franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

what did you see him do? Did he play defense last year? After a nice rookie season the scouting report is good offensive player, no defense, no rim protection. If you covet that Greg Monroe just signed for $5mm.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

I think this trade was all about his request, you can not have a player complaining of PT in your locker room.

There is no reason for me to believe this was the best offer, this was a super conservative trade, zero risk.

Mills and perry have been involved in such losing culture for so long, it doesn't bother them to any real extent.

BigRedDog wrote:league going crazy with trades
Perry doing his Donnie Walsh impersonation, taking a mid afternoon nap and telling his secretary not to wake him
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

what did you see him do? Did he play defense last year? After a nice rookie season the scouting report is good offensive player, no defense, no rim protection. If you covet that Greg Monroe just signed for $5mm.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

I think this trade was all about his request, you can not have a player complaining of PT in your locker room.

There is no reason for me to believe this was the best offer, this was a super conservative trade, zero risk.

Mills and perry have been involved in such losing culture for so long, it doesn't bother them to any real extent.

They are rebuilding. They have said this. Look around. Willy wasnt bringing back a star player or a first rounder. He couldnt beat KOQ for minutes and when he got them he looked terrible.

Knicks got young and more athletic moving McD for Mudiay, and they get 2nd rounders for a guy who didnt want to be here. When was the last time a 2nd round pick asked for a trade? But yea... you know. You know Mills and Perry had better offers. STFU your a donkey

Skudra wrote:Grade D for FO
Lee, KOQ, LT and still there, only traded two young guys for Mudiay who have average (at best) shot, cant defend and is TO machine.

Tell the deals for Lee, KOQ and LT that the FO didnt make. I love when people make assumptions on info they dont have then judge on those assumptions.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

what did you see him do? Did he play defense last year? After a nice rookie season the scouting report is good offensive player, no defense, no rim protection. If you covet that Greg Monroe just signed for $5mm.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

I think this trade was all about his request, you can not have a player complaining of PT in your locker room.

There is no reason for me to believe this was the best offer, this was a super conservative trade, zero risk.

Mills and perry have been involved in such losing culture for so long, it doesn't bother them to any real extent.

you are really the worst dude. You make crap up then make up more crap to back it up.

They are rebuilding. They have said this. Look around. Willy wasnt bringing back a star player or a first rounder. He couldnt beat KOQ for minutes and when he got them he looked terrible.

Knicks got young and more athletic moving McD for Mudiay, and they get 2nd rounders for a guy who didnt want to be here. When was the last time a 2nd round pick asked for a trade? But yea... you know. You know Mills and Perry had better offers. STFU your a donkey

Think Fish is on Tilt. His predictions for Noah,Phil,,Frank,Rose etc etc, and now KP hurt.

I don't know if you remember saying this. Since it was so long ago but...now you think he is what?

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2/8/2018 11:22 AM
Have you watched Mudiay? He's a bad NBA player

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

what did you see him do? Did he play defense last year? After a nice rookie season the scouting report is good offensive player, no defense, no rim protection. If you covet that Greg Monroe just signed for $5mm.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

I think this trade was all about his request, you can not have a player complaining of PT in your locker room.

There is no reason for me to believe this was the best offer, this was a super conservative trade, zero risk.

Mills and perry have been involved in such losing culture for so long, it doesn't bother them to any real extent.

you are really the worst dude. You make crap up then make up more crap to back it up.

They are rebuilding. They have said this. Look around. Willy wasnt bringing back a star player or a first rounder. He couldnt beat KOQ for minutes and when he got them he looked terrible.

Knicks got young and more athletic moving McD for Mudiay, and they get 2nd rounders for a guy who didnt want to be here. When was the last time a 2nd round pick asked for a trade? But yea... you know. You know Mills and Perry had better offers. STFU your a donkey

Think Fish is on Tilt. His predictions for Noah,Phil,,Frank,Rose etc etc, and now KP hurt.

I don't know if you remember saying this. Since it was so long ago but...now you think he is what?

fishmike
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2/8/2018 11:22 AM
Have you watched Mudiay? He's a bad NBA player

Great trade. I am not high on Mudiay. He's been a bad NBA player. However we want to get more athletic and faster. McD had totally faded and FO clearly sees no future for him here. We arent going to spend money to resign him and we arent doing anything this summer FA wise, so for $5mm or whatever is on Mudiay's rookie deal we get a year to look at a 21 year athletic guard.
Gut feeling is Mudiay is another Thanasis type.. athletic but not skilled enough to play that position. That being said this is a super smart trade and we get Horn more guard talent to work with. Smart move by Perry. Considering where the Knicks are this is a solid A move. Got a 21 year old prospect worth a look for nothing.

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:So if Willy is so great and the rest of the NBA knows it but Perry /Mills don’t.....why did NOBODY offer up more than 2 2nds?

It’s not due to devaluing him because evaluators would still grab the talent if the talent is cheap.

Bottom line as in 9o% of trades....we got what the market offered

WARNING WARNING! LOGIC ALERT! LOGIC ALERT!

I can't believe we couldn't have down better. And how exactly do we know Perry didn't just find the one place with as much depth ahead of him as here to stick it to him?

I want to believe our GM wasn't acting vengefully. I do.

Just, I have a hard time getting excited about two future first round draft picks after what I saw Willy do here last year.

what did you see him do? Did he play defense last year? After a nice rookie season the scouting report is good offensive player, no defense, no rim protection. If you covet that Greg Monroe just signed for $5mm.

Also dont you think the FO knows what he can and cant do? You cant believe Knicks didnt get more... dont you think they tried? I mean the assumptions made around here are mind numbing.

I liked Willy too. He couldnt break the rotation and demanded to be traded. When he did play he showed no sense of urgency. If you read around many think he's back in Spain after his NBA deal is up

I think this trade was all about his request, you can not have a player complaining of PT in your locker room.

There is no reason for me to believe this was the best offer, this was a super conservative trade, zero risk.

Mills and perry have been involved in such losing culture for so long, it doesn't bother them to any real extent.

you are really the worst dude. You make crap up then make up more crap to back it up.

They are rebuilding. They have said this. Look around. Willy wasnt bringing back a star player or a first rounder. He couldnt beat KOQ for minutes and when he got them he looked terrible.

Knicks got young and more athletic moving McD for Mudiay, and they get 2nd rounders for a guy who didnt want to be here. When was the last time a 2nd round pick asked for a trade? But yea... you know. You know Mills and Perry had better offers. STFU your a donkey

Think Fish is on Tilt. His predictions for Noah,Phil,,Frank,Rose etc etc, and now KP hurt.

I don't know if you remember saying this. Since it was so long ago but...now you think he is what?

fishmike
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Have you watched Mudiay? He's a bad NBA player

I know the internet is very challenging for you to navigate so Ill provide you the quote:

Great trade. I am not high on Mudiay. He's been a bad NBA player. However we want to get more athletic and faster. McD had totally faded and FO clearly sees no future for him here. We arent going to spend money to resign him and we arent doing anything this summer FA wise, so for $5mm or whatever is on Mudiay's rookie deal we get a year to look at a 21 year athletic guard.
Gut feeling is Mudiay is another Thanasis type.. athletic but not skilled enough to play that position. That being said this is a super smart trade and we get Horn more guard talent to work with. Smart move by Perry. Considering where the Knicks are this is a solid A move. Got a 21 year old prospect worth a look for nothing.

LMAO. Wow, so at 11am you said he sucked and by 230 he was all of sudden a "Great trade"?

Fish!! Tilt? Possibly. Calling Knicks1248 a donkey and telling him to STFU? Its just opinions. We can only say that to Meloshouldgo.

Btw. Mudiay will push your lottery pick out.