Paris907 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Nah

EnY... I said gentleman. Just Messin with you. If OQuinn is gone and Noah is gone and Kanter is gone, (or not), we will need live bigs to remain competitive. This guy was drafted very high and is youn enough to take a flyer on at the right price.

Noel is one of those low iq players everyone keeps raving about. He's the same player he was when he got drafted. Hasn't gotten stronger or smarter. Still looking like Beaker from the muppets

Jmpasq wrote:Why, do you like having our cap space be tied into overpaid, low IQ, flawed centers

Fixed

rammagen wrote:for the right price yes. for 2 simple reasons
1 he was screwed in Philly. they drafted center after center something can be worng wiht the players but it seemed like they were not interested developing their players. You have be an elite physical player before they even try
2 I do know what is happening in Dallas but I think Dirk's farwell has also screwed him ad that team is dirk concentric and they both play center. yes I would love for him to develop a shot but his defense would help the knock if KOQ walks

An intelligent response. Many thanks

rammagen wrote:for the right price yes. for 2 simple reasons
1 he was screwed in Philly. they drafted center after center something can be worng wiht the players but it seemed like they were not interested developing their players. You have be an elite physical player before they even try
2 I do know what is happening in Dallas but I think Dirk's farwell has also screwed him ad that team is dirk concentric and they both play center. yes I would love for him to develop a shot but his defense would help the knock if KOQ walks

There were rumblings about his attitude and/or maturity when with the Sixers, then this whole thing with the Mavs doesn't help dispel this. Basically he's spent the whole season (and a contract year) sulking (bought a hot dog at half time during a game). It's a huge red flag- even if you feel hard done by in contract extension negotiations, you at least play hard during your contract year as you're going to be a free agent, to not do so raises huge questions about someones maturity/attitude, I think.

I might try him out on a small contract but I wouldn't stump up big money.

on the flip side, there's a real chance our only center next year is Noah. Enes and KOQ may both be gone

Mike1989 wrote:If he takes a prove it contract, then he's worth the risk at a low price rather than giving O'Quinn $8-10+ million year. Maybe he finds a home here like Trey Burke potentially has? Worst case scenario Noel flames out here on a one or two year deal. Best case scenario he reaches his potential and becomes a very good rim protector and rebounder to take some defensive pressure off KP.

He did take a prove it contract this past year

martin wrote:

Mike1989 wrote:If he takes a prove it contract, then he's worth the risk at a low price rather than giving O'Quinn $8-10+ million year. Maybe he finds a home here like Trey Burke potentially has? Worst case scenario Noel flames out here on a one or two year deal. Best case scenario he reaches his potential and becomes a very good rim protector and rebounder to take some defensive pressure off KP.

He did take a prove it contract this past year

I wouldn't give him big money or a lot of years... I don't think Noel has proven to deserve anything more than a prove-it deal. But maybe he would take a KOQ type of deal?

Noel's advanced stats were good in Philly. I think Noel looks worse than he is because he's a defensive player on the Mavs... if the Knicks are buying low on guys like Burke, Mudiay (and Williams) I wouldn't be entirely opposed. A former lotto defensive pogo stick would be, in theory, a nice backup to KP and Kanter.

I am not a huge noel fan but he does seemingly fit the target profile of players that Perry is trying to acquire

SupremeCommander wrote:

martin wrote:

Mike1989 wrote:If he takes a prove it contract, then he's worth the risk at a low price rather than giving O'Quinn $8-10+ million year. Maybe he finds a home here like Trey Burke potentially has? Worst case scenario Noel flames out here on a one or two year deal. Best case scenario he reaches his potential and becomes a very good rim protector and rebounder to take some defensive pressure off KP.

He did take a prove it contract this past year

I wouldn't give him big money or a lot of years... I don't think Noel has proven to deserve anything more than a prove-it deal. But maybe he would take a KOQ type of deal?

Noel's advanced stats were good in Philly. I think Noel looks worse than he is because he's a defensive player on the Mavs... if the Knicks are buying low on guys like Burke, Mudiay (and Williams) I wouldn't be entirely opposed. A former lotto defensive pogo stick would be, in theory, a nice backup to KP and Kanter.

I am not a huge noel fan but he does seemingly fit the target profile of players that Perry is trying to acquire

Mike1989 wrote:

martin wrote:

Mike1989 wrote:If he takes a prove it contract, then he's worth the risk at a low price rather than giving O'Quinn $8-10+ million year. Maybe he finds a home here like Trey Burke potentially has? Worst case scenario Noel flames out here on a one or two year deal. Best case scenario he reaches his potential and becomes a very good rim protector and rebounder to take some defensive pressure off KP.

He did take a prove it contract this past year

True, but he's not been given an opportunity: 18 games, 6 starts, 225 minutes.

His per 36 are actually ok he's averaging 11.5 points, 11.7 rebounds and 1.6 blocks. If he could replicate that production he would have value. But to do that he needs to be on a team that actually plays him. It's like being critical of Okafor. The 76ers stopped using him and the Nets aren't really giving him a fair shot.

Or you could say both players just aren’t showing up. Man both Noel and Okafor were given second chances and both are blowing them