blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bad sports dad. Bad stage dad.
Dude is putting his family life on TV, he is all out there and we can judge him. Pull his kid out of high school, bad move. Pull his kid out of college. Bad move. Let them be kids, let the earn their way.
Reality show all out there for us to view. Sorry, he is doing this. Not the Media.

So I haven't followed lavar like most here. I just have a soft spot when someone is quick to call anybody a bad dad......unless there was signs of abuse.

Listening to undisputed on lavar....i agree with everything they said about lavar. One thing I didn't hear any of them say is Lavar is a bad dad.

The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

This is bigger than basketball.....and for lavar to be successful....he feeds on this type of energy....like this thread and his millions of followers. The more hate Lavar receives about being a bad dad.....the more success him and the ball family will continue to have.

If this bigger vision of Lavar is true.....I don't see how anybody can call him bad.....Strang....weird....different....annoying yes. Bad No!

I guess I don't understand how abuse is now the standard for bad parenting? The kid did shoplifting in China - it shows lack of basic honesty and even the most simple value system. That's on his parents- no excuses.

meloshouldgo wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bad sports dad. Bad stage dad.
Dude is putting his family life on TV, he is all out there and we can judge him. Pull his kid out of high school, bad move. Pull his kid out of college. Bad move. Let them be kids, let the earn their way.
Reality show all out there for us to view. Sorry, he is doing this. Not the Media.

So I haven't followed lavar like most here. I just have a soft spot when someone is quick to call anybody a bad dad......unless there was signs of abuse.

Listening to undisputed on lavar....i agree with everything they said about lavar. One thing I didn't hear any of them say is Lavar is a bad dad.

The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

This is bigger than basketball.....and for lavar to be successful....he feeds on this type of energy....like this thread and his millions of followers. The more hate Lavar receives about being a bad dad.....the more success him and the ball family will continue to have.

If this bigger vision of Lavar is true.....I don't see how anybody can call him bad.....Strang....weird....different....annoying yes. Bad No!

I guess I don't understand how abuse is now the standard for bad parenting? The kid did shoplifting in China - it shows lack of basic honesty and even the most simple value system. That's on his parents- no excuses.

what makes someone a good dad is acting in your kid's best interests. putting them first. non of this **** is in his kid's best interests. all of lavar's antics are for LAVAR'S brand, LAVAR'S show... his middle son is an absolute scrub, yet he yanked him from UCLA? the reason is is because it enriches LAVAR. his middle son would be best off staying at UCLA for four years and getting himself a decent job after maybe trying to play pro ball. the eldest and youngest look the part. the middle one is the sacrificial lamb to enrich LAVAR

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

1) We kinda know his motivation. He chose his wife (in part) with the anticipation that as a former high level basketball player they would produce basketball playing offspring. This is directly from him.

2) How are we defining success regarding LaVar building his brand? We all know about his "Big Baller Brand" but is anybody actually buying his product? Is anybody else in the league wearing his brand? Have you seen one person in your daily life wearing their product? So when you claim LaVar is "very successful" so far, based on what?

It's early....But his price point is so high, I only see the rich or wealthy wearing his brand. But if he's smart, he could turn this into an enterprise.....but using another athlete outside of the ball family to market his brand. The success part comes in when you have a huge following. Thats how businesses begin to flurish, you need people to follow. It's a people business....And right now, Lavar Ball is entertaining......Regardless if you like him or not.

meloshouldgo wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bad sports dad. Bad stage dad.
Dude is putting his family life on TV, he is all out there and we can judge him. Pull his kid out of high school, bad move. Pull his kid out of college. Bad move. Let them be kids, let the earn their way.
Reality show all out there for us to view. Sorry, he is doing this. Not the Media.

So I haven't followed lavar like most here. I just have a soft spot when someone is quick to call anybody a bad dad......unless there was signs of abuse.

Listening to undisputed on lavar....i agree with everything they said about lavar. One thing I didn't hear any of them say is Lavar is a bad dad.

The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

This is bigger than basketball.....and for lavar to be successful....he feeds on this type of energy....like this thread and his millions of followers. The more hate Lavar receives about being a bad dad.....the more success him and the ball family will continue to have.

If this bigger vision of Lavar is true.....I don't see how anybody can call him bad.....Strang....weird....different....annoying yes. Bad No!

I guess I don't understand how abuse is now the standard for bad parenting? The kid did shoplifting in China - it shows lack of basic honesty and even the most simple value system. That's on his parents- no excuses.

I did way worse than steal some glasses. And my parents are the best parents I could've had. Got a street name after my mom in queens. Dad worked for the subway system for 30 years....hard worker. I would never say my parents were bad. Shoplifting doesn't deserve the death penalty. And doesn't reflect bad parenting.

blkexec wrote:

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

1) We kinda know his motivation. He chose his wife (in part) with the anticipation that as a former high level basketball player they would produce basketball playing offspring. This is directly from him.

2) How are we defining success regarding LaVar building his brand? We all know about his "Big Baller Brand" but is anybody actually buying his product? Is anybody else in the league wearing his brand? Have you seen one person in your daily life wearing their product? So when you claim LaVar is "very successful" so far, based on what?

It's early....But his price point is so high, I only see the rich or wealthy wearing his brand. But if he's smart, he could turn this into an enterprise.....but using another athlete outside of the ball family to market his brand. The success part comes in when you have a huge following. Thats how businesses begin to flurish, you need people to follow. It's a people business....And right now, Lavar Ball is entertaining......Regardless if you like him or not.

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

1) We kinda know his motivation. He chose his wife (in part) with the anticipation that as a former high level basketball player they would produce basketball playing offspring. This is directly from him.

2) How are we defining success regarding LaVar building his brand? We all know about his "Big Baller Brand" but is anybody actually buying his product? Is anybody else in the league wearing his brand? Have you seen one person in your daily life wearing their product? So when you claim LaVar is "very successful" so far, based on what?

It's early....But his price point is so high, I only see the rich or wealthy wearing his brand. But if he's smart, he could turn this into an enterprise.....but using another athlete outside of the ball family to market his brand. The success part comes in when you have a huge following. Thats how businesses begin to flurish, you need people to follow. It's a people business....And right now, Lavar Ball is entertaining......Regardless if you like him or not.

Big time athletes don't wear sneakers for free. They don't have the money to pay a big time athlete more than Nike to wear their brand. So how are they going to get another athlete to use their product?

Give them a cut of the company.

Prior to game time, however, Lonzo showed up to the arena wearing a somewhat suspect hoodie mocking legendary NY rapper Nas. The top featured a photoshopped image of Lonzo’s face replacing Nas’ from the infamous Illmatic album cover.

Did the Cleveland Cavaliers troll Lonzo Ball with their pregame music on Thursday night?

When the Cavs and Los Angeles Lakers were warming up before Thursday night’s game in Cleveland, rapper Nas’ “New York State of Mind” was heard playing

Maybe playing Nas was just a coincidence because, after all, Nas makes great music and who doesn’t want to hear it? But if the song was played intentionally to troll Lonzo, it wouldn’t be the first time a sports DJ did just that.

Welpee wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Welpee wrote:

blkexec wrote:The main question is not good or bad.....but is it about Lavar or his kids. And we don't know his motivation. what i do know is Lavar is a side show self marketing dad.....Whos showing the world one way to build your brand. So far Lavar is very successful. Eventually....if Lavar keeps this up....The Ball brand will be a business that his boys can retire on.

1) We kinda know his motivation. He chose his wife (in part) with the anticipation that as a former high level basketball player they would produce basketball playing offspring. This is directly from him.

2) How are we defining success regarding LaVar building his brand? We all know about his "Big Baller Brand" but is anybody actually buying his product? Is anybody else in the league wearing his brand? Have you seen one person in your daily life wearing their product? So when you claim LaVar is "very successful" so far, based on what?

It's early....But his price point is so high, I only see the rich or wealthy wearing his brand. But if he's smart, he could turn this into an enterprise.....but using another athlete outside of the ball family to market his brand. The success part comes in when you have a huge following. Thats how businesses begin to flurish, you need people to follow. It's a people business....And right now, Lavar Ball is entertaining......Regardless if you like him or not.

Big time athletes don't wear sneakers for free. They don't have the money to pay a big time athlete more than Nike to wear their brand. So how are they going to get another athlete to use their product?

Give them a cut of the company.

lol...how much is 10% of the XFL worth right now?

Lonzo is rolling the dice on his pops because he really has no choice. What big time athlete without the last name "Ball" is going to voluntarily gamble millions on LaVar Ball? Not happening!

You asked a question. I gave an answer. Nalod not staying thats how it happens. Thats how you pay someone.
How funny would sit be if people started shoplifting BBB apparel and foot ware?

Charlamagne on Lavar Ball...

Nalod wrote:Host seems to justify Lavar largely in part because he is trying to build his own brand vs. taking endorsement deals and then goes “house vs. field”. I seem to recall the big money was not their from the sneaker companies to his liking. Jordan started with a nice deal and then transformed NIKE and then eventually had an equity stake in the brand and made huge money. Proven talent and proven marketing demand is a big draw. The radio host has made this a Lavar vs. big white corp. companies.
Let’s not forget DRose gets 14mil for 13 years because he was the youngest MVP ever. BIg huge money for a guy who did not “sell out’, he got the money because he proved himself. Harden has a 20 mil a year deal and Durant 30 all over ten years. Rose got hurt, still gets paid. These guys got the big money after they developed the demand. Lavar got no love so he made it about doing his own Thing. thats cool, but he keeps harping on and on about this conflict between what he felt they were worth and dissed by the sneaker companies. This is about Lavar making a company off his kids and doing that it takes to make that happen. Is that a bad thing? Only when compromise is made for the general well being. Lots of kids play go off and play with Jr teams in Europe. KP left home at 16. But they do get some schooling and controlled environment. They are going for themselvee and there game. Did Lavar pull LiAngelo because his kid is not a star and that hurts BBB launch? Pull Melo out of high school because its not enough hype? He doing this for the kids welfare or BBB???
Do we think Lavar is making decisions based on market forces vs. what’s best for his kids? Why do I care? It’s really not a big deal is it? Why do we care about any of this either way?

BTW, there are cases when % was taken over money. David Wright instead of cash took a .5% stake in Vitamin Water and got paid lump sum $20,000,000!!! TEN YEARS AGO!!! 50 Cent also cashed in big. Movie production deals often have % offered vs. Cash. If the talent is there the money usually will follow. Lavar does all the talking. Not his kids. The basketball talent needs to speak for itself. That takes a bit of time.

First bold question.....Is it about Lavar or his kids?.....My answer is yes and yes.

Second bold question.....Why do we care?......I have no idea why Nolads care about another mans money or family relations, when there's no evidence of Lavar abusing his kids.