Here is the problem with that: Even if they were buyers at the deadline, and they sacrificed young assets to bolster the team this year, this is not a playoff team! So, in essence, what would have ended up happening is that Horny would have continued to play all the vets heavy minutes (i.e. Jack, Lee, Lance) while hindering the young players development, and we would win a few more games, yet not make the playoffs, which would be a worst case scenario for this franchise. All that does is give them a much worse pick in this year's deep lottery in the last year with the current rules giving tanking teams a weighted advantage at a much higher pick.

Now KP's untimely season ending injury happens. Management has to pause and reflect. And change direction. They are definitely not making the playoffs this year without KP and are forced to become sellers at the deadline while sacrificing the season on rebuilding and developing players for the future (which is what they should have been doing in the first place).

Now Horny does not feel the pressure to win games to keep his job. The expectations lower and Perry and Mills have a built in excuse to sell, sell, sell and play the youth this year.

The end result: they lose more games, get a much higher pick and another chance at a franchise player like KP in this draft. They develop the youth we have on this team through playing time and assess who they keep gong forward.

Moreover, I've resigned to the fact that KP--because of his slight frame and durability issues--is not a franchise player anymore, in the sense that he is a #1 option on a contending team. He is still a special player with a unique skill set and a perennial all-star, but I don't see him as carrying the franchise anymore. He's better suited at being the # 2 on a contending team, which makes it even more important to get a higher pick this year and get a franchise changing talent.

That's how KP's injury could be a blessing in disguise for the future of the franchise because it forces management to be doing what they should have been doing all along.

we are not going to playoffs this year anyway, so all this bullkrap is a good thing for everybody

Gudris wrote:agree
This injury is best case scenario for KP and Knicks
1) KP will come back stronger and smarter, this year he already looked tired and developing bad habits
2) Knicks have time to develop team and players who can win without KP, this is better for KP and team overall

we are not going to playoffs this year anyway, so all this bullkrap is a good thing for everybody

So going forward all attention has to be to get the best players available in this years draft,

THat means getting as many picks as possible while losing as many GAMES as possible.

If they do not make a couple more deals to get picks before tomorrow, they are stupid.

I would keep Frank, Dotson, Hardaway.....anyone else?

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I think that you have to go into the next draft thinking that you have to draft a franchise player. Someone to build around. We can no longer count on KP to be that guy. Sad but true. I am not saying he cannot be a great 1A still but I doubt he can be THE guy anymore.

So going forward all attention has to be to get the best players available in this years draft,

THat means getting as many picks as possible while losing as many GAMES as possible.

If they do not make a couple more deals to get picks before tomorrow, they are stupid.

I would keep Frank, Dotson, Hardaway.....anyone else?

I disagree about KP not being that guy to build around. This injury doesn't change that. But i do agree we need to get another future all-star anyways. This franchise completely hinges on that. And yes, you named the keepers. KP, Frank, Dotson, Hardaway, and our picks this upcoming draft.

Knixkik wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I think that you have to go into the next draft thinking that you have to draft a franchise player. Someone to build around. We can no longer count on KP to be that guy. Sad but true. I am not saying he cannot be a great 1A still but I doubt he can be THE guy anymore.

So going forward all attention has to be to get the best players available in this years draft,

THat means getting as many picks as possible while losing as many GAMES as possible.

If they do not make a couple more deals to get picks before tomorrow, they are stupid.

I would keep Frank, Dotson, Hardaway.....anyone else?

I disagree about KP not being that guy to build around. This injury doesn't change that. But i do agree we need to get another future all-star anyways. This franchise completely hinges on that. And yes, you named the keepers. KP, Frank, Dotson, Hardaway, and our picks this upcoming draft.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Prior to KP's devastating torn ACL last night on a dunk, the Knicks were heading into the trading deadline still trying to win games and make the playoffs this year. Had KP not gotten hurt and lost for the rest of the season, there was a good chance the Knicks would have been buyers instead of sellers at the deadline trying to make a playoff push this year.

Here is the problem with that: Even if they were buyers at the deadline, and they sacrificed young assets to bolster the team this year, this is not a playoff team! So, in essence, what would have ended up happening is that Horny would have continued to play all the vets heavy minutes (i.e. Jack, Lee, Lance) while hindering the young players development, and we would win a few more games, yet not make the playoffs, which would be a worst case scenario for this franchise. All that does is give them a much worse pick in this year's deep lottery in the last year with the current rules giving tanking teams a weighted advantage at a much higher pick.

Now KP's untimely season ending injury happens. Management has to pause and reflect. And change direction. They are definitely not making the playoffs this year without KP and are forced to become sellers at the deadline while sacrificing the season on rebuilding and developing players for the future (which is what they should have been doing in the first place).

Now Horny does not feel the pressure to win games to keep his job. The expectations lower and Perry and Mills have a built in excuse to sell, sell, sell and play the youth this year.

The end result: they lose more games, get a much higher pick and another chance at a franchise player like KP in this draft. They develop the youth we have on this team through playing time and assess who they keep gong forward.

Moreover, I've resigned to the fact that KP--because of his slight frame and durability issues--is not a franchise player anymore, in the sense that he is a #1 option on a contending team. He is still a special player with a unique skill set and a perennial all-star, but I don't see him as carrying the franchise anymore. He's better suited at being the # 2 on a contending team, which makes it even more important to get a higher pick this year and get a franchise changing talent.

That's how KP's injury could be a blessing in disguise for the future of the franchise because it forces management to be doing what they should have been doing all along.

Jmpasq wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:If you need your franchise player to tear his ACL in order to force the front office to have a smarter outlook, then you have huge problems.

Its nonsense, How anyone can think an ACL injury is a blessing

No one wants KP to get hurt. If you can't get past the surface level of that, I don't know what to say.

David Robinson getting hurt was a blessing in disguise for SA. Maybe it could be for NY.

I will be satisfied if KP comes back healthy, and a more well rounded player.