Gudris wrote:This is good news, Frank needs to start soon

He can't start until he stops being a liability on offense. He's getting better at it though just not quite there

martin wrote:Good sign from Knicks, one of the best statistical defenders in the league in KP and one of the top 10 on the perimeter.

Defense at C and PG if KP fills out. Incredible. And both have scoring ability all the way out to 3PT line. Both 22 and younger.

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2018/01/01/draymond-has-been-the-nbas-best-defender/

Jmpasq wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Good sign from Knicks, one of the best statistical defenders in the league in KP and one of the top 10 on the perimeter.

Defense at C and PG if KP fills out. Incredible. And both have scoring ability all the way out to 3PT line. Both 22 and younger.

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2018/01/01/draymond-has-been-the-nbas-best-defender/

22 and 19 years old. Ive been saying... we can build a defense around these two. I would take a defensive star with some warts in this draft. Scorers are everywhere. We got Beas cheap. We have Trey Burke who can be a scorer off the bench. McBuckets. Jack is a good veteran offensive player. I think its easy to fill these roles if you have 3-4 elite defenders out there like Detroit had on those teams.

I believe you can carry two sub par defensive starters if the other 3 are competent, especially at center and PG. We've already won half the battle as far i'm concerned. While KP is not "5" right now, he's improving as a help defender and continues to provide quality shotblocking. Just need that one good two-way forward to fill in the gaps.

The 2 way All Star SF is the missing piece. We will pick somewhere between 11-16, can we find that guy there? Hopefully, this draft actually has a few nice forwards in that range

TOTALLY AGREE.

Most championship caliber teams are built on great to elite offenses with solid to good defenses. With Frank and KP already playing their elite level defense the Knicks have to flip the script. They have to continue building the defense so they have a great to elite defense as the calling card even if the offense is not elite. This will make them unique in today's NBA as teams for the most part no longer play defense and will be the key to their championship hopes.

This is why I want the Knicks target Mikal Bridges who at this point seems to be the best 2 way small forward in the country with defense the elite part of his 2 way play. This would give the Knicks a STIFLING level of defense - again defense being the key to their championship hopes. The good news is that in most mock drafts Bridges is projected to be in the 10 - 14 range which is probably where the Knicks will pick if they do make the lottery.

nixluva wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Good sign from Knicks, one of the best statistical defenders in the league in KP and one of the top 10 on the perimeter.

Defense at C and PG if KP fills out. Incredible. And both have scoring ability all the way out to 3PT line. Both 22 and younger.

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2018/01/01/draymond-has-been-the-nbas-best-defender/

22 and 19 years old. Ive been saying... we can build a defense around these two. I would take a defensive star with some warts in this draft. Scorers are everywhere. We got Beas cheap. We have Trey Burke who can be a scorer off the bench. McBuckets. Jack is a good veteran offensive player. I think its easy to fill these roles if you have 3-4 elite defenders out there like Detroit had on those teams.

I believe you can carry two sub par defensive starters if the other 3 are competent, especially at center and PG. We've already won half the battle as far i'm concerned. While KP is not "5" right now, he's improving as a help defender and continues to provide quality shotblocking. Just need that one good two-way forward to fill in the gaps.

The 2 way All Star SF is the missing piece. We will pick somewhere between 11-16, can we find that guy there? Hopefully, this draft actually has a few nice forwards in that range

TOTALLY AGREE.

Absolutely. Frank and KP are the foundation and with their 2-way ability they will anchor the defense. Hardaway provides the playmaking and shot creating ability that Frank lacks. Kanter provides extra offense and the toughness downlow. We should never have an issue on either side of the ball. Plenty of firepower here. Just need that missing SF who can bring it all together and build up the bench some more.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Good sign from Knicks, one of the best statistical defenders in the league in KP and one of the top 10 on the perimeter.

Defense at C and PG if KP fills out. Incredible. And both have scoring ability all the way out to 3PT line. Both 22 and younger.

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2018/01/01/draymond-has-been-the-nbas-best-defender/

22 and 19 years old. Ive been saying... we can build a defense around these two. I would take a defensive star with some warts in this draft. Scorers are everywhere. We got Beas cheap. We have Trey Burke who can be a scorer off the bench. McBuckets. Jack is a good veteran offensive player. I think its easy to fill these roles if you have 3-4 elite defenders out there like Detroit had on those teams.

I believe you can carry two sub par defensive starters if the other 3 are competent, especially at center and PG. We've already won half the battle as far i'm concerned. While KP is not "5" right now, he's improving as a help defender and continues to provide quality shotblocking. Just need that one good two-way forward to fill in the gaps.

The 2 way All Star SF is the missing piece. We will pick somewhere between 11-16, can we find that guy there? Hopefully, this draft actually has a few nice forwards in that range

TOTALLY AGREE.

Absolutely. Frank and KP are the foundation and with their 2-way ability they will anchor the defense. Hardaway provides the playmaking and shot creating ability that Frank lacks. Kanter provides extra offense and the toughness downlow. We should never have an issue on either side of the ball. Plenty of firepower here. Just need that missing SF who can bring it all together and build up the bench some more.

With stretch 4's on opposite team, Kanter lacks ANY kind of interior protection when KP needs to watch the 3 point line. Also, his lack of passing and shots outside the rim makes penetration much harder for his teammates.

The two young centers on our team are 25 and 22. Both are excellent rebounders, big bodies and below average defenders. Another high end defensive wing could solidify that defense even more. If Kanter doesnt have to help (much) and he's mostly setting picks, crashing boards and scoring int the paint he's gonna look REALLY good, which he has for stretches. The defense around him is key. Willy also.

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:Good sign from Knicks, one of the best statistical defenders in the league in KP and one of the top 10 on the perimeter.

Defense at C and PG if KP fills out. Incredible. And both have scoring ability all the way out to 3PT line. Both 22 and younger.

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2018/01/01/draymond-has-been-the-nbas-best-defender/

22 and 19 years old. Ive been saying... we can build a defense around these two. I would take a defensive star with some warts in this draft. Scorers are everywhere. We got Beas cheap. We have Trey Burke who can be a scorer off the bench. McBuckets. Jack is a good veteran offensive player. I think its easy to fill these roles if you have 3-4 elite defenders out there like Detroit had on those teams.

I believe you can carry two sub par defensive starters if the other 3 are competent, especially at center and PG. We've already won half the battle as far i'm concerned. While KP is not "5" right now, he's improving as a help defender and continues to provide quality shotblocking. Just need that one good two-way forward to fill in the gaps.

The 2 way All Star SF is the missing piece. We will pick somewhere between 11-16, can we find that guy there? Hopefully, this draft actually has a few nice forwards in that range

TOTALLY AGREE.

Absolutely. Frank and KP are the foundation and with their 2-way ability they will anchor the defense. Hardaway provides the playmaking and shot creating ability that Frank lacks. Kanter provides extra offense and the toughness downlow. We should never have an issue on either side of the ball. Plenty of firepower here. Just need that missing SF who can bring it all together and build up the bench some more.

With stretch 4's on opposite team, Kanter lacks ANY kind of interior protection when KP needs to watch the 3 point line. Also, his lack of passing and shots outside the rim makes penetration much harder for his teammates.

Agree but if your 3 perimeter players are Frank/Lee/THjr (which is what I think we finish the 2nd half of the year with) Kanter works because those guys are at the very least excellent and keeping their man in front of them.

The two young centers on our team are 25 and 22. Both are excellent rebounders, big bodies and below average defenders. Another high end defensive wing could solidify that defense even more. If Kanter doesnt have to help (much) and he's mostly setting picks, crashing boards and scoring int the paint he's gonna look REALLY good, which he has for stretches. The defense around him is key. Willy also.

For me Kanter is a good stepping stone big next to KP but not long term C the Knicks need to get deep into playoffs. Just don't see that path for him