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MS
Posts: 26919 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
4/5/2018 10:55 AM
Terrible idea.
We are going to be bad again next year. All we have is our draft position right now, why jeopardize it for five more wins. And what happens when he gets hurt again and the free agent class of 2019 has some actual game changers, we can't sign because him and Noah and holding almost 46MM of our cap. Definitely not worth it. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/5/2018 2:36 PM
MS wrote:Terrible idea. This is a great opportunity for the knicks--the chance to get a VERY young talented player like this is not high. If Kanter opts out--we should really be all in here. RIP Crushalot😞
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wargames
Posts: 22833 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/27/2015 Member: #6053 |
4/5/2018 3:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:MS wrote:Terrible idea. If you were arguing this for Randle and even AG I would support you, but Jabari doesn't fit with KP and is injury prone. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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nykshaknbake
Posts: 22247 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/15/2003 Member: #492 |
4/5/2018 3:50 PM
No thanks. We aren't going to great in 2 years I'd rather not stretch Noah and get a worse draft pick in the process. Not to mention overpaying. We need to sign good value contracts so when we are ready to contend, we can overpay for a superstar to take us over the top. We've tried signing bad value deals first for 2 decades and it hasn't worked.
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martin
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4/5/2018 4:15 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:No thanks. We aren't going to great in 2 years I'd rather not stretch Noah and get a worse draft pick in the process. Not to mention overpaying. We need to sign good value contracts so when we are ready to contend, we can overpay for a superstar to take us over the top. We've tried signing bad value deals first for 2 decades and it hasn't worked. +10000000000 Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Nalod
Posts: 68677 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/5/2018 4:26 PM
Briggs, you tend to be a bit impulsive.
Lots of ideas but the reality is teams, and I mean all times have a capacity to make decisions and thus have limits to money and opportunities. There is a price by which he might be a good value given the things you mentioned. Giving a guy nearly 50million over two years is a bit steep. If he believes in himself he'll take a qualified offer for one year and stay in Mil and perhaps they can look at it at the end of next seasons. Not sure what Milwaukee knows what they are dong coach wise either. Not sure what they think of their guards. Yes, to get him you have to pay up big. Its a compelling concept Today but i'd say the draft will tell a tale for many franchises. If we draft a center, then we might be compelled to do this. IF Kanter opts back in and we draft one of the bridges? Or Trae young, well that just changes everything. |
reub
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4/5/2018 5:34 PM
We should be signing guys like Hezonja and Jerami Grant instead. They should both cost a LOT less and give us a better chance to strike gold. High draft picks this year and next plus continuing to get younger and more talented will make us a very good team in 2019-2020. That should be our timeline.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/5/2018 6:00 PM
reub wrote:We should be signing guys like Hezonja and Jerami Grant instead. They should both cost a LOT less and give us a better chance to strike gold. High draft picks this year and next plus continuing to get younger and more talented will make us a very good team in 2019-2020. That should be our timeline. In this league you only win big with certain types of players--you win 36 with those guys. Jabari can be an NBA star. In life there is risk reward--same with NBA. RIP Crushalot😞
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reub
Posts: 21836 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2016 Member: #6227 |
4/5/2018 6:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:reub wrote:We should be signing guys like Hezonja and Jerami Grant instead. They should both cost a LOT less and give us a better chance to strike gold. High draft picks this year and next plus continuing to get younger and more talented will make us a very good team in 2019-2020. That should be our timeline. But I don't want to strive for mediocrity. If we stay bad next season (without much of KP) we can get a top pick to add to this year's plus some more developing youth. This is a better formula for future greatness. Parker might get us to .500 and cause us to lose out on a top draft pick. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/5/2018 7:21 PM
reub wrote:BRIGGS wrote:reub wrote:We should be signing guys like Hezonja and Jerami Grant instead. They should both cost a LOT less and give us a better chance to strike gold. High draft picks this year and next plus continuing to get younger and more talented will make us a very good team in 2019-2020. That should be our timeline. Knicks are getting top pick this year:) frontline AAyton KP Parker RIP Crushalot😞
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Paris907
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4/6/2018 3:35 AM
Randle.
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blkexec
Posts: 27835 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
4/6/2018 6:08 AM
Briggs....you represent the old Layden days. Overpay for injured players based on age, like that makes a difference. He's knee isn't getting better, he's just over compensating with the surrounding parts. Based on our history alone with McDyess. And overpaying THj was another lesson learned. Adding Parker now is a move I see a young GM making, who doesn't understand our history and our direction.
Assuming Parker was healthy, I'm not convinced that KP is ready to be a 5. I rather treat KP like spurs did with Duncan. We need to draft Carter and allow KP to naturally grow into a 5. Carter might be 20, and already saying he's NBA ready.... Prior to Parkers injuries, and if KP was ready for a full time job at center, then I would agree with you. But.............Thats not the case. KP wants to and will play all over the floor. So he will try and stay agile and quick. He doesn't have that Kanter strength to bang down low all game, and then take a long 3 on the other end. KP needs his energy for offense....Let him do what he did last year, as a blind side shot blocker at the 4 position. Can Parker play SF? Kanter??? / (Free Agent / Rookie) I don't see it....You add Parker if he's a final piece. We have too many question marks in our starting lineup alone, and carrying too many large injury prone contracts like Noah. What Perry is doing is perfect. Finding cheap labor like Burke and Troy. Stay the course and stop trying to be an old 1980s back seat driver. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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Jmpasq
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4/6/2018 6:45 AM LAST EDITED: 4/6/2018 7:07 AM
martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Its a dam good gamble He will never take that, honestly Its a not a bad gamble considered once Porzingis maxs out we will essentially be capped out and unable to sign anyone else anyway. Also with Noahs horrendous deal on the books for 2 more agonizing years whats the difference anyway. We basically can't compete unitl that garbage is off the books. It could be a home run, if it blows up we free up cap space when Noah comes off anyway. I would of rather made this deal than to sign Hardaway jr. Just don't let the contract outrun Noah and its a good idea. 2 years 48 million, team option for year 3. Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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Paris907
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4/6/2018 7:40 AM LAST EDITED: 4/6/2018 7:46 AM
BRIGGS wrote: He’s also scored 5 andb8 subsequently. Do you like Will Barton? I mean Jabari was dynamic and shows flashes but despite our seemingly permanent state of desperateness, we need to avoid the trap. Parker doesn’t play D. Doesn’t have quickness for the 3 slot. KP, coming off surgery, needs a defensively capable 3 and 5 as to place the defensive load on him Off surgery would be nothing less than foolish and Parker and Kanter would be a nightmare defensively in Jr frontcourt |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/6/2018 8:08 AM
Paris907 wrote:BRIGGS wrote: We can go after hezonga but I don't think he is close to what Parker can be. It's going to take Parker 6 more months to be whole-- he'll still be 23. I think Parker in the right spot could still be special. A point that is made-- once we sign kp it will be difficult to sign a major player. RIP Crushalot😞
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