8:53 AM
LivingLegend wrote:CrushAlot wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I thought the death of his friend in 9/11 was why Jeff left.Nalod wrote:JVG has not coached in 11 years. Do you repeat everything in you life as you did one before? |