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Moonangie
Posts: 24733 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
11/29/2017 8:54 AM
TripleThreat wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Whatever anyone wanst to say negative about Okafor--they said worse about Enes Kanter. Okafor has more talent than Kanter--who cost us 17-18mm per. Yes. Great post. Fuck OK4. |
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
11/29/2017 11:27 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Okafor scoring 31 before hitting 20 years old. How many videos could be made of him giving up 31? I like how MeloSG referred to this as speculative trading. If you keep giving up assets for these long-shot wild dreams, you'll quickly find yourself without any draft picks and 99% of the time with players who don't help their teams. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
11/29/2017 11:56 AM LAST EDITED: 11/29/2017 11:56 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Okafor scoring 31 before hitting 20 years old. --------------->How many videos could be made of him giving up 31? Thats exactly what people said about Kanter X 10 2nd rd picks are mostly crp. If you really like someone--you do what GS does every year--spend 3mm. Also when you make trades--you get them back. You like numbers bonn--what would you rather have pick 44 in the 2021 draft or the 3rd pick from the 2015? RIP Crushalot😞
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martin
Posts: 68542 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/29/2017 12:22 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Okafor scoring 31 before hitting 20 years old. Bonn, you were close, he was a +/- of -29. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
11/29/2017 12:29 PM LAST EDITED: 11/29/2017 12:32 PM
martin wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Okafor scoring 31 before hitting 20 years old. On a team that won 10-20 games each year the last 5 years. Its all relative. Whats his =- on the Spurs? And just to go further--look at our present team without Kanter--its gone to hll. Kanter the same guy who was poo poo unmercifully. The player(ok4) has talent that most other Cs do not--thats what Im looking at--hes strong skilled and my bet very humbled right now. RIP Crushalot😞
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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
11/29/2017 12:50 PM
If we can get Ok4 for a second rounder, then its a no brainer. He is a much better prospect than any 2nd rounder or end of the 1st round player we can get...He's young and is extremely skilled in the post. Unfortunately, he got caught up on the process and hasn't gotten a fair chance...
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fishmike
Posts: 53117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/29/2017 1:02 PM
martin wrote:Yea... this is really funny. OK4 was -29 that night. The team lost by 26.Bonn1997 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Okafor scoring 31 before hitting 20 years old. Love to have him on our G league team after he's cut. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37500 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
11/29/2017 1:08 PM
Uptown wrote:If we can get Ok4 for a second rounder, then its a no brainer. He is a much better prospect than any 2nd rounder or end of the 1st round player we can get...He's young and is extremely skilled in the post. Unfortunately, he got caught up on the process and hasn't gotten a fair chance... I'm not as down on OK4 as some, but here are things to consider: 1) He wants to go to a situation where there's playing time. We can't promise him that. Why would he come here to sit the bench when he can do that in Philly. 2) He's a free agent next year, so he can simply leave if he's not happy. We can't make him suck it up like we are with Willy. 3) How much of a no-brainer is it if no other team is doing it? There's a good chance he'll get bought out. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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simrud
Posts: 23392 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Member: #474 USA |
11/29/2017 1:10 PM
Beas averaged 19 one season - so what? Guy is unplayable because he is borderline mentally handicapped.
You can't make it in the NBA if you have a mental disability - I'm not even joking here. How can you expect someone like that to execute pro level schemes? A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
11/29/2017 1:11 PM
Uptown wrote:If we can get Ok4 for a second rounder, then its a no brainer. He is a much better prospect than any 2nd rounder or end of the 1st round player we can get...He's young and is extremely skilled in the post. Unfortunately, he got caught up on the process and hasn't gotten a fair chance... If the Knicks traded for Okafor, Willy would have even less time to make a case for himself in NY. Wouldn't mind Okafor pushing Willy. He needs it. I agree that Philly botched his development. Surprised no one has bitten yet. Still believe the Spurs would be a great destination for OK4. I believe he would really respond in an environment less prone to drama, more structured. That was totally lacking in Philly. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
11/29/2017 1:14 PM
simrud wrote:Beas averaged 19 one season - so what? Guy is unplayable because he is borderline mentally handicapped. WTF are you talking about? The guy went to Duke and was the main cog in a championship as a freshmen? RIP Crushalot😞
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simrud
Posts: 23392 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/13/2003 Member: #474 USA |
11/29/2017 1:17 PM
BRIGGS wrote:simrud wrote:Beas averaged 19 one season - so what? Guy is unplayable because he is borderline mentally handicapped. Yeah that proves it - just like all the football players who can't sign their name after graduating. A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29859 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
11/29/2017 1:18 PM
I mean we would have to trade the 2nd for him. Then we would need to trade away KOQ and Willy to find him mins. Which he will then have to prove that he is a hungry player who will stay in shape and avoid injury. Then prove that he can rebound and defend enough to make a positive impact.
Kanter is Kanter because he is a dominant rebounder, hits his fts, gets buckets at a high per second/possession rate. Doesn't need a high usage rate to do these things. Its not just the 2nd rd pick we are giving up. But within the rest of the year until he becomes a FA. There will need to be a lot of heavy lifting to make it work just to see if he can reach his potential. Then how about Jeff showing him tough love if his defense is poor for a stretch. How does that work for the impending FA? We may just not be in the best position to do this. And odds are out of the ton of big men coming out of the draft this yr or drafts in the future. A mid to late first rounder ends up being better than him in a few years. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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