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rpknicks
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2/7/2018  8:33 PM
To not get more deals done in the next 24 hours would be a failure for the knicks. I don't expect any home runs, but we can't strike out either. I think the willy deal was fair and in a tight market, a positive move.

Lee has to go now. Best case scenario is a future first but I think we're going to see another pair of 2nd rounders. Perry's hand is a bit exposed ( now that most of the world believes we should be tanking) and I just don't see any obvious takers with the goods. Boston popped up as they have the assets and with the run they are making this year, could use a steady vet in the playoffs.

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2/7/2018  8:36 PM
Agree. Obviously KOQ trade would be ideal. If they could somehow get a first for Lee that would be terrific
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2/7/2018  8:38 PM
Perry will get drunk with Dolan and forget about the deadline. Then he’ll make the worst deal possible.
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2/7/2018  8:44 PM
I think it's good that we've given up on this season early enough to do something about it. The only ethical way to do this is by trading our talent away so that our players can play as hard as they can... and still lose. They're still playing for jobs next year.

I think if we're lucky we'll get a second rounder for Lee. An interesting possibility is trading for a player like Smart, basically someone on a rookie year contract that doesn't have any more "automatic" options. As I understand it, if we were to trade for him, as a 4th year player, the team that has his rights just has to put out a qualifying offer that is 30% higher than his 4th year salary. At this point the player can accept the offer, or find a contract from another team and the Knicks would have the right to match.

This approach would apply to players from the 2014 NBA draft.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2014.html

In any case, I'm glad our direction is clear for the remainder of this season.

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2/7/2018  8:45 PM
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2/7/2018  8:52 PM
rpknicks wrote:To not get more deals done in the next 24 hours would be a failure for the knicks. I don't expect any home runs, but we can't strike out either. I think the willy deal was fair and in a tight market, a positive move.

Lee has to go now. Best case scenario is a future first but I think we're going to see another pair of 2nd rounders. Perry's hand is a bit exposed ( now that most of the world believes we should be tanking) and I just don't see any obvious takers with the goods. Boston popped up as they have the assets and with the run they are making this year, could use a steady vet in the playoffs.

I think the obvious place for Lee is OKC. Not sure what they have to give up in a trade though.
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2/7/2018  9:20 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
rpknicks wrote:To not get more deals done in the next 24 hours would be a failure for the knicks. I don't expect any home runs, but we can't strike out either. I think the willy deal was fair and in a tight market, a positive move.

Lee has to go now. Best case scenario is a future first but I think we're going to see another pair of 2nd rounders. Perry's hand is a bit exposed ( now that most of the world believes we should be tanking) and I just don't see any obvious takers with the goods. Boston popped up as they have the assets and with the run they are making this year, could use a steady vet in the playoffs.

I think the obvious place for Lee is OKC. Not sure what they have to give up in a trade though.

Actually, this a perfect location for him. He can play D like Roberson, but unlike Andre, Lee can actually shoot the ball. He would be a perfect fit because he is fine playing without the ball and spotting up.

Not sure what they could give us, as you say, but they're also cap challenged at this point- looks like they are only surpassed in salaries by GS and the Cavs.

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2/7/2018  9:43 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
rpknicks wrote:To not get more deals done in the next 24 hours would be a failure for the knicks. I don't expect any home runs, but we can't strike out either. I think the willy deal was fair and in a tight market, a positive move.

Lee has to go now. Best case scenario is a future first but I think we're going to see another pair of 2nd rounders. Perry's hand is a bit exposed ( now that most of the world believes we should be tanking) and I just don't see any obvious takers with the goods. Boston popped up as they have the assets and with the run they are making this year, could use a steady vet in the playoffs.

I think the obvious place for Lee is OKC. Not sure what they have to give up in a trade though.

Actually, this a perfect location for him. He can play D like Roberson, but unlike Andre, Lee can actually shoot the ball. He would be a perfect fit because he is fine playing without the ball and spotting up.

Not sure what they could give us, as you say, but they're also cap challenged at this point- looks like they are only surpassed in salaries by GS and the Cavs.

How about KOQ, Lee for Patterson, Ferguson and Abrines? Salaries work. Do it?

Patterson is 2 more years but only at $5M. Abrines 1 more year at $5.5

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2/8/2018  6:10 AM
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2/8/2018  8:46 AM
so other teams are out to help the Knicks? Are bad deals better than no deals? This makes zero sense.
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2/8/2018  9:54 AM
fishmike wrote:so other teams are out to help the Knicks? Are bad deals better than no deals? This makes zero sense.

Seriously.... so our gm is supposed to make multiple trades in less than 24 gotta and they all gotta be grand slams? Sheesh

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2/8/2018  10:12 AM
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GustavBahler wrote:Shaka, when the walls fell...

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2/8/2018  10:18 AM
EnySpree wrote:
fishmike wrote:so other teams are out to help the Knicks? Are bad deals better than no deals? This makes zero sense.

Seriously.... so our gm is supposed to make multiple trades in less than 24 gotta and they all gotta be grand slams? Sheesh

I expect them to trade Lee for another center because he has 1 yr less on his contract, that seems to be the pattern

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2/8/2018  10:32 AM
The Minnesota Timberwolves and Oklahoma City Thunder are expected to have interest in veteran center Joakim Noah if he's waived or bought out by the New York Knicks, league executives told ESPN's Ian Begley.

The Knicks may look for a deal involving Noah ahead of Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trade deadline, but that would be a tall order given the fact his contract has two years left after this season at nearly $38 million.


Noah is away from the team after a run-in with head coach Jeff Hornacek, and isn't expected to suit up for the Knicks again. He remains opposed to a contract buyout, according to Begley.

The 32-year-old former Defensive Player of the Year played under Wolves coach Tom Thibodeau with the Chicago Bulls, and his college coach, Billy Donovan, is the Thunder bench boss.

I really would take anything for NOAH, I would even take a contract that matches his if the player can fill a void (pg,sf,pf)

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2/8/2018  3:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
The Minnesota Timberwolves and Oklahoma City Thunder are expected to have interest in veteran center Joakim Noah if he's waived or bought out by the New York Knicks, league executives told ESPN's Ian Begley.

The Knicks may look for a deal involving Noah ahead of Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trade deadline, but that would be a tall order given the fact his contract has two years left after this season at nearly $38 million.


Noah is away from the team after a run-in with head coach Jeff Hornacek, and isn't expected to suit up for the Knicks again. He remains opposed to a contract buyout, according to Begley.

The 32-year-old former Defensive Player of the Year played under Wolves coach Tom Thibodeau with the Chicago Bulls, and his college coach, Billy Donovan, is the Thunder bench boss.

I really would take anything for NOAH, I would even take a contract that matches his if the player can fill a void (pg,sf,pf)

You make it sound like those deals are just lined up for the taking. Why not post a few ideas to turn the concept into a tangable fantasy?
at the very least.

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