HofstraBBall wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Saw the first half which Frank played well. Then switch over for the 2nd half of the Pats-Jags game. I am guessing Frank sucked really bad in the 2nd half.On the Knicks roster they have Burke, Beasley, Mcdermott, Kanter. All of them were lotto picks drafted for their offensive capabilities who have developed into nothing more than role players in the NBA. Who are all on the team which is struggling right now.
So lets not make it like offensive talent is a sure fire hit. Read Paul George scouting report and he was viewed as a 3 & D G/F who couldn't create his own shot lacking offensive creativity. Watch Donovan Mitchell's Draft express scouting report and he was said to be weak at finishing in the paint, settled on to many low efficient jump shots, not really a PG. He wasn't viewed as an offensive dynamo. There are also plenty of rookies who struggled only to go on to have very good careers. Plenty of rookies who had very good rookie seasons then fell off the map(Brandon Jennings also an offensive lotto pick who played for the Knicks. No longer in the NBA).
Its way to early to come to any real conclusions or to start pushing agendas. Frank was drafted to be a 2 way PG with elite size. The goal is to get him to that level over his rookie contract.
excellent post. Ive noticed the people who think frank is the bust are the ones who despise phil so that explains a lot. Im happy with frank. His defense and passing is really getting me excited. Obviously his offense is coming along slower but thats ok. He is still a young kid and with more experience he wont be as hesitant and the buckets will come. He has already shown he can hit big shots
True. But I also notice that guys that excuse every bad game Frank has and keep insisting he was a solid 8 pick are the ones that also thought that Phil and the Triangle had long term potential here.
Can't speak for others. I like the Frank pick as I view him as a fit into the positionless basketball mold that the NBA is adapting to. If we were to run the triangle he would fit as he would fit many other systems because he isn't one dimensional. But I never viewed him as a triangle PG. I don't even believe in the term. I mean Steph Curry is a triangle PG and he plays nothing like Frank as is Donovan Mitchell etc. Basically any PG that can play on and off ball like shoot 3s and move around for easy back door layups while also able to make pocket passes off the PNR and post entry feeds etc. And do little things when the ball isn't in their hands is a triangle PG. Their role would just expand depending on their talent. But I have given my reasoning plenty of times in the past already.
Triangle as I have also stated before is nothing more than a cop out. Ball movement and player movement leading to high % shots. As a Knick fan I don't care if we run the triangle or not. Triangle is just a name. I don't care about none of that ish, its you who want to make it specifically about Phil and Tri. Having multiple versatile players who can play on and off ball & defend multiple positions. Add that with ball movement and player movement. Target players in those molds and hope to land someone really talented in that mold. I would have been happy with a Fultz with the pretense that he could shoot, Tatum, Josh Jackson, Issac, Frank, or Donovan Mitchell as they fit those principals. I would have been fine trading down and trying to land OG Anunoby and Kuzma as they fit those principals.
Sure I wish he had a lot more craft to his game, but he is still young and has time to improve on his craft. I am clearly hoping that he works out as a pick since it would benefit the Knicks if he does.
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