BRIGGS wrote:Nah. You win in the nba w stars. I thomas proven star who brought boston to ECf

Even watching him last night-- first thing that comes to mind-- nba star. Knicks fans would adore him. We already have the size. Also anyone saying he's small hasn't watched him play much. Maybe the toughest mf in the whole league. Star star star. If healthy good money spent

Kp will be much improved as secondary option-- he's not a # 1. With hard away kp and thomas w role players-- that's more of a team that can compete

You have to identify your stars properly. IT is a good player not a star there are a lot of holes inhis game number one being height the other being defense.

BRIGGS wrote:Nah. You win in the nba w stars. I thomas proven star who brought boston to ECf

Even watching him last night-- first thing that comes to mind-- nba star. Knicks fans would adore him. We already have the size. Also anyone saying he's small hasn't watched him play much. Maybe the toughest mf in the whole league. Star star star. If healthy good money spent

Kp will be much improved as secondary option-- he's not a # 1. With hard away kp and thomas w role players-- that's more of a team that can compete

C'mon man, don't just plug and play. Where does the money come from? Who goes? Who stays?
Chemistry? IT last year was surrounded by tough defenders. Now he has Crowder and Lebron around him.
How does he do with the knicks in that area?

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Nah. You win in the nba w stars. I thomas proven star who brought boston to ECf

Even watching him last night-- first thing that comes to mind-- nba star. Knicks fans would adore him. We already have the size. Also anyone saying he's small hasn't watched him play much. Maybe the toughest mf in the whole league. Star star star. If healthy good money spent

Kp will be much improved as secondary option-- he's not a # 1. With hard away kp and thomas w role players-- that's more of a team that can compete

How are we gonna be able to afford signing him is what i'm wondering? We won't have the kind of money he wants until the 2020 offseason when J.Noah and C.Lee come off the books. So i'd love to hear the plan for getting the money to sign him this next offseason??

We can get the money--were not far away.

BRIGGS wrote:Hes a star player--we dont have that. We have parts. NBA star with basketball in hands makes everyone including tam better. Draft this guy sign this guy--if yu dont get a top 5 pick you are not getting a star. Signing these secondary players for 17mm per--same gist.

I Thomas=star pg who has a great deal of guts. We have other parts--we need the engine.

This would be the ultimate type (former Knick president) I Thomas move -- no thank you...no thank you.

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HofstraBBall wrote:Okay I'll bite. Great suggestion. Who would Cavs want? And why would they trade him? Please dont say KP.

Free agency

OK (and I don't know if I would give this dude $17mm per with the reasons everyone's saying but I agree it's a decision for summertime in FA when we reassess), but what about the here and now? We're a .500 team right now (maybe for not too much longer with the tough schedule coming up--I get that) minus arguably our 2nd best player in THJ which you figure we'll get back soon. 3 options right now: (1) concede the year and do nothing (really? Yet another year of this BS??), (2) go all in on some big trade for a guy like Tyreke Evans (nah...does he really move the needle? And he's playing great this year, you know he won't come cheap) or (3) see if we can uncover a Jeremy Lin-type on the cheap somewhere and see where that goes (along with reinforcing at another position or two--backup 4/5 and another wing?). I'd like to see us goes with door #3 for now. I don't think I wanna piss away the year. Not yet.. Let's see if a few minor enhancements on the cheap could help us. I think they could.

Finestrg wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Okay I'll bite. Great suggestion. Who would Cavs want? And why would they trade him? Please dont say KP.

Free agency

OK (and I don't know if I would give this dude $17mm per with the reasons everyone's saying but I agree it's a decision for summertime in FA when we reassess), but what about the here and now? We're a .500 team right now (maybe for not too much longer with the tough schedule coming up--I get that) minus arguably our 2nd best player in THJ which you figure we'll get back soon. 3 options right now: (1) concede the year and do nothing (really? Yet another year of this BS??), (2) go all in on some big trade for a guy like Tyreke Evans (nah...does he really move the needle? And he's playing great this year, you know he won't come cheap) or (3) see if we can uncover a Jeremy Lin-type on the cheap somewhere and see where that goes (along with reinforcing at another position or two--backup 4/5 and another wing?). I'd like to see us goes with door #3 for now. I don't think I wanna piss away the year. Not yet.. Let's see if a few minor enhancements on the cheap could help us. I think they could.

Fine if it was up to me Id tank. We need more talent--this is nOT a bad team. You ad a healthy Isiah Thomas and a top 8 pick--get Hardaway back. Have more defined roles for kP--well be much much better.

Isiah is one of the players in the league that accounts for W's by his play--not many guys like that. He can change this team. We have the complimentary players with Frank Lee Tim--maybe a draft pick. We can be much better quick. Look at last night fine--and many games--we have no offenseive guy who ignities this--we dont have that player like a Harden a Paul a Curry--Isiah is one of those dudes.

BRIGGS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Okay I'll bite. Great suggestion. Who would Cavs want? And why would they trade him? Please dont say KP.

Free agency

OK (and I don't know if I would give this dude $17mm per with the reasons everyone's saying but I agree it's a decision for summertime in FA when we reassess), but what about the here and now? We're a .500 team right now (maybe for not too much longer with the tough schedule coming up--I get that) minus arguably our 2nd best player in THJ which you figure we'll get back soon. 3 options right now: (1) concede the year and do nothing (really? Yet another year of this BS??), (2) go all in on some big trade for a guy like Tyreke Evans (nah...does he really move the needle? And he's playing great this year, you know he won't come cheap) or (3) see if we can uncover a Jeremy Lin-type on the cheap somewhere and see where that goes (along with reinforcing at another position or two--backup 4/5 and another wing?). I'd like to see us goes with door #3 for now. I don't think I wanna piss away the year. Not yet.. Let's see if a few minor enhancements on the cheap could help us. I think they could.

Fine if it was up to me Id tank. We need more talent--this is nOT a bad team. You ad a healthy Isiah Thomas and a top 8 pick--get Hardaway back. Have more defined roles for kP--well be much much better.

Isiah is one of the players in the league that accounts for W's by his play--not many guys like that. He can change this team. We have the complimentary players with Frank Lee Tim--maybe a draft pick. We can be much better quick. Look at last night fine--and many games--we have no offenseive guy who ignities this--we dont have that player like a Harden a Paul a Curry--Isiah is one of those dudes.

I here ya -- we might have to resort to this again (and what though--prob. fall one draft slot short of a difference maker because we have to win the last game or last 2 out of 3 and get Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry all over again? I mean we suck balls at doing this -- if we're gonna tank then BY GOD, TANK and do it right!!! lol). But I'm not there yet -- maybe we have a certain length of time in mind--after this horrible stretch of road games, the all-star break, after Timmy's back for 5-10 games or so??, I dunno, but yeah, might have to go this route again unfortunately. And I feel you on IT -- good player than prob. does move the needle -- and another thing to keep in mind here: the FA PG situation the next couple of summers doesn't look great at all after I. Thomas:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/point-guard/ -- Paul and Parker are Bird players who aren't going anywhere + they're older anyway. At least IT's still in his 20s.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/point-guard/ -- I like Cory Joseph, Dinwiddie and Joe Young, all UFAs I'd be interested in but they may not be the difference makers we're talking about. All good complementary players.

BUT...I still feel trying to find lightning in a bottle a-la Jeremy Lin in the meantime wouldn't be a bad thing. Worst case with this -- we uncover a decent PG that offers something different next to Frank, along with maybe a young enhancement or two at a couple of other positions. Couldn't hurt. Might really help actually. All I'm saying..

Finestrg wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Okay I'll bite. Great suggestion. Who would Cavs want? And why would they trade him? Please dont say KP.

Free agency

OK (and I don't know if I would give this dude $17mm per with the reasons everyone's saying but I agree it's a decision for summertime in FA when we reassess), but what about the here and now? We're a .500 team right now (maybe for not too much longer with the tough schedule coming up--I get that) minus arguably our 2nd best player in THJ which you figure we'll get back soon. 3 options right now: (1) concede the year and do nothing (really? Yet another year of this BS??), (2) go all in on some big trade for a guy like Tyreke Evans (nah...does he really move the needle? And he's playing great this year, you know he won't come cheap) or (3) see if we can uncover a Jeremy Lin-type on the cheap somewhere and see where that goes (along with reinforcing at another position or two--backup 4/5 and another wing?). I'd like to see us goes with door #3 for now. I don't think I wanna piss away the year. Not yet.. Let's see if a few minor enhancements on the cheap could help us. I think they could.

Fine if it was up to me Id tank. We need more talent--this is nOT a bad team. You ad a healthy Isiah Thomas and a top 8 pick--get Hardaway back. Have more defined roles for kP--well be much much better.

Isiah is one of the players in the league that accounts for W's by his play--not many guys like that. He can change this team. We have the complimentary players with Frank Lee Tim--maybe a draft pick. We can be much better quick. Look at last night fine--and many games--we have no offenseive guy who ignities this--we dont have that player like a Harden a Paul a Curry--Isiah is one of those dudes.

I here ya -- we might have to resort to this again (and what though--prob. fall one draft slot short of a difference maker because we have to win the last game or last 2 out of 3 and get Jordan Hill instead of Steph Curry all over again? I mean we suck balls at doing this -- if we're gonna tank then BY GOD, TANK and do it right!!! lol). But I'm not there yet -- maybe we have a certain length of time in mind--after this horrible stretch of road games, the all-star break, after Timmy's back for 5-10 games or so??, I dunno, but yeah, might have to go this route again unfortunately. And I feel you on IT -- good player than prob. does move the needle -- and another thing to keep in mind here: the FA PG situation the next couple of summers doesn't look great at all after I. Thomas:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/point-guard/ -- Paul and Parker are Bird players who aren't going anywhere + they're older anyway. At least IT's still in his 20s.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/point-guard/ -- I like Cory Joseph, Dinwiddie and Joe Young, all UFAs I'd be interested in but they may not be the difference makers we're talking about. All good complementary players.

BUT...I still feel trying to find lightning in a bottle a-la Jeremy Lin in the meantime wouldn't be a bad thing. Worst case with this -- we uncover a decent PG that offers something different next to Frank, along with maybe a young enhancement or two at a couple of other positions. Couldn't hurt. Might really help actually. All I'm saying..

All good players--I just think we need an engine. I love Isiiah. Trying to define IT is hard---evaluating him as a 5-8 guard who is a suspect defender is just flat wrong. The NBA is different--and hes an animal in this game.