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Paris907
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1/2/2018 8:32 AM
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Nalod
Posts: 68482 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
1/2/2018 10:20 AM
EnySpree wrote:Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Willy doesn't show toughness. You can't develop that either you got it or you don't. KP is not succeeding at the level he is by simply being 7'3 and athletic. He's tough as nails as a competitor. Willy doesn't have that. If had the moxy that KOQ, noah and Kanter show he would be a hands down all star. Outs not asking him developi g and playing minutes. Guy had the same opportunity KP has had. Willy has more Fiba experience. Willy has been a pro a long time. At 23, he's a man... no excuse for the kid to fall like this. Noah had no problem being Willy friend off the court. When Noah finally got his shot he took it. Willy has had multiple shots this year and flunked. You seem to know a lot about what's inside of him. |
StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
1/2/2018 11:00 AM
Nalod wrote:good post. Plus it seems like knick mangement is still pretty high on him. They arent just gonna give him away. Also i never see him complaining. The dude wants to play for sure but he understands the situation. I always see him cheering and being supportive of his teammatesEnySpree wrote:Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Willy doesn't show toughness. You can't develop that either you got it or you don't. KP is not succeeding at the level he is by simply being 7'3 and athletic. He's tough as nails as a competitor. Willy doesn't have that. If had the moxy that KOQ, noah and Kanter show he would be a hands down all star. Outs not asking him developi g and playing minutes. Guy had the same opportunity KP has had. Willy has more Fiba experience. Willy has been a pro a long time. At 23, he's a man... no excuse for the kid to fall like this. Noah had no problem being Willy friend off the court. When Noah finally got his shot he took it. Willy has had multiple shots this year and flunked. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/2/2018 11:16 AM
I dont really have a mock draft--but if we have picks 15-33 and 40--which is what it appears as of now
I know what players were not getting--so its waste of time to list What Im looking for is a combination of best player available and fit--not necessarily position. I like Nick Ward PF from Mich State a whole lot. Hes a beast inside-he might be as good as the top 3 prospects RIP Crushalot😞
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
1/2/2018 11:24 AM
Briefly watched Trae Young. Impressive how much ground he covers in one dribble. Young puts the ball way ahead of him, and has the speed to catch up, keep his dribble, change directions, when most players would end up traveling, or coughing up the ball.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/2/2018 11:46 AM LAST EDITED: 1/2/2018 11:53 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Briefly watched Trae Young. Impressive how much ground he covers in one dribble. Young puts the ball way ahead of him, and has the speed to catch up, keep his dribble, change directions, when most players would end up traveling, or coughing up the ball. Trae young might be the most exciting player in any sport right now. Must see TV If Trae shot his 3's from the actual 3 point line--hed probably shoot 55%. Best court vision right now in all of basketball NBA or college. great body control has the reverse gears fast to slow to juke defenders. Shot slection and mistakes--yeah sometimes but thats all part of the gig! Oklahoma actually has really nice complimentary players for young. They dont have many post guys but guys who move and can hit a 3. RIP Crushalot😞
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29852 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
1/2/2018 11:59 AM
BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Briefly watched Trae Young. Impressive how much ground he covers in one dribble. Young puts the ball way ahead of him, and has the speed to catch up, keep his dribble, change directions, when most players would end up traveling, or coughing up the ball. The main questions regarding him though is if he will be able to do what he does vs NBA length and athleticism? As well as would he be a liability defensively? It's impressive he is able to do these things as a freshman though. Steph developed over 4 years of college ball to hone his craft. At 19 possible Young still grows some more or fills out some more. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/2/2018 12:09 PM
Jalen Brunson right now
Hes avg 19 points 5 assists 4 rebounds only 1 TO and shooting 60% from the field and 50% from 3. RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/2/2018 12:12 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Briefly watched Trae Young. Impressive how much ground he covers in one dribble. Young puts the ball way ahead of him, and has the speed to catch up, keep his dribble, change directions, when most players would end up traveling, or coughing up the ball. Hes 6-2 so not short. Its going to be hard to guard Trae Young at the pro level--maybe harder in the NBA because he has range from 38 feet. He takes your athletic ability away from you because of spacing. Hes going to have to go to the right team and hes going to have to show some OFF the BALL success. I can see what he can do WITH the ball--can he don what Stephy Curry does without it? Has to get stronger RIP Crushalot😞
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29852 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
1/2/2018 12:26 PM
BRIGGS wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Briefly watched Trae Young. Impressive how much ground he covers in one dribble. Young puts the ball way ahead of him, and has the speed to catch up, keep his dribble, change directions, when most players would end up traveling, or coughing up the ball. These are proclamations that we don't know yet. Your projecting him to be unguardable in the NBA yet he hasn't played against the comp nessesary to verify that. Luca Donic balled out in the world tourny vs real NBA talent. Got the better of KP when their teams battled each other. He has a stronger portfolio. Young is a very crafty guard. But not ready to make the claims that you have made, yet anyway. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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newyorknewyork
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1/2/2018 12:27 PM
And my point about Luca is that he has a stronger claim. But even he isn't a sure thing.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
1/2/2018 1:42 PM
Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Willy doesn't show toughness. You can't develop that either you got it or you don't. KP is not succeeding at the level he is by simply being 7'3 and athletic. He's tough as nails as a competitor. Willy doesn't have that. If had the moxy that KOQ, noah and Kanter show he would be a hands down all star. Outs not asking him developi g and playing minutes. Guy had the same opportunity KP has had. Willy has more Fiba experience. Willy has been a pro a long time. At 23, he's a man... no excuse for the kid to fall like this. Noah had no problem being Willy friend off the court. When Noah finally got his shot he took it. Willy has had multiple shots this year and flunked. I'm just not into waiting on grown men to develop toughness. That's what we are waiting for. He's having g a great time because he likes his teammates.... we're playing basketball though. When he's on the court he's not bringing it like everyone else, especially his teammates. I don't need to be a psychiatrist for that.... Willy doesn't deserve to play. Now I understand potential and all that, but Willy isn't 19. I also understand the economics... Willy is on a rookie deal. We could surely move or let Kanter and KOQ walk and roll with Willy and Noah.... Do we want to continue to coddle guys that arent working hard? I thought we were building a culture? We can't baby Willy and then talk about building a winning culture. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
1/2/2018 1:45 PM LAST EDITED: 1/2/2018 1:47 PM
EnySpree wrote:Again who says Willy isnt working hard? Also they arent coddling him. The fact is we ended up with a loaded frontcourt and Kanter has been much better than even the knicks expected. Kyle got off to a great start even though he has started to come back to earth a bit. Truthfully there is no need to trade Willy unless we get a great offer or something since he is young and on a good deal.Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Willy doesn't show toughness. You can't develop that either you got it or you don't. KP is not succeeding at the level he is by simply being 7'3 and athletic. He's tough as nails as a competitor. Willy doesn't have that. If had the moxy that KOQ, noah and Kanter show he would be a hands down all star. Outs not asking him developi g and playing minutes. Guy had the same opportunity KP has had. Willy has more Fiba experience. Willy has been a pro a long time. At 23, he's a man... no excuse for the kid to fall like this. Noah had no problem being Willy friend off the court. When Noah finally got his shot he took it. Willy has had multiple shots this year and flunked. |
EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
1/2/2018 2:10 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:EnySpree wrote:Again who says Willy isnt working hard? Also they arent coddling him. The fact is we ended up with a loaded frontcourt and Kanter has been much better than even the knicks expected. Kyle got off to a great start even though he has started to come back to earth a bit. Truthfully there is no need to trade Willy unless we get a great offer or something since he is young and on a good deal.Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Nalod wrote:EnySpree wrote:Willy doesn't show toughness. You can't develop that either you got it or you don't. KP is not succeeding at the level he is by simply being 7'3 and athletic. He's tough as nails as a competitor. Willy doesn't have that. If had the moxy that KOQ, noah and Kanter show he would be a hands down all star. Outs not asking him developi g and playing minutes. Guy had the same opportunity KP has had. Willy has more Fiba experience. Willy has been a pro a long time. At 23, he's a man... no excuse for the kid to fall like this. Noah had no problem being Willy friend off the court. When Noah finally got his shot he took it. Willy has had multiple shots this year and flunked. His play is saying it. He's been terrible every time he has been out there. Very soft and nonchalant. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC?t=z5pqPMhdiAZNwzcCGMkiFw&s=09
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