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This guy was Daymean Dotson's PG partner on Houston Rob Gray
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TripleThreat
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12/2/2017  10:39 PM
reub wrote:
blkexec wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
Nalod wrote:WE giving up on Frank already?
Briggs early season YouTube player porn.

I don't think he's saying that. Frank's got some uniqueness to his game with his size and defense but he's got a ton of work to do in other areas. Even defensively, he needs work (I like that he gets his hands on some balls but he has trouble keeping guys in front of him). Real hard for me to look at Frank and say we drafted our lead guard for the next 15 years. I like Frank, think he'll be useful, but I think we need to find another PG that contrasts/complements what he brings to the table.

Right now Frank isn't showing the ability to become a lead guard. But I can see him as a solid championship piece to add......off the bench.......until he proves otherwise.

Just because he was a high pick.....doesnt mean he will become an NBA starter. But I'm still glad we picked him......We are on the right track.. Adding 2 way players.


That's just nonsense. The kid was the youngest player drafted and is doing great for his age and experience level. His defense is already elite. How many 19 year olds can you say that about?


IIRC, blkexec has discussed that he has a heavy affiliation with AAU basketball ( Amateur Athletic Union) I'm not going to sweep this with a broad brush completely, but nothing about what Frank Ntilikina has to offer is going to vibe with someone with the average AAU mindset ( Heavy volume of games, stacked talent teams, emphasis for the players on getting noticed by scouts, team handlers looking for cash kickbacks, "jobs" with either the brands or a college program and just riding athleticism to get as many wins as possible to keep the various shoe brands happy. There is very little emphasis on team play and team defense, I'd wager some teams do, but it would appear to be the exception rather than the rule.

blkexec is right in one way, Ntilikina might not pan out. But he's right for the wrong reason, i.e. almost everything blkexec says comes from a guy who appears to apply AAU methodology onto the actual NBA. It's nowhere near the same. But it requires letting go of one's own ego to get to that point. You can win in the AAU just be feeding the ball to a kid who just overpowers everyone else because he's more athletic or more developed than them. To be totally fair, college ball is just as exploitative as the worst elements in AAU. And lots of kids would not get a college scholarship otherwise, without the AAU. And playing against better competition has it's benefits. But what Ntilikina brings is really not going to sell hard to the typical AAU brand jockey.

There's no money in great footwork. There's no money in fundamental play. You don't get a shoe deal for being a solid glue guy. You get the full bore swag and attention from dunking over a car. From beating the living **** out of your Disney pop star princess girlfriend. From shooting up a nightclub with an Uzi and getting on TMZ. There's also no money in time. AAU is ready now/win now/get now kind of methodology. Actually waiting for Ntilikina to get 2-3 seasons under his belt to see what he might be is just waiting too long for the typical AAU brand jockey.

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12/3/2017  10:02 AM
TripleThreat wrote:
reub wrote:
blkexec wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
Nalod wrote:WE giving up on Frank already?
Briggs early season YouTube player porn.

I don't think he's saying that. Frank's got some uniqueness to his game with his size and defense but he's got a ton of work to do in other areas. Even defensively, he needs work (I like that he gets his hands on some balls but he has trouble keeping guys in front of him). Real hard for me to look at Frank and say we drafted our lead guard for the next 15 years. I like Frank, think he'll be useful, but I think we need to find another PG that contrasts/complements what he brings to the table.

Right now Frank isn't showing the ability to become a lead guard. But I can see him as a solid championship piece to add......off the bench.......until he proves otherwise.

Just because he was a high pick.....doesnt mean he will become an NBA starter. But I'm still glad we picked him......We are on the right track.. Adding 2 way players.


That's just nonsense. The kid was the youngest player drafted and is doing great for his age and experience level. His defense is already elite. How many 19 year olds can you say that about?


IIRC, blkexec has discussed that he has a heavy affiliation with AAU basketball ( Amateur Athletic Union) I'm not going to sweep this with a broad brush completely, but nothing about what Frank Ntilikina has to offer is going to vibe with someone with the average AAU mindset ( Heavy volume of games, stacked talent teams, emphasis for the players on getting noticed by scouts, team handlers looking for cash kickbacks, "jobs" with either the brands or a college program and just riding athleticism to get as many wins as possible to keep the various shoe brands happy. There is very little emphasis on team play and team defense, I'd wager some teams do, but it would appear to be the exception rather than the rule.

blkexec is right in one way, Ntilikina might not pan out. But he's right for the wrong reason, i.e. almost everything blkexec says comes from a guy who appears to apply AAU methodology onto the actual NBA. It's nowhere near the same. But it requires letting go of one's own ego to get to that point. You can win in the AAU just be feeding the ball to a kid who just overpowers everyone else because he's more athletic or more developed than them. To be totally fair, college ball is just as exploitative as the worst elements in AAU. And lots of kids would not get a college scholarship otherwise, without the AAU. And playing against better competition has it's benefits. But what Ntilikina brings is really not going to sell hard to the typical AAU brand jockey.

There's no money in great footwork. There's no money in fundamental play. You don't get a shoe deal for being a solid glue guy. You get the full bore swag and attention from dunking over a car. From beating the living **** out of your Disney pop star princess girlfriend. From shooting up a nightclub with an Uzi and getting on TMZ. There's also no money in time. AAU is ready now/win now/get now kind of methodology. Actually waiting for Ntilikina to get 2-3 seasons under his belt to see what he might be is just waiting too long for the typical AAU brand jockey.


I going to repost this in the Frank vs. DSjr thread!
A bit crude but very much on point!! Good post!

This guy was Daymean Dotson's PG partner on Houston Rob Gray

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