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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
2/7/2018 12:03 PM
I have no idea what people are complaining about. We finally have a management team that knows how to deal. We got Kanter McDermott etc for Melo and we got a player AND 2 picks for No defense Willy????
Talk about value. Willy was what... a 2nd round pick right? Why do people feel that with 2 second round picks that Knocks mgmt cannot find another Dotson type with a bigger body. I for one LOVE this trade Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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martin
Posts: 68676 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
2/7/2018 12:03 PM
fishmike wrote:martin wrote:I think he meant the Nets but really, whats the diff.franco12 wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:another dagger in my fandom for this franchise. haha I missed that Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
2/7/2018 12:05 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Not even current picks. 2020 and 2021 2nd round picks. |
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NYKBocker
Posts: 37948 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
2/7/2018 12:06 PM
I love Willy but getting 2 2nd round picks is pretty good. Basically, his value was a late 1st or 2 2nd rounders and we got that.
This is a good deal. |
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franco12
Posts: 33192 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
2/7/2018 12:07 PM
fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:watching Jeff all year? Getting Frank 20mpg? Benching Beas to have him come back as one of our best scorer? Lee/KOQ have career years? KP to the all star game... yea Jeff has been bad. Not. Thats cool. Nets look great. I always enjoyed Quincy Acy.fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:another dagger in my fandom for this franchise. With our dearth of talent, someone has to play and score points. KOQ career year? I love KOQ, but you can't hold him up and his 16 minutes, 6.5 points and 5.6 rebound averages as an example of Jeff's coaching greatness. Jeff has done an ok job. However, of late, the team and KP struggled. KP was tired, and his numbers have been dropping all year after a super November start. KP clearly has a conditioning issue - yes, he is young- but he started last year the same and finished the same. Is anyone in the FO monitoring the situation? Are they not seeing the bad habits he has developed and the poor shooting from a 7'3" player- who should have an eFG over 50% When KP said he was tired on 1/4/2018, he goes out and then is played 37 mins |
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
2/7/2018 12:09 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I love Willy but getting 2 2nd round picks is pretty good. Basically, his value was a late 1st or 2 2nd rounders and we got that.Hernangómez declared for the 2015 NBA draft, and was selected with the 35th overall pick by the Philadelphia 76ers. His rights were later traded to the New York Knicks on draft night, in exchange for two future second round draft choices and cash considerations So basically whatever we gave up for him when we drafted him...we have it back Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37541 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/7/2018 12:09 PM
Zebo13 wrote:I doubt they were offered anything better. Guy was NEVER going to be able to defend. Had to go. Hornets are rebuilding and will have low 2nd RD picks for years to come. More opportunities to get real NBA players not fools gold. This what I'm thinking. Willy has decent potential. But, as he is now, his style of play is not in style. I'm sure we would've jumped on an offer where a first was offered. Not too upset. Would rather have traded O'Quinn, but Willy's salary makes him easy too move. I rooted for Willy and penciled him as starter at the beginning of the year, but KOQ and Kanter outplayed him. No hatred. I would've liked to see the kid respond better to adversity, but he still has some maturing to do. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Cartman718
Posts: 29068 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
2/7/2018 12:09 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hardaway Lee Kanter are next
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
2/7/2018 12:10 PM
Cartman718 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Hardaway Lee Kanter are nextGot an update on my phone that they are trying to move Lee, KOQ and Noah. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27195 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/7/2018 12:11 PM
Cartman718 wrote:I have no idea what people are complaining about. We finally have a management team that knows how to deal. We got Kanter McDermott etc for Melo and we got a player AND 2 picks for No defense Willy???? O'bryant is Expiring. Hornets 55 pick this year? 2nd in 2019, 2020? Think we could have waited for a better positioned pick in 2018. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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Nalod
Posts: 68677 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
2/7/2018 12:11 PM
Two picks? Gee, we all want those players who turn out and having now 3 picks is how you create opportunities!!!!
Willy? He did good last year, we sucked. he could not beat out KOQ or Kanter. We might still have Noah. Johnny O, not exactly great but has an outside shot. Two picks? When are they? what year? Trade Fodder. KP knows Willy's game. He might love his friend but does he respect his work ethic? Im not picking willy over our front office. They are what they do and the outcome is on them. Maybe more to this trade after. Then judge. Usually fans get most of this wrong anyway. Easy to shyt on everything after allstar 22 year old blows out his knee. Including the 22 year old allstar! |
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NYKBocker
Posts: 37948 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
2/7/2018 12:12 PM
Cartman718 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Fixed. |
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
2/7/2018 12:12 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Clean
Posts: 28698 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/22/2004 Member: #743 |
2/7/2018 12:13 PM
Cartman718 wrote:I have no idea what people are complaining about. We finally have a management team that knows how to deal. We got Kanter McDermott etc for Melo and we got a player AND 2 picks for No defense Willy???? I agree. I thought it was weird people in this thread keep saying this is a terrible trade when Willy himself was a 2nd Rounder. I could understand if he proved himself but he has not done that yet. From the start of this year I wanted no drama. Willy has been harping on playing time the whole year. So I have no problem for them giving him the boot. Noah is next. |
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27195 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/7/2018 12:14 PM
fishmike wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Willy was making no money. His contract should have been a huge selling point.martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: obviously dont know what else was out there but was hoiping they could deal with Phoenix, Orlando. Atlanta or even Toronto to get a higher 2nd rounder. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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Nalod
Posts: 68677 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
2/7/2018 12:16 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Cartman718 wrote:I have no idea what people are complaining about. We finally have a management team that knows how to deal. We got Kanter McDermott etc for Melo and we got a player AND 2 picks for No defense Willy???? "I think"...... |
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27195 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/7/2018 12:17 PM LAST EDITED: 2/7/2018 12:18 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
2/7/2018 12:17 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37541 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/7/2018 12:17 PM
Welpee wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Not even current picks. 2020 and 2021 2nd round picks. We were running low on second- rounders for the next few upcoming drafts, so it's good that we could replenish them. http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/20417753/nba-draft-assets-traded-picks-all-30-teams Owned NYK: 2018 first-round pick CHI: 2018 second-round pick CLE/HOU/ORL: 2019 second-round pick (least favorable of CLE, ORL and HOU to NYK) NYK: 2019 first-round pick NYK: 2020 first-round pick NYK: 2021 first-round pick NYK: 2022 first-round pick NYK: 2022 second-round pick NYK: 2023 first-round pick NYK: 2023 second-round pick NYK: 2024 first-round pick NYK: 2024 second-round pick Owed 2018 second-round pick to PHI (more favorable of NYK and LAC to PHI, less favorable to NYK) 2019 second-round pick to BKN 2020 second-round pick to ORL or PHI (more favorable of NYK and BKN to PHI, less favorable to ORL) 2021 second-round pick to PHI Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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