Ainge has another top 5 pick. It’s a mistake to toss Wily rather than develop him. His 36 minute numbers were very solid at 13.6 boards per game. Does he need defensive skills? Who better to learn from than Noah. We’re certainky paying him enough to tutor.

I see Boston and Phili as powerhouse Franchises yet IF Frank develops and if KP continues to improve, if we pick well, and don’t resign retreads at huge -#s, we’ll be fine.

Paris907 wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2018/1/4/16849060/celtics-lakers-picks-nba-draft-2018

Ainge has another top 5 pick. It’s a mistake to toss Wily rather than develop him. His 36 minute numbers were very solid at 13.6 boards per game. Does he need defensive skills? Who better to learn from than Noah. We’re certainky paying him enough to tutor.

I see Boston and Phili as powerhouse Franchises yet IF Frank develops and if KP continues to improve, if we pick well, and don’t resign retreads at huge -#s, we’ll be fine.

Defensive rebounds are overrated bullshet

Finestrg wrote:I talked about this weeks ago and got very little reply. Still feel the same way -- Willy should be playing ahead of O'Quinn in the rotation. I'm just not nearly as high on O'Quinn as Jeff and the team seem to be. Willy has much better upside to me. They broke Willy down -- he has to be built back up from scratch..but it can be done. Should be done.

Suppose we flipped O'Quinn (along with another minor asset or 2) to Orlando for Khem Birch and the rights to Janis Timma. Birch, at 2 years younger than KOQ, slides right into that role (and I think this guy's a better player and would have more of an impact all around) + we get the rights to Timma, who I think is a better/more versatile version of Kuzminskas (a little smaller but much more mobile -- Kuz was a 3; this dude's a swingman 2/3). Timma, if you've seen clips of him, looks good enough for the NBA right now, plus he already has a connection with KP, having both played together in Latvia. I'd bring him over from Europe immediately. AND it would open up time for Willy (where Birch is inserted here and there as need).

Kanter
KP
Willy
Khem Birch
Janis Timma as an extra wing to incorporate. Talented player.

No idea if ORL would go for this or what they would want but it's hardly major assets being exchanged here. I think something like this is doable. I think it would help us, now and future. Do this and call up Trey Burke (which apparently some in the organization want to see). See where it goes. Minor moves that couldn't hurt -- could only help.

I appreciate the creativity but how would that Frontline match up against faster front lines. Think Phili or Boston. Think Boogie, Embiid, Davis Towns among others not to mention Bamba AYTON and Begley will be real. We require athleticism and fast feet as Kanter can’t atay with Most mobile bigs already

Gudris wrote:

Paris907 wrote:https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2018/1/4/16849060/celtics-lakers-picks-nba-draft-2018

Ainge has another top 5 pick. It’s a mistake to toss Wily rather than develop him. His 36 minute numbers were very solid at 13.6 boards per game. Does he need defensive skills? Who better to learn from than Noah. We’re certainky paying him enough to tutor.

I see Boston and Phili as powerhouse Franchises yet IF Frank develops and if KP continues to improve, if we pick well, and don’t resign retreads at huge -#s, we’ll be fine.

Defensive rebounds are overrated bullshet

Tell that to Knick Managment when KP is your top rebounder at 6.5 per game.

nykshaknbake wrote:Willy had every opportunity to show he could contribute. He plain stinks right now. What direction were we going that could get train wrecked?

Willy has had NO opportunity to show that he can contribute.

reub wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Willy had every opportunity to show he could contribute. He plain stinks right now. What direction were we going that could get train wrecked?

Willy has had NO opportunity to show that he can contribute.

“That was all before the trade for Enes Kanter. And they’ve always said, ‘Play the guys who earned it,’” Hornacek said.

nyknickzingis wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

reub wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Willy had every opportunity to show he could contribute. He plain stinks right now. What direction were we going that could get train wrecked?

Willy has had NO opportunity to show that he can contribute.

Not what the coach said.

“That was all before the trade for Enes Kanter. And they’ve always said, ‘Play the guys who earned it,’” Hornacek said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-center-dilemma-article-1.3579319

I don't buy what Jeff says in the media
Last year he was all for Triangle because his boss was
This year he isn't because his new bosses aren't

Basically what I've seen if what you quoted is true there is no way in hell Noah is not a regular 15 to 20 Minutes guy on our team. He is exactly what we tried to emphasize at camp. Roll to the basket hard set good screens play défense board etc

Willy I get doesn't do all those things as well as Quinn but Noah? A healthy Noah which we have seen so far this year is one of the best backups in the league and Jeff has barely played him.

Strictly from a defensive standpoint imagine coming in with Noah for Kanter at 5 then Frank for Jack at 1. It has made zero sense to me that if it was based on how they played in terms of their energy screen and rolling etc how Noah barely sees any action.

From a long term perspective though, could you really mark Noah for minutes? He probably was only rounding into playing shape during training camp and preseason and JH knew he wouldn't be able to play for the first month. You need to plan and play around Kanter, KOQ and Willy to begin and obviously Kanter/KOQ won those jobs.

Through mid December the Knicks were 16-13. As a coach, why would you change anything about that? That is exceeding expectations by a lot. Home court advantage but still playing at a very high level.

Why would you randomly throw Noah into that mix until Kanter/KOQ really falter?

Also, Noah aint going nowhere, you want to pump up Kanter/KOQ value IF you think you could move them for better pieces.

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

reub wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Willy had every opportunity to show he could contribute. He plain stinks right now. What direction were we going that could get train wrecked?

Willy has had NO opportunity to show that he can contribute.

Not what the coach said.

“That was all before the trade for Enes Kanter. And they’ve always said, ‘Play the guys who earned it,’” Hornacek said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-center-dilemma-article-1.3579319

I don't buy what Jeff says in the media
Last year he was all for Triangle because his boss was
This year he isn't because his new bosses aren't

Basically what I've seen if what you quoted is true there is no way in hell Noah is not a regular 15 to 20 Minutes guy on our team. He is exactly what we tried to emphasize at camp. Roll to the basket hard set good screens play défense board etc

Willy I get doesn't do all those things as well as Quinn but Noah? A healthy Noah which we have seen so far this year is one of the best backups in the league and Jeff has barely played him.

Strictly from a defensive standpoint imagine coming in with Noah for Kanter at 5 then Frank for Jack at 1. It has made zero sense to me that if it was based on how they played in terms of their energy screen and rolling etc how Noah barely sees any action.

From a long term perspective though, could you really mark Noah for minutes? He probably was only rounding into playing shape during training camp and preseason and JH knew he wouldn't be able to play for the first month. You need to plan and play around Kanter, KOQ and Willy to begin and obviously Kanter/KOQ won those jobs.

Through mid December the Knicks were 16-13. As a coach, why would you change anything about that? That is exceeding expectations by a lot. Home court advantage but still playing at a very high level.

Why would you randomly throw Noah into that mix until Kanter/KOQ really falter?

Also, Noah aint going nowhere, you want to pump up Kanter/KOQ value IF you think you could move them for better pieces.

Too logical. Your not ranting and how can you make a good rant without the benefit of hindsight?

BRIGGS wrote:What skill does Willy not have here? We spent 2 2s on him and hes a 1st team rookie team.

why do you keep saying this? since when does that matter? landry fields was 1st team all rookie too... clearly that doesn't mean jack ****.