WaltLongmire wrote:Not saying the Knicks are as good as the Spurs were when Robinson got hurt...of course we aren't, but KP's injury opens up possibilities for getting a much better pick than I figured we could get in the draft based on our talent level this year. No way in the world the Spurs should have been in the running for Duncan with Robinson healthy, but it changed their history.

We have 23 wins now...the worst teams in the league have 17. Right now we are near #10 in the draft...I have no problem if we went into a younger player tank mode. I'm not really up on the top players in this draft, but will start looking at them now. We might very well be in the 3-7 range...no?

I'd trade off Lee and KOQ at this point, and Lance, if any team would give us a #2 for him. I prefer to keep Willy- my feeling is that we will regret letting him go if we do it...he needs court time to reach the consistency he started to show us last year. I don't think you get a great #1 for him if you give him up, and his value is lower than ever right now.

I would not trade KP...He still has maturing to do, and injuries aren't like they used to be in terms of slowing down a player. I'm figuring that his injury allows KP to see the need to get stronger.

Kanter and Willy should get a lot of play, and I'd bring up the big kid from Westchester, Kornet, to see what he looks like. Maybe others know who we might bring up from Westchester.

I'd give Frank, Trey, Dotson, McDermott, and Beasley more consistent playing time. We have Frank and Dotson under contract, but need to see if Burke, Dougie, and Beasley are keepers. Beasley has to show me he can do more than play ISO ball, though. I know he is a great 1/1 player, but I think we need to see other things from him on offense.

I have no issues sitting down Jack, or even releasing him. He's been a warrior, but unless we go on some kind of hot streak, which is doubtful, there is no reason to play him since he is not our future. Give Trey and Frank a lot of time at the 1 (& time to Frank at SG),and make sure Dotson gets a steady number of minutes, starting at 15mpg.

I'm looking at KPs injury in as positive a light as I can, assuming it is not worse than I'm hoping it is, and I think we'd be stupid to be buyers and not sellers as the trade deadline approaches.

I just see it as a chance to do better in the draft, and gives us justification to trade off players I would not have given up if we had a chance at making the playoffs. Not sure of the rules, by the way, but couldn't KOQ come back next year by opting out of his contract...assuming we want him back and he wants to play here?

Tough break, but who knows, maybe it helps us in the long run.

Now we are talkin.

Go get Ayton or Bagely to be Tim to KP's David.

BRIGGS wrote:Robinson hurt his knee much earlier in the season. We need a miracle to close on 9 teams with a fairly lengthy distance away with only 29 to go. If we can do 4-25-- something like that but the Knicks franchise will be playing Jarrett jack 36 minutes in game 82

We only have 27 games left. 3-24 or 4-23 are very possible if we trade well over the next 48hrs. We are only 6 games better than the worst teams now and several of them will definitely catch us.

magicTs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Robinson hurt his knee much earlier in the season. We need a miracle to close on 9 teams with a fairly lengthy distance away with only 29 to go. If we can do 4-25-- something like that but the Knicks franchise will be playing Jarrett jack 36 minutes in game 82

We only have 27 games left. 3-24 or 4-23 are very possible if we trade well over the next 48hrs. We are only 6 games better than the worst teams now and several of them will definitely catch us.

smackeddog wrote:Unfortunately it's too late this season to catch up with the bottom 5 teams, and next season they're changing the lottery odds specifically to reduce the advantage of the worst team in landing the top pick. It honestly couldn't have happened at a worse time

Hornacek has to coach for the future & I don't mean playing to lose. He should just let the younger players play through their mistakes and down moments.

Will be interesting to see how the Knicks brass plays this. If we still have KOQ and Lee after the trade deadline...if we stand pat and refuse to make trades which open up time for younger players, then you have expect that getting a top 4 pick really is impossible.

BRIGGS wrote:Robinson hurt his knee much earlier in the season. We need a miracle to close on 9 teams with a fairly lengthy distance away with only 29 to go. If we can do 4-25-- something like that but the Knicks franchise will be playing Jarrett jack 36 minutes in game 82

Yep its to late, we would really have to go on a 20 game losing streak to get anywhere near that. I will tell you whats going to happen next year we will do this in reverse where Porzingis comes back and destroys a chance at the number 1 pick because thats the Knicks. If its the worst thing that can possibly happen to an NBA team, its the Knicks

100% should trade Lee. I like KOQ and would keep him long term, but with KP's injury, if I can pick up a future asset (2nd rounder), I do it.

I'd also trade Jack, force Jeff to start someone else.

franco12 wrote:I'm thinking Ralph Sampson.

Ralph had chronic back and knee problems. ACL is not degenerative. Ralph had problems young and they did not allow him to play in the parimeter because he was tall.

Aside from what occurs with KP, we will now need to develop a core unit, a stronger core and foundation than what is in place. We will need to grow defensively and the Kantern
Issue is staring management in the faces. Neither Wiky, or Kanter can play D.
Perhaps our pick becomes a 5 (Bamba)and Kanter fetches a first. Fortunately between Thomas, Lee, KOQ and
Jack we have some trading value. Now Wily stays I assume.

This is crippling to next season, he won’t be back till this time next year at best. Hopefully speedy recovery.