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12/8/2017  3:37 PM
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Nalod wrote:There are over 400 nba players. Some don't have active fathers in their lives. Might be an uncle, grandfather, coach, etc. How many are more famous then their kids? He is loud and brash that gets him noticed and creates his brand. How was pulling kids off the court serving his kids? Or serving his ego?
Good dad's think of the over all health of their kids. Mental health included.
My kid at one time was top 100-150 ice hockey players in the country at age 13. I have seen a lot of bad dads (we talking about sports ONLY!!!) in my day and Lavar is not a terrible person but there is an unhealthy aspect to what he is doing. Its self serving and it appears to put himself infront of the health of his two younger sons.
He is trying to mold his kids. The kids are in a vacuum. Do all three really want this? Are they really that good? Archie Manning created his own little factory and he seemed to do just fine being in the background compared to Lavar. Cooper Manning suffered an injury and could not go forward. Did he get an education and adapt to have a full and happy life? That would be my concern. Payton in college had his "Dumb Jock" moment sticking his junk in the face of a female trainer. It hurt him. What we don't see is repeatable pattern of him. I hope LiAngelo is able to move forward. Its not about the nature of the crime as shop lifting as he did is not violent. But its a clear violation or respect for the laws, his team, UCLA and his family. Breaking rules is not always about the nature of the violation.
I never permitted my son's hockey talent to be reason for dismissal of his responsibilities.
Now Im not suggesting Lavar let his kid sit in jail, but I don't like his attitude that somehow this was no big deal. There were coaches, lawyers, diplomats that all had to intervene!!!! UCLA made commitments to the Ball family and he just bolted on them as well.
So lets say "Bad Sports Dad".......
Curious who takes his two sons now. They are taking on kids to play with men and the Lavar circus. Culturally this won't be easy nor would playing with men who might enjoy beating the snot out of them.

shut up. you are definitely being very judgy about his parenting.

his sports parenting. Im judging him? you bet. Not questioning his love, intent, or welfare.

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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12/8/2017  3:57 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:There are over 400 nba players. Some don't have active fathers in their lives. Might be an uncle, grandfather, coach, etc. How many are more famous then their kids? He is loud and brash that gets him noticed and creates his brand. How was pulling kids off the court serving his kids? Or serving his ego?
Good dad's think of the over all health of their kids. Mental health included.
My kid at one time was top 100-150 ice hockey players in the country at age 13. I have seen a lot of bad dads (we talking about sports ONLY!!!) in my day and Lavar is not a terrible person but there is an unhealthy aspect to what he is doing. Its self serving and it appears to put himself infront of the health of his two younger sons.
He is trying to mold his kids. The kids are in a vacuum. Do all three really want this? Are they really that good? Archie Manning created his own little factory and he seemed to do just fine being in the background compared to Lavar. Cooper Manning suffered an injury and could not go forward. Did he get an education and adapt to have a full and happy life? That would be my concern. Payton in college had his "Dumb Jock" moment sticking his junk in the face of a female trainer. It hurt him. What we don't see is repeatable pattern of him. I hope LiAngelo is able to move forward. Its not about the nature of the crime as shop lifting as he did is not violent. But its a clear violation or respect for the laws, his team, UCLA and his family. Breaking rules is not always about the nature of the violation.
I never permitted my son's hockey talent to be reason for dismissal of his responsibilities.
Now Im not suggesting Lavar let his kid sit in jail, but I don't like his attitude that somehow this was no big deal. There were coaches, lawyers, diplomats that all had to intervene!!!! UCLA made commitments to the Ball family and he just bolted on them as well.
So lets say "Bad Sports Dad".......
Curious who takes his two sons now. They are taking on kids to play with men and the Lavar circus. Culturally this won't be easy nor would playing with men who might enjoy beating the snot out of them.

shut up. you are definitely being very judgy about his parenting.

his sports parenting. Im judging him? you bet. Not questioning his love, intent, or welfare.

Yeah, definitely a distinction between judging how a father guides a kid's career and whether he's a good dad or not. So I hear ya.
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12/8/2017  4:24 PM
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:There are over 400 nba players. Some don't have active fathers in their lives. Might be an uncle, grandfather, coach, etc. How many are more famous then their kids? He is loud and brash that gets him noticed and creates his brand. How was pulling kids off the court serving his kids? Or serving his ego?
Good dad's think of the over all health of their kids. Mental health included.
My kid at one time was top 100-150 ice hockey players in the country at age 13. I have seen a lot of bad dads (we talking about sports ONLY!!!) in my day and Lavar is not a terrible person but there is an unhealthy aspect to what he is doing. Its self serving and it appears to put himself infront of the health of his two younger sons.
He is trying to mold his kids. The kids are in a vacuum. Do all three really want this? Are they really that good? Archie Manning created his own little factory and he seemed to do just fine being in the background compared to Lavar. Cooper Manning suffered an injury and could not go forward. Did he get an education and adapt to have a full and happy life? That would be my concern. Payton in college had his "Dumb Jock" moment sticking his junk in the face of a female trainer. It hurt him. What we don't see is repeatable pattern of him. I hope LiAngelo is able to move forward. Its not about the nature of the crime as shop lifting as he did is not violent. But its a clear violation or respect for the laws, his team, UCLA and his family. Breaking rules is not always about the nature of the violation.
I never permitted my son's hockey talent to be reason for dismissal of his responsibilities.
Now Im not suggesting Lavar let his kid sit in jail, but I don't like his attitude that somehow this was no big deal. There were coaches, lawyers, diplomats that all had to intervene!!!! UCLA made commitments to the Ball family and he just bolted on them as well.
So lets say "Bad Sports Dad".......
Curious who takes his two sons now. They are taking on kids to play with men and the Lavar circus. Culturally this won't be easy nor would playing with men who might enjoy beating the snot out of them.

shut up. you are definitely being very judgy about his parenting.

his sports parenting. Im judging him? you bet. Not questioning his love, intent, or welfare.

Then why would you call him a bad dad? What you are not questioning is what would make someone a good dad in my opinion.
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12/9/2017  11:45 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:There are over 400 nba players. Some don't have active fathers in their lives. Might be an uncle, grandfather, coach, etc. How many are more famous then their kids? He is loud and brash that gets him noticed and creates his brand. How was pulling kids off the court serving his kids? Or serving his ego?
Good dad's think of the over all health of their kids. Mental health included.
My kid at one time was top 100-150 ice hockey players in the country at age 13. I have seen a lot of bad dads (we talking about sports ONLY!!!) in my day and Lavar is not a terrible person but there is an unhealthy aspect to what he is doing. Its self serving and it appears to put himself infront of the health of his two younger sons.
He is trying to mold his kids. The kids are in a vacuum. Do all three really want this? Are they really that good? Archie Manning created his own little factory and he seemed to do just fine being in the background compared to Lavar. Cooper Manning suffered an injury and could not go forward. Did he get an education and adapt to have a full and happy life? That would be my concern. Payton in college had his "Dumb Jock" moment sticking his junk in the face of a female trainer. It hurt him. What we don't see is repeatable pattern of him. I hope LiAngelo is able to move forward. Its not about the nature of the crime as shop lifting as he did is not violent. But its a clear violation or respect for the laws, his team, UCLA and his family. Breaking rules is not always about the nature of the violation.
I never permitted my son's hockey talent to be reason for dismissal of his responsibilities.
Now Im not suggesting Lavar let his kid sit in jail, but I don't like his attitude that somehow this was no big deal. There were coaches, lawyers, diplomats that all had to intervene!!!! UCLA made commitments to the Ball family and he just bolted on them as well.
So lets say "Bad Sports Dad".......
Curious who takes his two sons now. They are taking on kids to play with men and the Lavar circus. Culturally this won't be easy nor would playing with men who might enjoy beating the snot out of them.

shut up. you are definitely being very judgy about his parenting.

his sports parenting. Im judging him? you bet. Not questioning his love, intent, or welfare.

Then why would you call him a bad dad? What you are not questioning is what would make someone a good dad in my opinion.

I corrected to say "Bad sports dad" a while back. Can I have that? You want to argue why I made the title? I backed that down.

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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12/9/2017  2:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2017  2:20 PM
Posted this article in the around the nba thread. David Pick is the Woj of euro hoops.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2747968-this-isnt-entertainment-basketball-do-ball-brothers-have-a-future-overseas.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
'This Isn't Entertainment Basketball': Do Ball Brothers Have a Future Overseas?
DAVID PICK
DECEMBER 07, 2017
TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — Lonzo Ball's agent and Ball family representative, Harrison Gaines, has put out word to international basketball organizations around Europe that Lonzo's highly publicized brothers, LiAngelo Ball, 19, and LaMelo Ball, 16, are looking for destinations to play professionally, but the effort has most credible European general managers rolling their eyes.

Earlier this week, LiAngelo, on an indefinite suspension at UCLA after his recent arrest in China for shoplifting while the Bruins were there to play an exhibition, was taken out of school by his father, LaVar. The goal was to shop his sons to international clubs to prep them for the NBA draft.


No NBA scouts B/R reached, however, felt LiAngelo would garner interest in the league, but the bar is lower abroad. A team may decide to take a chance for the global exposure that comes with being in the LaVar Ball sphere.

But it may not be easy to find a fit. Most European club executives with whom B/R spoke want nothing to do with the Balls, simply because neither son comes with a proven track record. Francesc Solana, general manager of Spanish club MoraBanc Andorra, and a regular at the annual NBA Summer League in Las Vegas, was approached by the Ball family this week but remains skeptical of their intentions and credentials.

"LiAngelo and LaMelo were offered to our team, both kids, looking for a deal in Europe. Money isn't an issue to them, but they have zero experience, so it's difficult to take them seriously," Solana said. "I don't know what to do with the dad, LaVar Ball (laughs). This isn't a good or normal situation; I don't like it, we are not going to sign them."

Indeed, the promotional skills LaVar has used in making the family a near-household name in media circles may be a detriment to securing the two youngest Ball brothers a spot with a team overseas.

"I think all the loud noise LaVar Ball makes is fake. It's to promote his Big Baller Brand and sell merchandise," said Nicola Alberani, GM for Scandone Avellino, currently the No. 2 seed in Italy's top division. "That works in the U.S., it doesn't work overseas."


Some basketball executives in Europe are wary of the attention LaVar Ball brings with his sons and their careers. Allen Berezovsky/Getty Images

Most well-respected European coaches, general managers and NBA scouts have never seen LiAngelo or LaMelo play. The majority of GMs B/R spoke with believe if the brothers do sign professionally abroad, it won't be for basketball reasons. A lower-division club, perhaps, but nobody thinks a high-profile team is realistic.

"I don't see LiAngelo or LaMelo playing on a real competitive team that wants to win," Alberani said. "In Europe, we have to win; this isn't entertainment basketball."

Some sources told B/R they didn't believe Europe would be an ideal destination for LiAngelo Ball, anyway, if the NBA truly is the eventual goal. Errick McCollum, the older brother of Portland Trail Blazers star C.J. McCollum and a former EuroCup MVP, views the politics of European coaching as a major hurdle for what the Balls are selling.

"Best player development teams would be in the U.S., because in Europe there is so much pressure on coaches to win," McCollum said. "They don't have time to risk trying to develop a young player like LiAngelo. They must win now or their job is in jeopardy."

Multiple people familiar with the international basketball marketplace believe China won't be an option for the Ball brothers either due to LiAngelo's recent legal trouble, not to mention the talent gap between him and your average Chinese Basketball Association player. Currently, former NBA players Willie Warren, Jeremy Pargo and Lavoy Allen serve in reserve roles in the CBA.

Finding a basketball home in Europe may be easier politically, but not practically.


Alberani believes the Balls may be underestimating the complexities of putting a team together in European professional basketball. Most clubs overseas have a limit on issuing visas and signing imports and thus reserve those spots for players who can help them compete now.

"Before I even sell a ticket to see LiAngelo and LaMelo, I need to pay the federation €27,000 to register them for the league," Alberani said. "It costs €13,500 per American in the Serie A League; €11,000 in the Serie A2 minors; and €9,000 in the Serie B. Teams pay the full amount even if he plays just one game and leaves. We only have eight visas for the season, so it's impossible for any team to waste that on the Ball kids."


LiAngelo Ball's lack of experience beyond high school concerns European teams whose primary focus is on winning, not player development. Josh Lefkowitz/Getty Images
One NBA scout interviewed believes all the shade being thrown LiAngelo Ball's way is premature. "He's not awful," said the scout. "Everyone will pile on him right now. But his body has gotten better, though still not where it needs to be. He can make jump shots coming from that offense in high school. There's a league for almost everyone internationally. It just may not be very desirable."

It's not unprecedented for American teenagers to play professionally in Europe. Brandon Jennings played in Rome in 2008. His team cashed out with an NBA buyout because he was a lottery pick. Of course, LiAngelo Ball likely isn't commanding any NBA attention yet, so there isn't much of a financial incentive for a team to sign him.


Beyond the brothers' skills, many European GMs wonder how LaVar Ball's antics will play in Europe vs. the U.S. "The question is why would anyone want to put themselves in a situation with LaVar Ball? The Balls have no idea what Lithuania, Croatia or Italy really is," said one top GM from Germany. "The best response is to avoid the situation. The European culture here is completely different from what they know in the U.S."

Romeo Travis, a European journeyman and former high school teammate of LeBron James at St. Vincent-St. Mary's in Akron, Ohio, thinks they should try to keep LiAngelo in college. But if they insist on him playing abroad, the Balls should go to a country "where they expect the Americans to shoot early and often, so he can get a better feel for the game."

"Europe is a cutthroat business. Managers and GMs don't like messy people.

"I think the smaller domestic leagues are best for player development that rely heavily on production for the foreigners," Travis said. "It's in his best interest to play so he can find out where there is leaks in his game."

Deon Thompson, a former collegiate star with the 2009 NCAA champion North Carolina Tar Heels, has won championships in Germany, Israel, Serbia and the Adriatic League, also doesn't believe Europe is the best place for the Ball family.

"I think it'll be hard. There aren't a lot of high school kids that can come over and adapt to the European game," Thompson said. "LiAngelo will need the right situation in Europe where he has the ball in his hands a lot, and there aren't many situations like that."


Alternatively, LiAngelo could test his skills in the NBA's G-League, but hurdles remain. Competition for G-league roster spots has become stiffer in recent years. More first-round picks are spending time there, and dozens of G-League starters have NBA experience.

Ball, who likely wasn't going to have a significant role in college, and who scouts never considered a prospect for the draft, would be a longshot. He's a power forward known for shooting, but he's also 6'5" and a below-the-rim athlete who shot 32 percent from three in high school, per Krossover (h/t ESPN's Jonathan Givony).

So where does this leave the Ball brothers? With few realistic options at hand, LaVar may have to speak them into existence.

Jonathan Wasserman contributed to this story.

David Pick is a veteran pro basketball reporter covering overseas hoops and American players abroad since 2010. His work can also be found at Basketball Insiders. Follow him on Twitter at @IAmDPick.

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12/9/2017  5:05 PM
Lavar talks up more than reality. Lonzo is the real deal, but I don't see anything that will transform the game as we know it.
AAU, he pulled this kids off the court and made a spectacle of himself.
High school, he pulls his kid out to home school. How will it effects his intellectual side? Social development? More to life than just BBB?
Pulls his kid out of college. How is that helping his studies? Reading? Social development?
Its an act that speaks that his kids are above it all. They are not.
Now he wants to take them over seas which will garner attention but is the substance really going to be there? Play in the Philippines league? British league? Iran? Is that going to prepare them for the draft? Bad? Ok, maybe lets say is this smart?
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12/9/2017  5:18 PM
Both Givony and Pick are saying there aren't any leagues in europe that the Ball boys could play in. Givony suggested playing in Japan.
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12/12/2017  9:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2017  9:38 AM
Big Baller Brand sons signed to play in Lithuania. Team in financial distress. Town of 10,000. UCLA enrollment is alone 44,000 studants.
They gym they play in has capacity of 1,700.
One son neutered by his dad and the other is now a high school drop out.
Isn't mom wheel chair bound and Ill? I assume Lavar is going to stay with the boys there?
BIG BALLER BRAND!!!! I hope he knows what he is doing. I hope Lonzo has his own money.

https://deadspin.com/ball-brothers-sign-with-tiny-lithuanian-club-1821200144

Knicks1248: 1. Dolan should be more involved! 2. Why would any knick fan want pick 8, when that spot has a history of producing marginal NBA taken. (He prefers pick 9th instead)
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12/12/2017  10:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2017  10:41 AM
Nalod wrote:Big Baller Brand sons signed to play in Lithuania. Team in financial distress. Town of 10,000. UCLA enrollment is alone 44,000 studants.
They gym they play in has capacity of 1,700.
One son neutered by his dad and the other is now a high school drop out.
Isn't mom wheel chair bound and Ill? I assume Lavar is going to stay with the boys there?
BIG BALLER BRAND!!!! I hope he knows what he is doing. I hope Lonzo has his own money.

https://deadspin.com/ball-brothers-sign-with-tiny-lithuanian-club-1821200144

I think that's a bit dramatic. Its a family with money - they are going to be OK at worst. The one in the NBA is going to make millions over next 15 years and a ton of it is going to go to his family I'm sure. Better than going to a bunch of your boys / strippers / etc. IMO.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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12/12/2017  12:00 PM
simrud wrote:
Nalod wrote:Big Baller Brand sons signed to play in Lithuania. Team in financial distress. Town of 10,000. UCLA enrollment is alone 44,000 studants.
They gym they play in has capacity of 1,700.
One son neutered by his dad and the other is now a high school drop out.
Isn't mom wheel chair bound and Ill? I assume Lavar is going to stay with the boys there?
BIG BALLER BRAND!!!! I hope he knows what he is doing. I hope Lonzo has his own money.

https://deadspin.com/ball-brothers-sign-with-tiny-lithuanian-club-1821200144

I think that's a bit dramatic. Its a family with money - they are going to be OK at worst. The one in the NBA is going to make millions over next 15 years and a ton of it is going to go to his family I'm sure. Better than going to a bunch of your boys / strippers / etc. IMO.

That's not dramatic?

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12/12/2017  12:05 PM
I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.
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12/12/2017  12:09 PM
EnySpree wrote:I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.

I wish my dad pulled me out of high school to play basketball!

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12/12/2017  12:18 PM
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EnySpree wrote:I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.

I wish my dad pulled me out of high school to play basketball!

And be home schooled? Fuck yeah... if i had Melo Balls talent that would gave been a great move for me

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12/12/2017  1:39 PM
Nalod wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.

I wish my dad pulled me out of high school to play basketball!

...and get paid for it!!!...and it wouldn't hurt if my dad taught me to be an entrepreneur and own my own sneaker before i turn 21...And, be a part of a reality show that gets over 3 million views and i get paid off of it...And raise me or my big brother to be the #2 pick in the NBA!!! Yeah, some bad dad

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Nalod wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.

I wish my dad pulled me out of high school to play basketball!

...and get paid for it!!!...and it wouldn't hurt if my dad taught me to be an entrepreneur and own my own sneaker before i turn 21...And, be a part of a reality show that gets over 3 million views and i get paid off of it...And raise me or my big brother to be the #2 pick in the NBA!!! Yeah, some bad dad

Not talking about Lonzo! Talking about the two younger.
3million views does not translate to money unless your selling ads. Production has to be paid.
Fame and fortune doe not make for happy people. Lets see how these kids turn out.
But I stand by words. Lonzo finished high school and did a year at school. Lets see how the other two pan out.
Im hoping they do ok, but overbearing enabling dad is not aways a good thing!

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12/12/2017  3:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2017  3:42 PM
Uptown wrote:
Nalod wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I wish my dad put it in my head that playing oversees was even an option. I would have taken sports more serous.

I wish my dad pulled me out of high school to play basketball!

...and get paid for it!!!...and it wouldn't hurt if my dad taught me to be an entrepreneur and own my own sneaker before i turn 21...And, be a part of a reality show that gets over 3 million views and i get paid off of it...And raise me or my big brother to be the #2 pick in the NBA!!! Yeah, some bad dad

BTW, the sneaker is being funded by Lavar. Do they have their own sneaker or is it Lavars? not the same is it. They don't have the economy of scale as other footware companies. No doubt, I embrace they are doing it themselves but is it making money? Also they are barley getting paid to play in Lithuania.
Might make the show actually watchable as they play infront of hundreds of blond haired fans and Lavar goes nuts why they get brutalized by hairy racist opponents!
Yeah, bad dad! had his family all in LA, in school at home with mom. Now they are in Lithuania. His kid messed up in China, so pull him out of school. Other was too good for highschool?. Lavar was doing ok until this season.

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12/13/2017  9:16 AM
So for most, Money = good parenting. Millions of views = good parenting. Enablement = good parenting. Living vicariously through your kids = excellent parenting. Check.

And there are other threads belaboring the point about how effed up this country is.

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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12/13/2017  9:23 AM
Family reality show denied in MSG cited for not having the resources internally to handle their request. ESPN had a national broadcast. Not sure the money behind an internet only reality show and if its viable but BBB cost for 4 courtside tickets, hotel, flights had to run $30,000 for the night. I suppose if they could have filmed it would have been worth it.
Glad to see Lonzo do well and not cost us the game. I like that he tunes it out.
Reported Magic and Pelinka sat Lavar down and asked he tone down being critical about the coach. In Lavar fashion he turns it into a positive. Nothing seemingly bothers him. He never admits he is wrong or backs down. At worst he blames it on his love for kids.
Lonzo is OK and will be ok.

Last nite He won the 3rd quarter but frank won the all important 4th!

a fathers bliss, billboard for BBB and, self gratification all wrapped in one!
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3694731.1513136710!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/isolaweb13s-web.jpg

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12/13/2017  10:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2017  10:28 AM
Life is a pursuit of happiness.
I see one happy farther here...
Not really happy sons.
Money and fame are strong drugs but they drain people faster that heroin.
One need strong support system to save his soul and at the end of the day his life.
Some people can be bend out of shape a lot but most will break.
So far this does not looking promising but we will find out soon enough.
He can teach them to meditate... but no one can control even his own mind...
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12/13/2017  10:34 AM
I don't understand why you're walking back your comments. He is a bad dad. He's making this more about him than his kids. His middle son is a scrub and would have been playing at UCLA after Christmas break. I know Lavar wants to live vicariously through his sons, but can someone please tell me how his bpy is better off losing his eligibility and UCLA degree to play for a coach who doesn't speak English? and for a team that reportedly won't pay its players next year? That situation sounds lousy. And how does that situation help his youngest? He's 16 years old and going to a town of 10,000 where he's going to be completely isolated.

Lavar is no better Lindsay Lohan's mom... Lavar makes the Kardashians look stable

GustavBahler said: Check please....
Lavar is a bad dad....

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