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Bretrobert1
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12/14/2017 1:26 AM
Briggs,
I've watched Isaac Haas play close to 100 games over the last 4 years. Purdue has became somewhat of a Big Man U with the likes of Carl Landry, Jajuan Johnson, AJ Hammons, Biggie Swanigan and now Haas. Compare him to Brook Lopez all you want, but he isn't nearly as polished and lacks NBA movement/athleticism. I agree, he has a freak body, has nice touch, and this year has developed a nice little left handed bank; but again, he lacks natural mobility and athleticim on both ends of the court. Against better college bigs, several times a game he'll get the ball inside for a flush and either get ripped of the ball or just not convert on what should be and-1 type opportunities. He just lacks quick-step explosiveness, which deters his defense as well. Actually, Purdue has a 7'3" freshman from the Netherlands, Matt Haarms, that is probably a bigger NBA prospect (down the road) than Haas. Just look at their blocks per game for reference.. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Haas, and appreciate his contribution to the Boilermakers, but at the same time, I'm also a realist. Now Jalen Brunson, OTOH. That's a player I like at the next level, in a value type of way. Big time recruit coming out of high school and has had a nice career at Nova. Kinda has the Josh Hart effect going on, in that he is a highly regarded college player who's game might not convert to the League as well for whatever reason. However, if I'm a GM I"d give a guy like that a chance. BTW, I'm a huge fan of Josh Hart, as well.
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BRIGGS
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12/14/2017 2:36 AM
Bretrobert1 wrote:Briggs, Heres a few points youre selling short Look at the post move at 1:24--thats NBA. RIP Crushalot😞
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Bretrobert1
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12/14/2017 10:04 AM
"Heres a few points youre selling short
First off he can shoot--hes 7-2 295 and hes got good hands and touch. In the NBA he can expand that to the mid range and maybe even beyond--but I think hes a guy who has some goods you cant teach. Hes not in the "big" era anymore--but hell be somewhere in the NBA for a long time. Even today you can teach that size--and than that size has some skill! Look at the post move at 1:24--thats NBA." Briggs, I honestly don't think I'm selling Haas short at all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all trying to rip him in any way, as I think he's an incredible asset to Purdue; but when it comes to playing in the NBA, that's going to be a real severe slope to climb for him. As to your points above, he's got decent hands--but like I mentioned before, he gets ripped a lot in the post. Yes, he has nice touch and is a good FT shooter, but he absolutely won't develop an NBA type mid-range game or beyond. He doesn't have that type of fluidity. If you looked at his shot chart, 95% of his shots are within 5 feet for a reason. He's not the type of player that can get off his own shot or score off of quick screens and pops. Where he excels in Purdue's motion offense, is when Purdue is moving well on the perimeter and he gets quick dumps into the post and utilizes a nice spin to the basket. This year, he's developed a nice little left handed bank off that spin. Purdue has one of the smartest, best passing guards in the country in Dakota Mathias, who brings the best out of Haas. Again, that's another nice highlight video you attached-against one of the worst teams in college hoops last season. Biggie Swanigan basically had a 20/20 game in the first half alone that same game. I, too, enjoy looking into quality, under-looked college players that can potentially make the leap to the NBA. And actually, I tried posting on here a few times the last couple years on threads like these, but I just found out the other day that you needed to email the moderator to open up the ability to post. One of the players I tried posting info about during his Sr season was actually Ron Baker. Who else you got? I follow all college ball, but am most in tune w/ the Big 10.
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BRIGGS
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12/14/2017 11:23 AM
Bretrobert1 wrote:"Heres a few points youre selling short late 2nd to udrafted Kenrich Williams F maybe even some 2guard 3-4-2 3 and D good size 6-8 215 #34 RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
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12/14/2017 12:28 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Bretrobert1 wrote:"Heres a few points youre selling short Same team Desmond Bane SG 6-4 215 TCU is a good team very under rated. RIP Crushalot😞
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newyorknewyork
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12/14/2017 12:50 PM
Good find. They really jump out on tape
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Bretrobert1
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12/14/2017 1:38 PM
Haven't seen enough of TCU this year to comment meaningfully on Williams. But I saw he's already 23. Nice length and nice shot. Doesn't look crazy athletic or physical, though.
I am familiar with Desmond Bane. Went to a small Indiana high school and put up monster stats, but flew under the radar from a recruiting standpoint. Purdue was sniffing him a bit late into his recruitment, and some good basketball minds on the Purdue boards were hoping he'd be offered-but he wasn't. I don't think he'll be declaring anytime soon, if I had to guess. Have you seen Xavier play much? Really like Bluiett and Macura's games. Macura, especially, if he gets in the right system, could be a nice pick-up for someone in the mid to late 2nd round.
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Bretrobert1
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12/16/2017 12:02 PM
A couple games to watch today: Purdue/Butler coming up here at 11 central. Purdue has some interesting potential second rounders in Haas, Edwards and a future potential draft pick in Carsen Edwards. Also, keep an eye out on their 7'3" big man Matt Haarms. Very interesting post player with a really nice motor.
Then Oklahoma at Wichita State at 3 pm. Shamet on Young.
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BRIGGS
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12/16/2017 4:48 PM
Bretrobert1 wrote:A couple games to watch today: Purdue/Butler coming up here at 11 central. Purdue has some interesting potential second rounders in Haas, Edwards and a future potential draft pick in Carsen Edwards. Also, keep an eye out on their 7'3" big man Matt Haarms. Very interesting post player with a really nice motor. You still think shamet is anything close to young? Young is a top 3 pock RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
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12/16/2017 4:54 PM
TripleThreat wrote:Paris907 wrote:Always looking to penetrate and take it to the hole..... Yeah TT another good one-- young a udfa
RIP Crushalot😞
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