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wargames
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1/6/2018 1:58 AM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2018 1:58 AM
I think a trade is likely. Timmy is injured, KP is exhausted, and the team has youth it needs to develop
With that said the knicks need for a SF (because Frank would be given even more time at PG with Jack spelling him) leads me to two potential trade partners http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb9b9vlb The reasons Miami does it is 2 fold. 1 its gets them from under Tyler Johnson's ballon payments. and two they play better without Winslow because he messed up their spacing. The reasons the knicks do it is two fold, 1 Tyler Johnson's money is significant, but when he comes off the knicks would have legit Max money to try and lure a superstar FA (Butler, Draymond, Kwahi, potentially Middleton) to play with KP even after they kept their core through bird rights. Also if Winslow shot was made even a bit better regularly he is an above average SF. or http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8lok3ed The spurs do it cause Lee is an upgrade over Green right now and they are always trying to win it. Kyle Anderson is an up and coming player (from NYC). Knicks do it because Green's contract is a year shorter and Kyle anderson is an expiring who they would have bird rights too. Both Danny and Kyle or local kids and it would be great to put both Oquinn, and Courtney on a winning team. The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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NardDogNation
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1/6/2018 9:19 AM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2018 9:22 AM
Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8motyzy And best of all, we create some financial flexibility in the immediate future. |
wargames
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1/6/2018 11:11 AM
NardDogNation wrote:Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially: I like that deal a lot, but when is the last time the knicks made a "long term move" like that? The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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NardDogNation
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1/6/2018 6:26 PM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2018 6:43 PM
wargames wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially: I'm not sure the Knicks ever made a "long term move" during the Dolan regime. The hope is that Scott Perry is cut differently than every other GM we've had under Dolan and will change the culture. I'm skeptical of that but will hope he is sober-minded in building this team. Sometimes it's necessary to take a step back to take two forward. I think the type of deal I proposed is an example of that if it satisfies all parties. However, I think Dell Demps is a lame-duck and might not have the juice to make another franchise-changing deal. To be frank, I'm shocked he wasn't let go eons ago. His tenure there is a cautionary tale for the Knicks when it comes to building too quickly with overpriced/overrated role players e.g. Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Omer Asik, etc. That aside, what team could/would pursue Channing Frye for a draft pick? I wouldn't want to keep him around and rather than cutting someone only to let Frye walk at the end of the season. I'd prefer to dump him for a second round pick or figure out a way to use him to offload more salary. |
BigDaddyG
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1/6/2018 6:33 PM
NardDogNation wrote:wargames wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially: Well, thankfully, we probably won't be able to offload enough salary for IT unless Kanter opts out, which is unlikely. The THJ saved us from that scenario. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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NardDogNation
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1/6/2018 6:41 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:NardDogNation wrote:wargames wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially: Yeah, I edited my initial post to reflect that concern. We're a dumb enough team to throw major money at a 29 year old 5"7' PG with an injury history, which would obviously be a major mistake. And as I said in the edited post, we should beware the job a guy like Dell Demps did in New Orleans which seems to be taking shape here in New York. Kristaps is not enough to start building an expensive team around like they did with Davis. The Pelicans ended up squandering the prime years of a generational talent instead of taking their time building through the draft. To think, they could've had Giannis Antetokounmpo if they simply kept their picks. Imagine how devastating a Davis-Giannis combo could've been instead of the flaming pile of dog**** they've had the past several seasons! |
NardDogNation
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1/6/2018 7:16 PM LAST EDITED: 1/6/2018 7:18 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Should the Pelicans feel compelled to move DeMarcus, we might have a shot at a three team trade with the Cavs. The objective would be for us to get the Nets pick and possibly a pick swap with our own pick and the Pelicans'; the Pelicans to get Enes Kanter and Courtney Lee; with Cavs getting DeMarcus. Here's the breakdown of the deal to get it to work financially: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yagyfl35 Same concept as before but expanded to include the Pacers, so that we avoid having to cut someone and save an additional $3 million in the process. That deal would place us further below the cap and potentially give us more flexibility to make moves that get us additional draft picks. |