CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

The performance against San Antonio continued what’s been an excellent month for the rookie. Through 14 December games, Ntilikina is averaging 11.2 points, 5.5 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 1.9 steals, and 1.3 three-point field goals made per 36 minutes.

So you're assuming he won't make any improvements from the first 30 or so games of his rookie season?

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

In your opinion what do you think is the reasoning behind that? I can't tell if it's due to him being scared of getting injured type of thing. Or if it's due to him not being confident in his finishing ability vs bigs. So he stays where he is more comfortable taking jumpers here and there?

The dream would be to see him down the road cuff the ball when driving and the use his 7ft wingspan to extend one past the defender. But he also has to be able to absorb contact without getting completely thrown off his shot. Pull ups and floaters using his ability to extend is the dream as well.

I just think it starts from a kid, THJ was going to the hole his first season In college, like that's how he was taught to play from day one. with a player like ROSE, who also avoids contact to the point the refs never give him the call, he just wants to avoid injury, because prior to the knicks he lived at the FT line.

French players have never been the aggressive or physical type, with the exception of parker and I think diaw

JesseDark wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

In your opinion what do you think is the reasoning behind that? I can't tell if it's due to him being scared of getting injured type of thing. Or if it's due to him not being confident in his finishing ability vs bigs. So he stays where he is more comfortable taking jumpers here and there?

The dream would be to see him down the road cuff the ball when driving and the use his 7ft wingspan to extend one past the defender. But he also has to be able to absorb contact without getting completely thrown off his shot. Pull ups and floaters using his ability to extend is the dream as well.

I just think it starts from a kid, THJ was going to the hole his first season In college, like that's how he was taught to play from day one. with a player like ROSE, who also avoids contact to the point the refs never give him the call, he just wants to avoid injury, because prior to the knicks he lived at the FT line.

French players have never been the aggressive or physical type, with the exception of parker and I think diaw

I agree with your assessment. I don't know if you can develop a killer instinct at 19 20 year old. He should spend his summer here in the states and play in as many summer leagues as possible.

Why do people love to stereotype about "French players" or any other groups of people? It's really not cool to do that sort of thing.

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

In your opinion what do you think is the reasoning behind that? I can't tell if it's due to him being scared of getting injured type of thing. Or if it's due to him not being confident in his finishing ability vs bigs. So he stays where he is more comfortable taking jumpers here and there?

The dream would be to see him down the road cuff the ball when driving and the use his 7ft wingspan to extend one past the defender. But he also has to be able to absorb contact without getting completely thrown off his shot. Pull ups and floaters using his ability to extend is the dream as well.

I just think it starts from a kid, THJ was going to the hole his first season In college, like that's how he was taught to play from day one. with a player like ROSE, who also avoids contact to the point the refs never give him the call, he just wants to avoid injury, because prior to the knicks he lived at the FT line.

French players have never been the aggressive or physical type, with the exception of parker and I think diaw

I only know of the successful french players. Parker, Batum, Gobert, Diaw. Can't really speak on that.

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

In your opinion what do you think is the reasoning behind that? I can't tell if it's due to him being scared of getting injured type of thing. Or if it's due to him not being confident in his finishing ability vs bigs. So he stays where he is more comfortable taking jumpers here and there?

The dream would be to see him down the road cuff the ball when driving and the use his 7ft wingspan to extend one past the defender. But he also has to be able to absorb contact without getting completely thrown off his shot. Pull ups and floaters using his ability to extend is the dream as well.

I just think it starts from a kid, THJ was going to the hole his first season In college, like that's how he was taught to play from day one. with a player like ROSE, who also avoids contact to the point the refs never give him the call, he just wants to avoid injury, because prior to the knicks he lived at the FT line.

French players have never been the aggressive or physical type, with the exception of parker and I think diaw

Man... seriously... I was about to post how absolutely ridiculous your entry post of the thread was... you know... thinking you'd be able to judge a 10yr old kids career based on 32 games he played... but then I read this post and its even mor ridiculous.

Put some perspective in your judgement at least - if you can!
The kid is 19yrs old... he has already played against grown man for a couple of yrs now which is a HUGE difference to ANYTHING the NCAA is or Highschool! He has NOT been in a role where he had to score much but was playing to his strenghts rather... to benefit his team which was playing MEANINGFUL games without "teaching moments" for a kid!
The only instances he did have to carry a team scoringwise was with the U-national team of France where he scored in BUNCHES against peers!

NOW... he is in the US... shows that his strong parts of the game DO translate to the NBA level ALREADY despite him being a young kid (second youngest rook as you know!)... he does help his team AGAIN with this BUT does not yet score or show the offensive awareness he will need... btw he does show skills on offense in the instances he is looking for it... you might have missed that!
He has, by ALL accounts been very coachable and there is NO reason to believe his 32 game performance of the rookie season will define his limits on offense! NONE!!!

And you call him out on not being a double digit scorer ever!!! You sir... are trolling on this... or just have NO idea of this sport!!!

In terms of future projections (and I am aware that for me as well the sample is a 32 game rook season!!!) rather seems to be a Rondo in his prime or Billups... you may know... both were rather successful with their style of play and their teams!

D out!

Uptown wrote:

Vmart wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

The last time the Knicks went to the finals they had a platoon system going where it was Ward And Childs. As long as the team is winning who cares how they are getting it done.

It was a different league then...the game was still played inside out during those times. Now, its a perimeter oriented game...

dodger78 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

That would be amazing. Right now I see him becoming a 10 and 5 guy that shares the position with an Ish Smith type point. I hope you are right.

10.1 points, 5.9 assists, 3.7 rebounds, 2.3 steals, and 1.1 three-point field goals made per 36 minute

Thats Frank NOW dude. So at 19 and 30 games into his NBA career and you see him becoming pretty much the same a what he is now with a few more minutes?

The Knicks have a guy on their roster who's per 36 is 10 pts 15 rebs, 5 assists and 3+ blocks. Not expecting to ever see that though. The numbers you posted are right around where I think Frank lands. I hope I am mistaken and that he finds an aggressiveness on offense that makes him more effective as a point guard. He is very young and by all accounts a high character kid that wants to learn.

I don't think he needs more aggressiveness to become more efficient. Rasing the efficiency in what he does currently can lead to more aggressiveness though.

He hardly takes bad shots. All his shot come in the flow of the offense. He also rarely gets the ball back on kick outs from his teammates once he passes though. He is isn't at the level where he feels it's his team and he has to make it happen for them which will come with time and experience. But back to the original thought. Based off the shots that he takes he could easily be a 50% shooter since they are mostly good looks. If he shoots only 10 times a game at 50%. With 2 of them being 3s. That would be an easy 12 pts a game without including FTs.

So there is the route that he can take where he becomes very efficient with the good shots he does take. Which would bring him and the team to another level by itself. Great defense and efficient shooting within the flow of a game reducing is what Kwahi's game is all about and less him to be an MVP calibre player. Remember when he played great defense on LeBron while averaging like 25-30pts in the finals because his buckets all came with easy off of efficient team play?

Your description of him on offense reminds of Jose Calderon.

Calderon with Frank's defense would be a hell of a player!

People forget how good Calderon was offensively in Toronto. We got the broken down version in NY.

his shot selection is suspect

for instance, he had mismatch with Aldridge, who gave him room to shoot a 16 foot jumper, but he also had room to go around him, and Aldridge would of gotten beat and almost definitely would have drew contact going the hole

95% of franks shots are from the perimeter, he is petrified of contact, that was the first thing I notice when looking at all his overseas highlights last summer.

In your opinion what do you think is the reasoning behind that? I can't tell if it's due to him being scared of getting injured type of thing. Or if it's due to him not being confident in his finishing ability vs bigs. So he stays where he is more comfortable taking jumpers here and there?

The dream would be to see him down the road cuff the ball when driving and the use his 7ft wingspan to extend one past the defender. But he also has to be able to absorb contact without getting completely thrown off his shot. Pull ups and floaters using his ability to extend is the dream as well.

I just think it starts from a kid, THJ was going to the hole his first season In college, like that's how he was taught to play from day one. with a player like ROSE, who also avoids contact to the point the refs never give him the call, he just wants to avoid injury, because prior to the knicks he lived at the FT line.

French players have never been the aggressive or physical type, with the exception of parker and I think diaw

Man... seriously... I was about to post how absolutely ridiculous your entry post of the thread was... you know... thinking you'd be able to judge a 10yr old kids career based on 32 games he played... but then I read this post and its even mor ridiculous.

Put some perspective in your judgement at least - if you can!
The kid is 19yrs old... he has already played against grown man for a couple of yrs now which is a HUGE difference to ANYTHING the NCAA is or Highschool! He has NOT been in a role where he had to score much but was playing to his strenghts rather... to benefit his team which was playing MEANINGFUL games without "teaching moments" for a kid!
The only instances he did have to carry a team scoringwise was with the U-national team of France where he scored in BUNCHES against peers!

NOW... he is in the US... shows that his strong parts of the game DO translate to the NBA level ALREADY despite him being a young kid (second youngest rook as you know!)... he does help his team AGAIN with this BUT does not yet score or show the offensive awareness he will need... btw he does show skills on offense in the instances he is looking for it... you might have missed that!
He has, by ALL accounts been very coachable and there is NO reason to believe his 32 game performance of the rookie season will define his limits on offense! NONE!!!

And you call him out on not being a double digit scorer ever!!! You sir... are trolling on this... or just have NO idea of this sport!!!

In terms of future projections (and I am aware that for me as well the sample is a 32 game rook season!!!) rather seems to be a Rondo in his prime or Billups... you may know... both were rather successful with their style of play and their teams!

D out!

HofstraBBall wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Vmart wrote:Frank is going to be great. He is a rookie who plays under control. It’s these type of players that win championships and lead. They put importance in team work as opposed to individual recognition. They are selfless always willing to help other get theirs and keep everyone moving and expecting the next pass.

You think he won’t be a double digit scorer in the NBA. I think he will I see Frank Averaging anywhere from 14-18 points and 8-10 assists while giving the Knicks stellar defense.

Curious, in a time when players like Steph, Irving, Wall, Lowry, Harden are pushing the pace and raining threes, who exactly are you referring to that plays like Frank and winning chips?

Think the argument is not so much about how Frank is doing as a rookie but was that type of player worth an 8 pick.

You remember Lowry when he was a rookie? How many threes does Wall rain down? Irving was a #1 pick? My point is that your chances of pulling a franchise guard at 8 are slim to begin with. Go look at draft histories and see how realistic that is. We got the best two-way PG prospect in the draft, so yes, I think that was worth a gamble at 8.

Your skating. All these players are known for their offense. Which team has won a chip recently because of their two way guard? And again, not knocking Frank, think he has shown signs of being able to be a good player, but you really don't think we could have picked up a two way vet in free agency or another two way player later in the draft? I do.

Which team has one a championship based on the play of a dominant PG the last few years? I can only think of one. Kyrie was a de-facto shooting guard. Tony Parker was never the number one option on his team. Did you mean Mario Chalmers?