I like Kemba- liked him when he came out- wished we could have gotten him then.

THjr
Kemba
KP
Kanter
Lance Thomas

that is a nice starting line up.

We've seen great play from this team with an ancient Jack- imagine a real PG like Walker!

We make the play offs this year if we can do a swap like that.

HofstraBBall wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Ok I want to address short run....

How long do any of you expect to be good whenever or however we get it done? We're not going to be good for 10 years straight just by stacking draft picks. That's not a guarantee. Even then most runs only last 3-5 years.

Even the spurs had to revamp and also get very lucky in the draft to maintain their success.

We get Kemba and a another player... all of a sudden we start our 5 year block of being the top dogs in the yard. We can add and subtract as we go along but we would be right on top for 5 years before we have to stay retooling tge starting line up or coaching situation for he next 5 years...

Wtf... I'm down to make it happen if its real. It's not like were trading for guys in their 30s or guys with extensive injury histories. We're taking about guys in their primes.

Thats all good. But what do you think it will take to get Kemba? They want to dump salary so safe to say they wont be taking on anyone making making over 10M next year. Maybe an expiring like KO, Buckets, Kanter? But think they would want a cheap first or second year guy and a draft pick as well. So do you give up Frank, second and say Kanter for him?

Big issue I have is that they guys on the block have not made their current teams any better. Including Kemba.
You look at Batum, he was a high demand FA and yet he has not done much. Grant it he was hurt but why are they willing to give up on him? Maybe they know something we dont about both. Question for me is that if Walker is so good, then why dump him for just an expiring and first year guy?

Do like that he is only 27 and may be on the cusp of elevating his game. Again, dont think I would care either way if we can get a good deal. Think, like KI, they are going to want a lot.

Just because a good player isn't in a winning situation outs not a direct reflection on then. Charlotte has been plagued by injury. Their front office and ownership are singe ****ing regards. They keep getting duplicate players. Like why did the get Dwight Howard? That's just one example. Jordan isn't trying to win. They have to reset cuz they know they ****ed up. They need to get young guys in there to build around the **** they have

The Knicks? They have their foot right at the door of being a playoff team this year, then a top 1-5 team in the league next year. We get Kemba and then get anther starter we do that.

How do we get Kemba? We're not trading with Danny Ainge.... Charlotte might be inclined to help Kemba go to NYC if that's where he wants to go. What's it to Charlotte? they are trying to be terrible. I would trade Frank and not even blink. We could drop a high second rounder on them and some expirings. That's more than enough.

In the off season man listen... free agents are see gong to be looking at the Knicks... we still got our draft picks too... let's ****ing go. All in! The next 5 years we go for the chip. Golden state will be going down. There's no real team challenging Boston... clevland is gonna be out. It's time man

franco12 wrote:how about a three way - courtney lee, our first rounder & second rounder going out, kemba to the Knicks, lee to the third team and picks/ending deals or trade exception to Charlotte.

I like Kemba- liked him when he came out- wished we could have gotten him then.

THjr
Kemba
KP
Kanter
Lance Thomas

that is a nice starting line up.

We've seen great play from this team with an ancient Jack- imagine a real PG like Walker!

We make the play offs this year if we can do a swap like that.

This is disgusting. How are ya'll talking about giving up picks? We still haven't even drafted back to back yet. Kemba is a FA in two years and the Knicks can literally go after him in FA if they waive Noah and don't pay Enes.

But we do?? want to pay UP for Kemba who is NOT nearly as good as Thomas and only 1 year younger? K walker is 5-10 at best on top of it. And while Kemba will always be my guy--it isnt for what hes done in the NBA. Hes a good player but hes not I Thomas.

We want to give picks and young players when we can simply watch and be patient? H<<<<<???????????

You plug in a legit starting PG, and I believe KP/Kanter will work. Walker fits the bill IMO.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Getting Walker does not make us contenders. Its a starphuch move. And he is not even that big of a star.

This rebuild needs patience. Yes, the losing sucks right now, I am frustrated by it too. I am not givign up on a 19 year old with a ton of promise for Kemba Walker. No Way!

I would explore other ways to get him. I am not saying NO to Kemba just NO to including Frank in any deal unless its a top game changer type of PG.

Its a starphuch move if you are stupid enough to believe that it makes us instant contenders. It doesn't, but it moves us a hell of a lot closer. Walker doesnt have to be a superstar to be a good fit. He is more than enough of a threat offensively to make everyone else's job easier.

wargames wrote:

franco12 wrote:how about a three way - courtney lee, our first rounder & second rounder going out, kemba to the Knicks, lee to the third team and picks/ending deals or trade exception to Charlotte.

I like Kemba- liked him when he came out- wished we could have gotten him then.

THjr
Kemba
KP
Kanter
Lance Thomas

that is a nice starting line up.

We've seen great play from this team with an ancient Jack- imagine a real PG like Walker!

We make the play offs this year if we can do a swap like that.

This is disgusting. How are ya'll talking about giving up picks? We still haven't even drafted back to back yet. Kemba is a FA in two years and the Knicks can literally go after him in FA if they waive Noah and don't pay Enes.

It' the trading season - the starfukk brigade lives for this.

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Getting Walker does not make us contenders. Its a starphuch move. And he is not even that big of a star.

This rebuild needs patience. Yes, the losing sucks right now, I am frustrated by it too. I am not givign up on a 19 year old with a ton of promise for Kemba Walker. No Way!

I would explore other ways to get him. I am not saying NO to Kemba just NO to including Frank in any deal unless its a top game changer type of PG.

Its a starphuch move if you are stupid enough to believe that it makes us instant contenders. It doesn't, but it moves us a hell of a lot closer. Walker doesnt have to be a superstar to be a good fit. He is more than enough of a threat offensively to make everyone else's job easier.

Have you read some of the posts here? YEs, some believe that Kemba can take us there.

He helps for sure offensively. That upgrade would be enough to get NY into the playoffs. Work out a deal without Frank, Hardaway or KP and I am on board most likely.

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Getting Walker does not make us contenders. Its a starphuch move. And he is not even that big of a star.

This rebuild needs patience. Yes, the losing sucks right now, I am frustrated by it too. I am not givign up on a 19 year old with a ton of promise for Kemba Walker. No Way!

I would explore other ways to get him. I am not saying NO to Kemba just NO to including Frank in any deal unless its a top game changer type of PG.

Its a starphuch move if you are stupid enough to believe that it makes us instant contenders. It doesn't, but it moves us a hell of a lot closer. Walker doesnt have to be a superstar to be a good fit. He is more than enough of a threat offensively to make everyone else's job easier.

Have you read some of the posts here? YEs, some believe that Kemba can take us there.

He helps for sure offensively. That upgrade would be enough to get NY into the playoffs. Work out a deal without Frank, Hardaway or KP and I am on board most likely.

I believe Frank has all the skills he needs to be an All-Star. The longer he is unwilling to assert himself on offense, the more I would like to see the Knicks explore all their options. Some players just arent wired to do more than defer.

Its not just Walker's ability to get buckets. Its the space he creates for KP,Kanter. Kanter doesn't have to put up monster numbers every night, if the PG is scoring around 20 a night. KP gets more open looks for 3, and alley oops. I get the reluctance to trade such a promising player. If the offense was on par with the D. If the alternative wasnt in their prime. Someone who can score and dish,I would get the skepticism.

Any trade for Walker is going to have to include Kanter because Charlotte wants to dump salary and he's the only big contract we have that will save them money.