meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:No one tanks like Mudiay a -22 off/def rating, a sweet -13 tonight. Perry and Mills are geniuses. Fool everyone into thinking your rolling the dice on a former 7th pick but the truth is you know he will help you lose games. Perfect to throw off the anti-tanking contention. At least this is what I tell myself because if they think this guy can play, we are frickin doomed.

What if Mills and Perry actually think he can play. That is scary stuff right there. Hey but he is young.

you know what is scary? Making something up and then posting an emotional reaction to your own imagination.

Excuse me what is made up? I gave you a fact obviously Mills and Perry think he could play or he wouldn’t be on the Knicks. Another fact is I think that is scary if they do think he can play.

Fish stop acting like you got all the answers you don’t just like everyone here including me. All we doing is throwing darts at a wall blindfolded. What does it say about Mudiay that Denver developed another PG under his watch.

Only thing Mudiay is good for is the tank. Which is basically the title of the thread.

I dont have to act. Its incredibly easy to see from your comments you have zero idea what Mills and Perry think. But you had no problem with saying how your opinion of what they may think is scary.

Knicks have a scouting report on Mudiay like everyone else does. You have zero facts on what Perry and Mills think about Mudiay. You DO have some facts on what Perry and Mills think of McDermot. Mudiay? You are spouting out your butt and making stuff up. Scary to think indeed!

Knicks are learning about Mudiay the player and Mudiay the man. Doing so cost them McD. The day before this trade went down I said Mudiay was garbage. I applauded the trade. I still stick by both sentiments. McD wasnt getting resigned here. They saw what they wanted to see in McD. McD was 26 and ready for a new contract. The Knicks flipped him for another guy much younger signed for next year. This is called taking a cheap look at a prospect who's dropped. Scary you cant see how incredibly basic this trade was and why. Scary you need to make it into something dramatic. Stop being scared.

There you go again with your usually verbal BS assault. You know what is incredibly sad about you is that your dense. You can’t see that Mudiay shouldn’t even be on this team. This team has Burke and Ntlikina already these guys have him taking developmental time from Ntlikina and Dotson. What’s more important you develop your homegrown players or you give preference to a player that has been given up on because he has performed poorly. For some reason Mills and Perry think they can make it work for him here.

This part of the argument I agree with. Mudiay is garbage and is eating up minutes. Dotson can't get in the floor. I WOULD like to see us give him heavy minutes and hey him make mistakes that watch Mudiay do his thing, which is basically nothing.

Dotson played 35 minutes last night in Westchester. Lots of ways to develop young players. The W's also got XRM back.

Disagree. Dotson getting NBA minutes is more important than continuing with a failed experiment in Mudiay.

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:No one tanks like Mudiay a -22 off/def rating, a sweet -13 tonight. Perry and Mills are geniuses. Fool everyone into thinking your rolling the dice on a former 7th pick but the truth is you know he will help you lose games. Perfect to throw off the anti-tanking contention. At least this is what I tell myself because if they think this guy can play, we are frickin doomed.

What if Mills and Perry actually think he can play. That is scary stuff right there. Hey but he is young.

you know what is scary? Making something up and then posting an emotional reaction to your own imagination.

Excuse me what is made up? I gave you a fact obviously Mills and Perry think he could play or he wouldn’t be on the Knicks. Another fact is I think that is scary if they do think he can play.

Fish stop acting like you got all the answers you don’t just like everyone here including me. All we doing is throwing darts at a wall blindfolded. What does it say about Mudiay that Denver developed another PG under his watch.

Only thing Mudiay is good for is the tank. Which is basically the title of the thread.

I dont have to act. Its incredibly easy to see from your comments you have zero idea what Mills and Perry think. But you had no problem with saying how your opinion of what they may think is scary.

Knicks have a scouting report on Mudiay like everyone else does. You have zero facts on what Perry and Mills think about Mudiay. You DO have some facts on what Perry and Mills think of McDermot. Mudiay? You are spouting out your butt and making stuff up. Scary to think indeed!

Knicks are learning about Mudiay the player and Mudiay the man. Doing so cost them McD. The day before this trade went down I said Mudiay was garbage. I applauded the trade. I still stick by both sentiments. McD wasnt getting resigned here. They saw what they wanted to see in McD. McD was 26 and ready for a new contract. The Knicks flipped him for another guy much younger signed for next year. This is called taking a cheap look at a prospect who's dropped. Scary you cant see how incredibly basic this trade was and why. Scary you need to make it into something dramatic. Stop being scared.

There you go again with your usually verbal BS assault. You know what is incredibly sad about you is that your dense. You can’t see that Mudiay shouldn’t even be on this team. This team has Burke and Ntlikina already these guys have him taking developmental time from Ntlikina and Dotson. What’s more important you develop your homegrown players or you give preference to a player that has been given up on because he has performed poorly. For some reason Mills and Perry think they can make it work for him here.

This part of the argument I agree with. Mudiay is garbage and is eating up minutes. Dotson can't get in the floor. I WOULD like to see us give him heavy minutes and hey him make mistakes that watch Mudiay do his thing, which is basically nothing.

Dotson played 35 minutes last night in Westchester. Lots of ways to develop young players. The W's also got XRM back.

Disagree. Dotson getting NBA minutes is more important than continuing with a failed experiment in Mudiay.

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:No one tanks like Mudiay a -22 off/def rating, a sweet -13 tonight. Perry and Mills are geniuses. Fool everyone into thinking your rolling the dice on a former 7th pick but the truth is you know he will help you lose games. Perfect to throw off the anti-tanking contention. At least this is what I tell myself because if they think this guy can play, we are frickin doomed.

What if Mills and Perry actually think he can play. That is scary stuff right there. Hey but he is young.

you know what is scary? Making something up and then posting an emotional reaction to your own imagination.

Excuse me what is made up? I gave you a fact obviously Mills and Perry think he could play or he wouldn’t be on the Knicks. Another fact is I think that is scary if they do think he can play.

Fish stop acting like you got all the answers you don’t just like everyone here including me. All we doing is throwing darts at a wall blindfolded. What does it say about Mudiay that Denver developed another PG under his watch.

Only thing Mudiay is good for is the tank. Which is basically the title of the thread.

I dont have to act. Its incredibly easy to see from your comments you have zero idea what Mills and Perry think. But you had no problem with saying how your opinion of what they may think is scary.

Knicks have a scouting report on Mudiay like everyone else does. You have zero facts on what Perry and Mills think about Mudiay. You DO have some facts on what Perry and Mills think of McDermot. Mudiay? You are spouting out your butt and making stuff up. Scary to think indeed!

Knicks are learning about Mudiay the player and Mudiay the man. Doing so cost them McD. The day before this trade went down I said Mudiay was garbage. I applauded the trade. I still stick by both sentiments. McD wasnt getting resigned here. They saw what they wanted to see in McD. McD was 26 and ready for a new contract. The Knicks flipped him for another guy much younger signed for next year. This is called taking a cheap look at a prospect who's dropped. Scary you cant see how incredibly basic this trade was and why. Scary you need to make it into something dramatic. Stop being scared.

There you go again with your usually verbal BS assault. You know what is incredibly sad about you is that your dense. You can’t see that Mudiay shouldn’t even be on this team. This team has Burke and Ntlikina already these guys have him taking developmental time from Ntlikina and Dotson. What’s more important you develop your homegrown players or you give preference to a player that has been given up on because he has performed poorly. For some reason Mills and Perry think they can make it work for him here.

This part of the argument I agree with. Mudiay is garbage and is eating up minutes. Dotson can't get in the floor. I WOULD like to see us give him heavy minutes and hey him make mistakes that watch Mudiay do his thing, which is basically nothing.

Dotson played 35 minutes last night in Westchester. Lots of ways to develop young players. The W's also got XRM back.

Disagree. Dotson getting NBA minutes is more important than continuing with a failed experiment in Mudiay.

Mudiay isn't taking minutes away from Dotson. How many shooting guards do the Knicks need to force feed the point guard position to?

Mudiay is complete garbage and he isn't part of the Knicks plan. There's ZERO reason for him to get any minutes.

Nalod wrote:Mudiay has shown more than Dotson, and he is younger.

Shown more of what? Mudiay has had the opportunities for 3 years, but hasn't proven to be a rotation caliber PG to this point. Dotson hasn't proven anything either, but hasn't seen the opportunities yet to judge on him like we can Mudiay.

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:The big question that remains is, what was Larry Brown smoking?

He thought the kid needed coaching. Instead of getting a year of Larry, he went to china.
The question is:

Is the kid a finished product or not?

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:The big question that remains is, what was Larry Brown smoking?

He thought the kid needed coaching. Instead of getting a year of Larry, he went to china.
The question is:

Is the kid a finished product or not?

and he got hurt. Thing is Mudiay would be a monster in the NCAA

He would absolutely be a monster in college. But the thing is, people would look at him and say he's 22, getting by on his physical ability, but still can't shoot or finish, and therefore is likely to struggle in the league without those skills.

Then he would not be a 7th lotto pick. He is Tyreke Evens. DeMarr Derozen needed a few years to find his stride.
He is lessor shooting JR Smith.
What I don't know is what has Mudiay done to work on his game? Has he put in the work and it not take?
Has he been immature? I don't know. Larry Brown went crazy for the kid. He was part of that Deon Sanders fake ass high school. Not sure if this kid kind of cruzed in on some inflated self? He went to china, got hurt there. Lost development time. LIke I said, not sure I know a whole lot about his regimen.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:The big question that remains is, what was Larry Brown smoking?

He thought the kid needed coaching. Instead of getting a year of Larry, he went to china.
The question is:

Is the kid a finished product or not?

and he got hurt. Thing is Mudiay would be a monster in the NCAA

He would absolutely be a monster in college. But the thing is, people would look at him and say he's 22, getting by on his physical ability, but still can't shoot or finish, and therefore is likely to struggle in the league without those skills.

Then he would not be a 7th lotto pick. He is Tyreke Evens. DeMarr Derozen needed a few years to find his stride.
He is lessor shooting JR Smith.
What I don't know is what has Mudiay done to work on his game? Has he put in the work and it not take?
Has he been immature? I don't know. Larry Brown went crazy for the kid. He was part of that Deon Sanders fake ass high school. Not sure if this kid kind of cruzed in on some inflated self? He went to china, got hurt there. Lost development time. LIke I said, not sure I know a whole lot about his regimen.

I think he probably has coasted on his athletic ability and inflated ego- normal for kids to do that.

I think this summer is it for him and he probably will realize that. I'm hoping we can have a support plan in place. He needs to fix his shot, and there is no reason he can't.

And I'd say if there was 1 thing- it's that. 1b would be finishing around the rim- though we have a long history of PGs that struggle with that(Charlie Ward, Chris Childs!)

bumping this because I thought Mudiay looked great yesterday - maybe a wake up call being on the bench. Still had one bad drive to the hoop - but awesome full court pass and some great drives - ran the offense well.

If he can just develop his shot over the summer, that will be a huge step.