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Paris907
Posts: 21146 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2015 Member: #6099 USA |
1/24/2018 9:22 PM
We win 34-35 that’s it. We need a bona fide 5 if either KOQ and Kanter are gone or Wily and KOQ
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martin
Posts: 67633 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
1/24/2018 10:18 PM
Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. If Kanter opts out and Knicks don't bring back KOQ, McD, Jack, Beas they'd be right around $80M. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25241 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
1/24/2018 10:50 PM
Unless we luck into a superstar in the draft this franchise is doomed, The Noah contract has broken any chance at building a winner with Porzingis here. Soon he will be maxed out and that will be the end. Get ready for 40-45 win seasons for the next decade
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Knixkik
Posts: 34835 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
1/24/2018 11:01 PM
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. Right. So we would have enough cap space to bring in 1 significant piece, but not a max type player. I would rather bring back Beasley at a team friendly deal, and let Baker and Thomas expire (Thomas isn't guaranteed in his final year), and stretch Noah and have cap space for Kawhi, Klay, Middleton, etc. |
martin
Posts: 67633 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
1/24/2018 11:36 PM
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. Lee's contract is key. Trade him this year or next and you have plenty of space without needing to stretch Noah if Knicks manage cap smartly. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 67633 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
1/24/2018 11:37 PM
Jmpasq wrote:Unless we luck into a superstar in the draft this franchise is doomed, The Noah contract has broken any chance at building a winner with Porzingis here. Soon he will be maxed out and that will be the end. Get ready for 40-45 win seasons for the next decade lol why do you even bother watching Knicks? your pessimism consumes you to no end. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/25/2018 12:49 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:Not a SF but maybe a guy we can play if the thought is KP at 5 2 players on the same team who might be good draft picks between 7-12 Carter and Trent. Trent reminds me a bit of Booker---a guy who came on but was still overshadowed and Carter would be a top 5 pick if he was on another team. Both have the bodies and skills. Watch closer to the draft--I dont think people are on Trent high enough but hes a lottery pick. RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/25/2018 11:03 AM
If we can get another 1st rd pick out of this in the 16-22 area
Right now my draft would be # 10 C Wendell Carter 6-11 260 C Knicks starting C--has great experience playing two big and has the body athleticism and defense to pair with KP # 21 Chandler Hutchinson 6-8 200 F-G Knicks back up G-F depends if we have another pick or not where we are picking--would be willing to take him first. # 37 Jalen Brunson 6-2 200 PG Knicks back up PG Steady winner doesnt turn it over plays super hard # 44 Kates Diop 6-8 200 F D league good developmental F
RIP Crushalot😞
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nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
1/25/2018 12:08 PM LAST EDITED: 1/25/2018 12:09 PM
I'll be happy if we end up with no more than 30 wins.
KP made a big jump to the all star level. Timmy proved he was a good starting wing. Frank got key minutes. We need more talent and that is where the lottery can really help us. We are two players away one can be the draft pick |
fishmike
Posts: 53006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
1/25/2018 12:14 PM
martin wrote:Its a broekn phucking record. Trade KP for picks, Noah has doomed us, there is zero chance unless all our 2nd rounders become Draymond Green, etc etc EVERY THREAD. I mean if your outlook is grim I get it... Its been tough being a Knick fan. Pessimism has its place but there seems like a lot of straight up misery mixing in there as well.Jmpasq wrote:Unless we luck into a superstar in the draft this franchise is doomed, The Noah contract has broken any chance at building a winner with Porzingis here. Soon he will be maxed out and that will be the end. Get ready for 40-45 win seasons for the next decade Maybe we need to just take this guy out for beers and mom's special brownies? You have new management here. The main part of that is Perry who while under Dumars: Do I expect that here? One never can.. every year and team and set of circumstances is different. Does Scott Perry have the first hand experience of builting a champion without being gifted franchise players in the draft? He sure does. Think about those teams. They had no Lebron or Klay/Curry/Draymond to build around. That added parts, many spare parts and built something. Give the guy some time. This isnt a Dolan hire. That alone should buy some time. In a chat with an old poster from this board he said "Phil definitely left us with a variety pack of awesome **** and terrible ****." I think that sums it up perfectly. Point is there are things to work with and far worse holes have been dug out of. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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HofstraBBall
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1/25/2018 2:06 PM
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. This. Interesting to see what happens with Doug. Only $4.5 next year but bigger cap hit. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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HofstraBBall
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1/25/2018 2:19 PM
fishmike wrote:Way too early to tell. Let see what happens at the deadline. A trade could energize us, or it could deflate us. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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HofstraBBall
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1/25/2018 2:23 PM LAST EDITED: 1/25/2018 2:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If we can get another 1st rd pick out of this in the 16-22 area Funny Espn has us taking Collin Sexton My Euro, Fan favorite, Kanter/Gasol like pick: 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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BigDaddyG
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1/25/2018 2:32 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:If we can get another 1st rd pick out of this in the 16-22 area Yeah and NBAdraft.net has us taking Wendell Carter. ESPN also has Mikal Bridges and Miles Bridges being drafted in our general vicinity. Hutchinson has shot up just outside the lottery and will probably land inside it by the time the season ends. It doesn't look he's a sleeper anymore. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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martin
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1/25/2018 2:42 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Interesting to see what happens with Doug. Only $4.5 next year but bigger cap hit. Yeah, did some poking to see if the eye test matched stats on Doug and it played out for me.... he is not really shooting well as a Knick even though his eFG% is fairly high. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcderdo01.html Solid overall effective fg % of 56% but just a cursory look at his numbers by distance and how many shots he is taking from different ranges suggest that he is making his layups (all those cuts and passes fro KOQ), making a very solid 3pt range of 41% but outside of layups and 3pt range... he sucks.
about 25% of his total shot are not layups and 3pt'ers, and he sucks at them. Probably should go to the G league to regain his confidence and whatnot, but I can't tell if Doug is having an off year or if his shot is just not good at the NBA level. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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Knixkik
Posts: 34835 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
1/25/2018 4:08 PM
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. Yes that's right. I want to keep him as long as possible, but we can trade him any time. He is a tradeable contract and will only be 2 more years after this. Easily movable if and when we need to. |
martin
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1/25/2018 4:26 PM
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. man, Lee's passing sucks but he has played solidly. Hope he keeps it up. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27145 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
1/26/2018 9:32 AM LAST EDITED: 1/26/2018 9:42 AM
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Nalod wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:33-36 wins seems about right. We need 2 forwards, a combo guard, and a versatile mobile yet strong PF/C. This is an important question. Lee has played so well this year. If we wait until next year and he has a year like 2016, his value will drop considerably. If the FO is in a true rebuild phase, they need to trade him for picks before the trade deadline. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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