Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:They need Kanter so badly--prfect fit--i dont want draft picks I want Brogdon.

where would the heart, soul, energy, toughness, rebounding going to come from after trading kanter, BROGdon?

Noah.

Nalod wrote:KP cant hold the 5 yet on defense.
As for Noah, who the hell knows. He brings the passion and rebounding. He brings about 40million in contract money too!! He brings 2 seasons of injury breaking down too!
As for Brogdan, I’ve asked a few times......what is the money coming back? Kanter makes a substantial amount more.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:KP cant hold the 5 yet on defense.
As for Noah, who the hell knows. He brings the passion and rebounding. He brings about 40million in contract money too!! He brings 2 seasons of injury breaking down too!
As for Brogdan, I’ve asked a few times......what is the money coming back? Kanter makes a substantial amount more.

I was surprised Noah didn't even get to dress for the Bulls game. That seems like something you would do out of respect. Is he done as a player? Is this coaching staff done with him?

Take the long picture. You play Kanter and KOQ - who may have started the season strong and ride them to the trade deadline and see what happens. What plus is there to play Noah IF those other 2 guys are also playing on the same level?

Throwing in Noah and Willy to the rotation... what benefit besides minutes for different dudes?

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:KP cant hold the 5 yet on defense.
As for Noah, who the hell knows. He brings the passion and rebounding. He brings about 40million in contract money too!! He brings 2 seasons of injury breaking down too!
As for Brogdan, I’ve asked a few times......what is the money coming back? Kanter makes a substantial amount more.

I was surprised Noah didn't even get to dress for the Bulls game. That seems like something you would do out of respect. Is he done as a player? Is this coaching staff done with him?

Take the long picture. You play Kanter and KOQ - who may have started the season strong and ride them to the trade deadline and see what happens. What plus is there to play Noah IF those other 2 guys are also playing on the same level?

Throwing in Noah and Willy to the rotation... what benefit besides minutes for different dudes?

I agree with you. I was referring to the fact that they had him in street clothes for a game against his former team. I didn't expect him to get minutes.

Not his first time back to Chicago.
That contract showed a lot of respect! Im rooting for him to return strong.
Him and willy seem to be having a lot of fun on the bench. Especially Willy!

nyknickzingis wrote:Kanter should be a 18 to 22 minutes a game player.
He clogs up the paint and if KP is your main other weapon you don't have the spacing especially when KP wants to post.

Dirk won a championship with a non post up guy. An off the ball active cutter and roller like Tyson.

If we want size next to KP, in today's league it needs to be a player like Tyson Chandler, ideally with a shot from outside as well.

In today's league, OQuinn has more value than Kanter next to KP.
I would keep OQuinn at 8M a year and let Kanter walk or deal him for a future asset or draft pick.

The players we need around KP and Frank must be able to knock down shots from outside the paint and also be able to roll or cut to the basket. I actually believe OQuinn is more of a complement player than Kanter.

CrushAlot wrote:Awesome. Great win.

O'Quinn and even Noah are better complements to what Porzingis does. I'd be super interested in what the team would look like if they played O'Quinn and Noah with KP and then Kanter with Thomas/Beasley at the 4. The offense this year has been holding us back a bit from really getting into being a playoff lock. If we can just become a bit quicker, less predictable on offense, I think we can be a very good team right now.

Paris907 wrote:I think Briggs makes a good point. Brogden is a solid guard, young, tenacious and has upside. As stated above, Kanter is at his NBA peak but represents a static 5 without Solíd defense or the ability to stretch a defense. Our backcourt has been hammered recently. Tim is best suited as a flex 3. If Milwaukee is a taker, we should grab Brogden and draft a athletic 5.

Brogdan and Enes are both 25. I don't see the upside argument. We already have shooting guards and Brogdan isn't really full-time one. Again, He's like a younger version of Courtney Lee, which is fine, but not the biggest need. Now, Jabari Parker would be a step in the right direction....