fishmike wrote:I like Jeff and thought he could have been part of a turn around here. The fact that the FO didnt wait for exit interviews or anything is telling. They were done with him.

Hopefully they have someone already essentially picked out and agreed to. If it turns out to be some search its a bad sign

It’s not the NFL but there seemingly is some amount of credence to offering guys interviews and perhaps giving such opportunities to minorities as well.
I agree, I’d like to think its more about who they want then who they don’t.
I suppose the speed is because exit interviews are done almost right after the season. I also hope Jeff had a good idea about his fate and Knicks treated the situation well.

Nalod wrote:

fishmike wrote:I like Jeff and thought he could have been part of a turn around here. The fact that the FO didnt wait for exit interviews or anything is telling. They were done with him.

Hopefully they have someone already essentially picked out and agreed to. If it turns out to be some search its a bad sign

It’s not the NFL but there seemingly is some amount of credence to offering guys interviews and perhaps giving such opportunities to minorities as well.
I agree, I’d like to think its more about who they want then who they don’t.
I suppose the speed is because exit interviews are done almost right after the season. I also hope Jeff had a good idea about his fate and Knicks treated the situation well.

I hope they wait some for other teams to make decisions on their staff.

I was watching the Clipper telecast last night - and at one point they had Lawrence Frank on- he is pres. basketball operations - and it does not sound like Doc is going anywhere. Of course, they have to say certain things - but Jeff never got any kind of endorsement.

Agree that I want them to have a list - don't know if I need an immediate announcement- give time maybe for a round or two to finish, see if any big names pop open....

CrushAlot wrote:Rambis is out as well. I wonder if Noah is brought back. With Rambis is out is Beasely gone? I hope they make a smart hire before the draft.

I kept thinking, they told NOAH to chill out until next season, if we could get something for you will do it, if not, ONCE we canned these clowns we'll see you this summer in Vegas working out with young boys.

Most improve Player next season will be NOAH

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Yeah..Not jumping for joy on this one. I dont think Jeff is the problem. Its just lack of talent. With KP this team is around 35-38 wins this year. Not great but improved. Add a lottery pick and a ML FA and they could get into the 40s next season.

I would have been OK with Jeff for one more year. Stability is needed but.....

Going forward, I think DOc and MJax are the top 2 candidates. Both has Knick history and understand NY. I would take DOc over Mjax. He has won before. Mjax got GS going but got tossed for some reason. That is concerning.

Fizzdale is interesting...sleeper pick.

Blatt will get an interview as he is a friend.

Jay Wright would be foolish to leave Villanova. He's the best in CBB now. He gets paid well there.

No to Kidd.

Also Jeff's offense was nice to watch this year. I think his players liked him well except for Noah.

Agreed on Wright..coaches are hired to be fired in the NBA...Wright has total job security at Nova....However, some of these college coaches are curious to see if they can succeed at the highest level. New York, I'm sure will be intriguing to him.

This is Perry's first big move and he cannot screw this up...With that said, I cant see him taking a chance on Blatt, that hire will/can cost him his job if it doesn't work out. Doc is the safe pick; Fizdale is a gutsy pick. Before Memphis, he was at the top of the chart in terms of Assistant coaches who were next up....Really got a raw deal in Memphis. He had them playing good ball and they absolutely fell off the map once he was canned.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:I like Jeff and thought he could have been part of a turn around here. The fact that the FO didnt wait for exit interviews or anything is telling. They were done with him.

Hopefully they have someone already essentially picked out and agreed to. If it turns out to be some search its a bad sign

I know your not a fan of either, but It's probably BLATT or Mark Jack, maybe even JVG

I have no problem with Blatt. He would be logical and is a Mills/Perry guy. I dont want Mark Jackson because he's too dumb for NY and JVG is never coming back to the Knicks org and sure as hell aint working under Mills. Blatt makes a ton of sense.

Why is Jackson too dumb for NY? Personally, I do not want Jackson here either, but being too dumb isn't one of my reasons....

Uptown wrote:Jay Wright or Fizdale would be my top two choices....Fizdale got a raw deal in Memphis...

I can get behind these two! Perry and Mills are gonna want a Progressive Coach that has a great rapport with young players and knows how to develop them. Jeff was a guy more comfortable with Vets. That became clear over time.

Nevermind his relationship with Noah (brought that on himself). Telling Willy to tell KP he is playing like a bitch (Willy?) was a bitch move. Believe Hornacek got spoiled in Utah. As good as Jeff was, I think he forgot what its like to have two future HOFers on your team, doing most of the heavy lifting. Has to do a better job of relating to players who dont have a Stockton/Malone to pass to.

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

magicTs wrote:He deserved to be fired for allowing us to win 2 games in the last few days. That alone was reason enough. An absolute ****show of a season yet again. Good riddance.

Had a feeling he would be fired after they won last night. Pretty sure they would have asked him to tank if Hornacek was coming back. Tough for them to say "We're firing you Jeff, but would you mind adding a few more Ls to your record?

This is as much about the next coach as it was about this one.

I saw it coming because

1)Too many spats or disagreements with players..KP, Melo, jennings, KOQ, NOAH.

2)Too many 3rd quarter disappearing acts

3)the team quit on him during 1-17 stretch (part of which kp was still healthy)

4)failure too identify players roles

5)No system whatsoever

6)No consistent rotation

7)Poor development of young players

8)coming to the podium smiling and joking after 10 straight losses,like losing wasn't even fazing him

9)worst "final minute play calling coach" in knicks history

10)60-104= 36.5 winning%

Great personality though

3rd quarter disappearing acts were the top concern to me. That's all coaching.

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

magicTs wrote:He deserved to be fired for allowing us to win 2 games in the last few days. That alone was reason enough. An absolute ****show of a season yet again. Good riddance.

Had a feeling he would be fired after they won last night. Pretty sure they would have asked him to tank if Hornacek was coming back. Tough for them to say "We're firing you Jeff, but would you mind adding a few more Ls to your record?

This is as much about the next coach as it was about this one.

I saw it coming because

1)Too many spats or disagreements with players..KP, Melo, jennings, KOQ, NOAH.

2)Too many 3rd quarter disappearing acts

3)the team quit on him during 1-17 stretch (part of which kp was still healthy)

4)failure too identify players roles

5)No system whatsoever

6)No consistent rotation

7)Poor development of young players

8)coming to the podium smiling and joking after 10 straight losses,like losing wasn't even fazing him

9)worst "final minute play calling coach" in knicks history

10)60-104= 36.5 winning%

Great personality though

3rd quarter disappearing acts were the top concern to me. That's all coaching.

Not all coaching, players matter as well, but you're right it was an issue.