Right now Id say

KP THJ with two projects Dotson and Frank--thats the Knicks. Should I throw in Troy Burke-but role players these 3.

we are so far away from ANYTHING.

A lot of the good play this season came from Lee Oquinn Kanter Beasley who are probably not Knicks next year--Im not sure Kanter is the fit here-so its like who cares?

Ill give Mills credit on THJ--that was a speculative move at 17mm. Now we need to keep him healthy and make sure he takes good shots.

KP-is a keeper but he is proving NOT to be the "alpha" player we need him to be.
THjr- Like the player, hate the contract
Lee - I'm just a fan of his play. I think he has really stepped it up this year and would be a great 4th option/off the bench player with a more developed team. Plus insurance so when THjr gets hurt every 10th game.
McDermott - A good 3pt threat to have off the bench.
KOQ - plays the 4 and 5 very well off the bench, in short spurts.

...and of course Frank. We drafted him might as well hold on for a bit and see what we got.

Need to see more of Burke. I don't consider him to be a true "pass-first" PG and would to see if his game has evolved to a play maker.

Nalod wrote:At least we have a core to start something.
while I can poke fun at the start of a new thread for your negative synapse there is room for a pity party here.
BUt......At least we have a unicorn. Say what you want about him not being all there yet, he is 22 and an allstar. Not many of those growing on trees.
Luck? LA and philly took Okafor and Russell and left us GodZingis.
when I look at other teams below us in the standings. We are fortunate.

Now I like Lee, but he's not a starter. He's a top reserve though. The perfect role for him is the back up 2 or the first guard off the bench. I like Dotson better for that role. He's a better rebounder and a stronger defender potentially. I'm hoping the kid is ready next year for that role. Lee is 32... the math says he's outta here soon. Not just on the Knicks but in the nba period. No knock but we can't expect him to do anything for us at 34.

I don't care about any of our centers but KOQ... his energy and his whole thing is what we want to be as a team. He's going to defend the post, he's going to hurt people. He's going to shoot and pass. You can't punk him. Willy is a bitch. He played well the last 2 Games I can't front... but I don't care. He's a sucker. He needs to go. Noah is a disappointment. I still believe he can play. He's in the same boat as Lee. We can't expect much of him at his age. His contract will be important down the line. We might actually need him on the court too.

Beasley is 29. He finally woke up. We need him the next 3 years. I think he could help us. I feel we're very close. Beas could be a big part of the beginning of that and he really is right now.

I don't believe in Frank. I understand he's 19, but yo he needs some seasoning. He's a g league candidate. He doesn't know when to shoot. He has an understanding of running a team but he has no maturity when it comes to being in charge and picking spots. He will but I'm not sure he's going to be that good. Fans of him agree too cuz they always say "he's not going have big stats"... fam that means he sucks. It is what it is.

I am in love with Burke. I'm excited to see how his chapter continues.

We need a vet at small fwd. Like we need to sign or trade for an established player.

Kanter could go... I love him though. I see him as a great way to get a small fwd cuz of his contract. Sucks but it's about the Knicks.

I believe we are so close to getting a good playoff team ready to bang for a title. It's not going to be no long process. We're just the perfect storm away and I think we are close to that falling into place

BRIGGS wrote:truly--we almost have to remake this whole team--Not saying many nba teams dont--but great nba teams are usually set through a tight 8.

Right now Id say

KP THJ with two projects Dotson and Frank--thats the Knicks. Should I throw in Troy Burke-but role players these 3.

we are so far away from ANYTHING.

A lot of the good play this season came from Lee Oquinn Kanter Beasley who are probably not Knicks next year--Im not sure Kanter is the fit here-so its like who cares?

Ill give Mills credit on THJ--that was a speculative move at 17mm. Now we need to keep him healthy and make sure he takes good shots.

Your right years of trading away picks have left this roster with very little. Not only that but we are capped out

Thus it leaves us with two starters in KP and THJr and Beas and Burke and Dotson who may all be rotation.

Kanter is now THE issue. $18.6 mm is a lot to Carry when you’ve Noah and Tim on the payroll. This team must improve defensively to ever have an opportunity to go deeper in the playoffs and we require athleticism ... so trade Kanter and Draft a athletic defensive oriented 5. (Think Noah when he was DPy and what a difference that would be.). Package Kanter with ANYONE except KP and THJr, and secure a starter (Think KCP,Brogden, Middleton,or the PF from the Lakers, a bona fide two way starter that is young)and compliments KP and THJr). If Frank is part of this is unfortunate but we need to improve next year and to tighten our 8.
Don’t grab a SF just to grab one. The choices other than Middleton are lackluster.

smackeddog wrote:This is why I'm so keen on tanking this season- we desperately need another stud to add to our core- KP, Frank, Tim Jr, Dotson just aren't enough to build round. Our role players are fine and can be traded for other role players, but unless we have another stud or two it's a pointless endeavour

Yep I don't see another way it would be different if we didn't have these bad contracts

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:truly--we almost have to remake this whole team--Not saying many nba teams dont--but great nba teams are usually set through a tight 8.

Right now Id say

KP THJ with two projects Dotson and Frank--thats the Knicks. Should I throw in Troy Burke-but role players these 3.

we are so far away from ANYTHING.

A lot of the good play this season came from Lee Oquinn Kanter Beasley who are probably not Knicks next year--Im not sure Kanter is the fit here-so its like who cares?

Ill give Mills credit on THJ--that was a speculative move at 17mm. Now we need to keep him healthy and make sure he takes good shots.

I'm pretty much in line with the thought that KP, THJr, Frank and Dotson are the only long term guys with Dotson on the outsdie edge. I see THJr as a 6th man type on a deep playoff team unless his defense and court awareness get much better.

So mostly just KP and Frank as starters and Knicks still need 3 guys for starting lineup and a bench.